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Eric Davis, a male lawyer is the liberal candidate in Kitchener. A female is the PC candidate, likewise for the NDP. It was a PC riding before the election the polls are pretty close though. Witmer held the riding for a long long long time. (20 years... that is almost Alberta blue)

I didn't say it was you, I just said the silence is explained due to the account being banned for the harper bernardo williams 2 economists joke. for reference purposes only.

yes you are wrong. read the links first then post something that is sane.

banned for the harper bernardo and williams 2 economists joke.

Read the links and come back with meaningful criticism right now all you offer is proof you havn't read the links. You are wrong.

Why is that, they build conventional borers just fine. (this is a simpler technology to deploy aside from regulatory issues) as the entrails don't exist.

Dude you are the one trolling, as I explained Tungsten has amelting point more than twice that of stone, likewise heat is able to be reflected. You are the one that needs to read up on physics. No it has been made there are different designs as I said. What are you doubting? Say it specifically, chances are if you read the links you would not be spouting nonsense. Limestone is unstable and has pockets which makes it a bad substance for a large heavy drilling machine. Read up on the subject before posting back. The harder rocks are better, remember it isn't being cut it is being melted, there is a difference. For drilling it is issues like cleave and hardness, with melting it is the thermal capacity and pressurization. Put a heating element on a block of ice in a subzero room and see what happens, this is the same thing just at higher temperatures. As far as transport, how do you transport anything, this is a stupid question. Don't picture a large nuclear power plant the micro reactors are smaller than a house, the same sort of thing used in nuclear submarines - not the exact same thing, but there are massively small. The energy amount you are looking at is upwards of 7MW that isn't a lot today. Research into this tech over the last 50 years has produced really small models, and the costs for much of it is much less than it was 10 or 20 years ago. These are the commercially available units http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_nuclear_reactor Note this technology has faced governmental setbacks... but it exists and is possible. In Canada a stumbling block could be http://nuclearsafety.gc.ca/eng/ In the US designs are waiting for approval from the Nuclear Regulatory Commission - slated to be complete by 2013 (only 4 months away). Bear in mind it is not that it is not possible it is that civillian access to the technologies is underway, with various finacial backers. Bear in mind having nuclear materials underground ain't nothing government isn't trying to do.. http://www.opg.com/power/nuclear/waste/dgr/index.asp The stuff is being shut down and delayed for governmental reasons but it is moving forward. As soon as the reactors start to become more available the easier the implmentation for civillians streams becomes. Obviously if DUMBS are real... and we know there are some underground bunkers and tunnels if not to the level of DUMBS, any mining operations in the US will need to be closely watched. But tunnels are not new, moving reactors tend to only be used by the military and almost always in naval systems. There are lots of people in high places that don't like the idea of moving reactors being in the hands of civillians even if they are the much less dangerous thorium type. We are talking hundreds of tons, not thousands. Bearin mind even a big shovel loader at the tarsands picks up less than 100 tons of sand in a scoop. The thing can be modularly aseembled on site in a factory bay designed for the purpose. A road train can move these weights. How much can a big truck at athabasca carry? A powertrain operates at only 350kw. 1mw of energy from the reactor would propel the thing with ease. well over 500t of hauling capacity.

The technology is 40 years old.

Why are you calling the US department of Energy and Los Alamos labs a source of garbage? What exactly are you refuting? Although I do think the price would be far less than 150m even at that price tag it would be less than 1 f35. The borer also wouldn't be confined to use on one pipeline but would be reusable with a long service life possible. 1000m is 1km .. As I said once you go beyond 1km in depth there are structural problems due to geological structural issues. For practicality the system should be deep but not too deep. I suggested 100m if that provides for bedrock. The tunnel is just the base however, and the pineline would still be laid, but it would decrease labour costs, and it would actually cost less. The only thing the same is the pipeline itself, and it would be safer, you could actually probably have major cost savings, and it would be more secure, and the above ground resources would be saved. The tunnel could range in size from around 10ft to 40ft. However you likely would want to have room for a vehicle and perhaps set up connecting outlets every so often should there be a problem perhaps at areas where there are already settlements or existing government facilities, etc.. although that would compramize security a bit. Do note the smaller diamater machines would be more expensive, not less expensive. But they would cost less than a conventional driller for say the BC pipeline. The pipeline pricetag would aso be less than the surface pipeline. The question would be is how strong are the US governments patents on the technology if it is not being used commercially? The patents are the only stumbling block, and the only real source of cost inflation, unless it was made by Lockheedmartin. However "For applications filed before June 8, 1995, the term is either 17 years from the issue date or 20 years from the earliest claimed domestic priority date, whichever is longer." Meaning the patents have expired.

