
M.Dancer
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CNN FOX and others are not even mentioning Ron Paul even though he is polling higher than most other candidates for the GOP.
Of course they are.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/08/16/paul-zings-rivals-in-new-ad/
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/hannity/2011/08/16/could-christie-palin-paul-ryan-still-jump-gop-race
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Last time I checked, Iceland was more north than a good deal of Canada, and yet we have cold water vessels.
Correct. Canada does, most of the world does not. Even Iceland doesn't have a cold water navy.
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What do you mean, rarely seen in western media?
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I agree there, not all the ships need to be, but I would think that a dedicated cold water fleet would be part of the plan, you can't plan to project power globally without the capability of actually going globally.
There isn't really any need for most of the world to project force north of Iceland.
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You tell me?
Okay, no they don't.
Most navies have no need to venture into the north or south poles.
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I might consider it after you explain why we should be so afraid that our BFF's might want to invade us that we should spend billions of dollars on our military to deter or prevent them.
Maybe you would rather explain then who you were referring to:
Speaking of what's the point...anyone else notice that just about anyone capable of invading us is mothballing their fleet right now?
Doh...
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boo hoo for your daddy...Hellyer would ABSOLUTELY have had a clue since he served in WW2 in the Royal Canadian Artillery...apparently he had no silly emotional attachment to the "royal" part of his military life...
Correct. His silly attachments are for UFOs
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I think that kind of thing would be built into any ship any navy builds. Canada is not the only country with these requirements.
Does Italy? France? Japan?....
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No, but the fact that these countries are either flat broke or filled with so many poor people did. By the way, I thought these were our allies, so why on Earth would they want to invade us?
Is it because they're broke and filled with poor people? Hah, now I see where you're going with this but I just can't decide if you're being cynical or paranoid.
Does that mean you are retracting your statement about mothballing fleets?
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Speaking of what's the point...anyone else notice that just about anyone capable of invading us is mothballing their fleet right now?
Doh...
No I haven't noticed anyone mothballing their fleets.
The british are adding 9 new vessels...the US is adding newer Aircraft carriers, destroyers...the Chinese are conducting sea trials on their first aircraft carrier...
Was it in a dream this idea came to you?
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Is it possible that these older decommissioned ships would be more powerful and/or versatile than what we have now?
More powerful, perhaps, more versatile, not a chance.
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Who says outdated? The US military has been swimming in cash the last couple of decades. I bet the average age of their frigates and destroyers is a hell of a lot closer to 'new' than old.
They won't be decommissioning the average...they will decommission the oldest.
In the case of destroyers...that 20 years old while the frigates are over 30 years.
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So outdated ships that our allies deem unworthy?
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Obviuosly one must accept consubstantiality or risk being burned at the stake
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Will changing the name actually fix the military or is this just some sort of stupid lip service?
Fix?
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The Conservative government's decision to restore the traditional designations of the Canadian Forces; the Royal Canadian Navy (RCN), Canadian Army and Royal Canadian Air Force (RCAF) is a welcome move that recognizes a reality that has been long ignored by officialdom: The decades-long attempt to erase the historic designations, and unique identities, of the RCN, Canadian Army and RCAF was a failure.
It is about that..period. And not the snide musings of fetishes or what ever puerile thought someone has about the conservatives.
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A Christian not only believes in God....but he also obeys the gospel of God.
So does that mean they were no Betsy approved Christians prior to the 1870?
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American Pie
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You have a funny idea about what constitutes a "wrong".
I believe eroding the espirit de corps was a wrong. So was turning our backs on a very meritorious and proud history
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Wonder if they will ever go back to the old air force ranks.
probably not....flight lieutenant, flight commander...wing commander...leading airman...would confuse the media too much
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You tell me!!!
Again, you tell me oh wise one!!!
Fair enough. No, you don't have a point.
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Well, now that the thread has gotten even more off topic, but in the end you don't need Alex Jones to tell you that. It was history long before Jones ever got on air. Again feel free to deny/debate those points.
Which point?
Quite true! The CIA probably has committed more acts of terrorism abroad as well as at home, than those crazy Muslims many speak of or any other organization on the planet. Remember who helped out Osama's Muhajideen.
Is there a point in that, or is there "probably" a point?
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Years of lobbying by Canadian veterans have convinced the federal government to restore the names of the Royal Canadian Navy and the Royal Canadian Air Force.
If anyone remembers Paul Hellyer, they will remember the man that nearly destroyed the morale of Royal Canadian Air Force, The Canadian Army and Her Majesties Royal Canadian Navy...
He is also the man who created a absurdly large command infrastructure which has hampered the armed forces to this day.
If anyone knows Hellyer today, they know him as the looney tune UFO nut...
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Many of the uprisings in North Africa and the middle east started around the same time, so I am not buying your point here at all.
You might be missing his point...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/interactive/2011/mar/22/middle-east-protest-interactive-timeline
Royal Canadian Navy doesn't need new ships
in Federal Politics in Canada
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That doesn't address China's blue sea ambitions...or the reason why they wish to project the kind of power an aircraft carrier exerts...nor will that comfort India and Pakistan (and Tibet) who have come to arms with China.
Now I suppose for the myopic, the only reason to have a navy is to thwart an invasion...again, that is a moo point