What makes it expensive. Micro Nuclear Reactors have come down in price over the last 2 years and are commercially available. If you've followed the links and filled in information gaps you should realize that things like thorium reactors are safer than u235 reactors. The micro reactors have been tossed around to places like alaska and now places in the US. Where is the insanely expensive stuff coming from, there is no basis for it. My gosh 1 f35 would cost a boatload more than this. If you are wondering but what keeps it from just sealing, that would be the back (train) trailing pressure system which keeps the barrier supported and pressurized, while allowing the temperature to lower to a point of stability this system allows the skin contact surfaces to stay hot as it follows behind the knife so as the front part moves ahead the back part inches behind the whole thing like a worm eating its way through soil. here is a really old report http://www.osti.gov/bridge/servlets/purl/4444905-MPTHXW/4444905.pdf Do note the toshiba reactors fullfill and exceed the 10 MW needs stated in this report.

All I can say is look back to the links. If you don't yet know elementary physics learn it. If you didn't know pipelines are already dug through solidstone. Not all pipelines are surface pipelines. You guys just come off as completely out of touch. You just can except that stone can be melted instead of blown up or mechanically drilled, if you read the links it should be obvious that los alamos designed these systems in the 1970's. The harvard link takes the example of the moon, however limestones are harder to work with than solid stones. Please don't comment until you have read the papers linked and understand how they apply to granites. All you need to do to melt through granite is introduce heat in the tune of 1215 - 1260 °C. The melting point of some salts used in nuclear processing is 1400 degrees zirconium metal can hold temperatures well above 2000k while its melting point is 1855 °C the melting point of tungsten, the highest is 3,422 °C, The system is relatively simple, picture a hot knife and butter. I am not suggesting mechanical boring machines be used I am suggesting nuclear fueled boring machines that melt and glassify not mechanically drill alone. You should be able to see that the mlting temprature of a metalic heating element is much higher than the melting temperature of a metal. One might then take the logical next step and ask what theboilding point is, and how glass is made and what elements glass is made out of. If you do not understand read this http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/geophys/meltrock.html here is a page listing the energy formula http://www4.nau.edu/microanalysis/Microprobe/Column-ElectronGun.html There are lots of different links you could read to bring yourself closer to understanding with depending on the materials used design differs slightly but the premise remains a hot knife in butter and support and pressurization long enough for pressurized magma to reach a stable temperature either naturally or through assisted means. http://www.tungsten.com.cn/ingformation-of-pure-tungsten/Catalog-of-Pure-Tungsten.pdf If you are thinking oh it would get stuck, - this is why you have the casing able to be pressurized larger or smaller though an adjustable skin, likewise as long as the temperature of the exterior of the craft if kept hotter than the melting point of the stone it is drilling through itt is like that hot knife again and it wont get stuck unless the reactor fails, which is not likely. ok a bone. http://www.ancient-wisdom.co.uk/vitrified.htm

How bout you just go back a few pages and read the quote that the initial response doubting the statements was, as that is the quote. I dunno about that, systematically the Queen is the head of the Judiciary as well as Executive but she would have to utilize reserve powers and that is iffy. Since Judges are in sitting representing the Queen then technically there is nothing preventing a trial of the Queen systematically since she has a name Elizibeth Windsor (actually much longer), as well the crown attorneys office or a private prosecutor which is still law for anyone to act as a special prosecutor with leave of the court. There are serious doubts to the immunity factor in the modern era as everyone is equal, and the premise is everyone equal under the law. She does have a passport I beleive (I could be mistaken on this - she may actually have multiple passports - I'm not sure about the drivers license thing, and the taxes thing I"m also not sure about - I'd love to see your sources for these infobits) Lots of heads of state have immunity from prosecution but usually prosecution only occurs after being deposed, or there being impeachment processes prior to other forms of legal action -- although there are civil actions. She would be able to more or less veto her conviction though using the royal prerogative. Although I'm not sure if thte queen could act on her own advise in a non reserve powers manner due to it being a political action to act independently. Of course fitting the house gaurd in the cell with her would probably be difficult to manage without expanding the cell. I find it hard to beleive she doesn't have a passport as she has travelled to the US, and no one gets into the US without a passport except perhaps refugees and Mexicans. Even though her uncle the king married an American I'm pretty damn sure she isn't American.

Guys please let me know if you are serious or just pretending to be stupid.

false. a 15 million boring machine is not cost prohibitive for the project, it actually is cheaper than chlearing a 100meter x 1000km chunk of forest. sorry try again. What are you talking about both plasma and nuclear power plants exist and are used for a variety of applications. Even though Ford developed plans for nuclear powered vehicles half a century ago, its not like people will be driving thorium powered cars in the near future, and flight of radioative materials ain't exactly going to get past a non conservative product safety consumer agency. Oil has a solid 20 years as an energy source left atleast, even though there will be a shift as oil prices increase, also materially its use will phase out as plastics become less effective than other materials processing. It will become obsolete but its not like wood has stopped being used, the transition will bring us easily into the next 20 years, and specialized fuel sells are forcast into contigency operations of equipment for atleast 20 years. There will be a secondary class for oil by the 2030's both by necesity and advantage of other resources. You just seem way out of touch on the fact mini nuclear reactors by Toshiba for instance and plsma used in a variety of industrial applicatoins such as coating operations are used currently and available for commercial usages not just military. But they tend to be only in major sectors like Aerospace, Nautical, and Energy - gas and oil would not be alien to those class to industries. The stuff exists its not scifi.

Where are you moving the oil to the moon? Come on you are telling me BC wouldn't love a giant glass pipe.... line.

read the link http://cedb.asce.org/cgi/WWWdisplay.cgi?159334 see picture 7,8,9 for a scaled down version of a drill bit. Just keep in mind the borers used in your tunnels are made of steel and rubber they are not the best that can be produced, they are relatively safe though. Here is one from Harvard http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1985lbsa.conf..465R

A tunnel to china is a little more difficult because of a 1000m threshold before rock collapse is possible that is why the line needs to be kept not to deep but deep enough and definately in solid rock and not near any fault lines or major cleaves or vents.

nay nay. There is definately progress on a variety of space elveators. Now that carbon nanotubels and other nano fibres are in production the projects have actually started. There are pictures, but I can't vouche for their validity. The systems which were patented by US Government employees so said are controlled by the US government - well some designs. It is only quite recently that microreactors that can be used have become a little more accessable and cost effective. Most of it is relegated to the realm of US military projects, some of which have been validated, but why for instance would the US Airforce run subsurface systems? Wouldn't the army run subterrain systems? None the less tunnel borers that are used commercially right now for most projectss are very dated technologies, they use steel and rubber parts that need replacement, when there are stronger and more long lasting materials. It is very simple physics when all you need to do is calculate melting point, pressurization coefficients for land type, sensor systems to scan rock surface, since it is bedrock it is just dealing with a variety of different rock types of generally the same type. The old borers also use humans rather than advanced intellgence systems and robotics. Frankly you are suporting old systems of doing things, you are living in the past. In terms of the space elevator there are competing projectst, seatle, japan, eu, and even google (google is a rumour however as part of its GOOGLE X future earth stuff). Incineration of garbage is bad. You just don't get that materials technology is still advancing and things cost prohibitive will become less and less costly as time proceeds. Carbon nanotubules will dramatically drop in price when chinese industry catches up. It will remove the need for other materials and even reduce the need for rare earth metals. Carbon is both very abundant, and something that we need to take from the atmosphere this one is a no brainer. You don't see NTBM's due to noncompetition in the industries. NTBM's once they have approval to operate are more cost effecitve, but you don't make these things with junk steel and rubber. They are nuclear powered machines that require high carbon materials,you don't use steel when you can use materials like tungsten, you don't use rubber when you can use more powerful materials. The benefits of NTBM's is that they don't have to be connected to the surface, they don't need humans in them and they can operate much faster because they immediately deal with stury like concrete patching systems. This tunnel isn't in an urban area, it is throuhg the middle of nowhere there is no need to run things slow to prevent cave in, just do the thing, it is also through solid rock which makes it easier than dealing with sand dirt or gravel. Read up the melting temeprature of rock, the operation of these things is damned simple to understand if you understand simple physics. Getting a micronuclear reactor was more difficult because they weren't being commercially produced 10 years ago, you better beleive they existed and were used by the US military though. If China can build 10 cities (able to hold 60 million people nearly 2x the population of Canada) in a year you better beleive they will be able to build a space elevators.... take the train. Sadly I can't provide many details because most of the stuff is classified materials, even still classified if not related to other projects that are top secret. even though the work started as far back as the 1950's and entered the drawing board in the 70's with complete systems, and went into production on a few test systems, which were reported to not be completely without failure. However the little information that existed is 20-40 years old now on those projects. Here is a more recent article. http://cedb.asce.org/cgi/WWWdisplay.cgi?159334

Maybe something like this? http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_sociopol/underground01g_01.gif http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_sociopol/underground01g_02.gif There are a bunch of different NTBM model types. maybe with a reactor like http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Toshiba's_Home_Nuclear_Fusion_Reactor or an alternate thorium reactor...

OK read it it is near the bottom it is a direct quote, the paper is sponsered by the justice department and appears on their website. last updated 08/03/2012 I'm not sure about the charge thing, implicating and charging are two seperate things. Although the government can be sued, generally criminal charges need to be pressed against individuals not persons. The government is not immune they only have at times colour of right. Even the Queens immunity from prosecution has been called into question in the last 20 years. Although in the case of widespread corruption many persons can be charged with the charge and/or conspiracy to commit a given charge, of course corruption in the justice system, blue wall ect are obvious conflicts to prevent abuse of power. But to the point, the quote was direct from a justice department publication that appears on their website.

Why use rockets when you can use the space elevator Japan is building. You are living in the past. The reality here is that most garbage can actually be sequestered to usefull purposes. Organics can be reclaimed. Plastics can be organically decomposed. metals can be reclaimed really there is nothing that can't be reclaimed from garbage dumps. It is just the equipment required to do it. It is a net gain as long as the energy exists. We could put the poor to work going through the midens in leui of robotic systems to remove the buildups and toxic substances. Dump sites are goldmines. reading through the top 100 links on google here and you will get an idea of what is possible. http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=robotic+reclaimation+systems+robots+landfills&oq=robotic+reclaimation+systems+robots+landfills&gs_l=serp.3...3179.10014.0.10105.45.33.0.0.0.0.619.8909.0j2j13j11j0j3.29.0...0.0...1c.Ld7J_ZN1cww&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=f3d5e36516d5e272&biw=1366&bih=474 Instead of airport and building entrance scanners we could have (if not both) scan the garbage save the humans http://beaconnews.ca/calgary/2012/05/recycling-robot-arm-intelligently-sorts-waste/

It was the justice department that wrote it, notice the " "'s http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/pi/rs/rep-rap/2003/rr03_vic1/p7_2.html

where are you getting the figures for nuclear tunnel boring machines tunneling speed from? I think you are refering to other forms of boring tunnelers that don't use nuclear power and use inferior only mechanical technologies. NTBM's such as powered by thorium microreactors cost less, make stronger tunnels and don't have waste to be removed as they glassify debris. Also the timeline was over 3x the total time requred giving an 8 hour work day. It could be done in 10 days working around the clock.