tapanga12

no-as long as choice remains entirely the woman's decision she should be responsible. btw I'm a single bachelor no kids dude. only path to happiness it takes 2peole to make a baby so it should take 2parents to raise or abortion the baby

Yes all true. But your argument against abortion was that it prevented a baby from "having a chance to live". So if you destroy a fetus, and prevent it from becoming a baby, how is that conceputally different? BTW, if you want to continue this discussion, I will happily do so in another thread. I am not willing to hijack Jerry's topic any further than has already been done. centraception prevents a fetus from starting, so when you use contraception then you don't start creating a a fetus which then later turns into a baby

Because I can read. My comment wasn't directed to your opinions. Of course you are entitled to your own opinions regardless of who you agree with. My comment was directed to the fact that you posted an off-topic inflamatory post. The topic being discussed was whether men should have a say in the decision. The topic was NOT whether abortions were moral or not. So is contraception wrong too because you are preventing someone from having a chance to live? Should vasectomies and hysterectomies be illegal as well as they deprive a potential life from being born? Of course you have to accept the responsibilites of sex, but you have some measure of control on the outcome. By your view, adoptions should also be prohibited because the parents should have to live with the consequences of their actions. Go wild with it then. contraception,vasectomies and hysterectomies don't kill something they prevent it theres a difference. With contraception, vasectomies and hysterectomies it all happens BEFORE you get pregnant.

Because I can read. My comment wasn't directed to your opinions. Of course you are entitled to your own opinions regardless of who you agree with. My comment was directed to the fact that you posted an off-topic inflamatory post. The topic being discussed was whether men should have a say in the decision. The topic was NOT whether abortions were moral or not. So is contraception wrong too because you are preventing someone from having a chance to live? Should vasectomies and hysterectomies be illegal as well as they deprive a potential life from being born? Of course you have to accept the responsibilites of sex, but you have some measure of control on the outcome. By your view, adoptions should also be prohibited because the parents should have to live with the consequences of their actions. Go wild with it then. well the whole main idea of the post is abortion,choice and responsibility and i think people who get pregnant should have to be responsible and have their kid/s. So technically im not off topic because my post was on abortion and that is the topic of this board.

When does that happen? At what point in pregnancy does Jesus sprinkle the embryo with fairy dust and -presto!- the fetus becomes a cute widdle baby? As for accepting consequences, does that also mean we shouldn't treat STD's, because hey: you have sex, you pay the price. Ditto, I suppose, for smokers: hey, you smoked, the cancer's your problem. And so on and so forth. umm not all smokers get cancer... and not all cancer patients smoke

Since you are only 14 I'll cut you some slack. Abortion is more complex a question than murder, because it is about conflicting rights. In murder it is only the victim who has their rights to security violated. With abortion the fetus has rights for preservation, however those rigthts are superceded by the right of the woman to decide what she will do with her body. We live in a free society and we beleive that we cannot force a woman to host a pregnancy against her will even if the consequences are dire for the fetus. Further while it is clear that the fetus is life, it far from clear that the fetus is a 'human' while early term? BTW, please stop with the oversize colour posts. We can read the normal size, b & w font just fine. how do you know im 14? also i don't need any slack im old enough top have my own opinions and they don't have to be the same as yours Yes but a fetus turns into a baby so you are killing someones life before they even have a chance to live it. I believe abortion is horrible because if you have sex you should have to accept all the responsibilities with it. o and by the way i don't care if you don't like my font cause i like it

if murder is against the law then so should abortions you can have lots of freedom but killing is not a freedom we should be allowed to have. Abortion is killing a baby, and if they legalize killing babies then why wouldn't they just leagilize killing and crimes. We can only have so much freedom without going too far. Without rules we'ld be scared to leave our door for the sake of being killed and not cared about. You have enough freedom to have sex then with sex take the responsibilities of the outcome -whether it be a baby or std-.

i so agree like now you can't say the word 'black' without someone being offended. They changed the song 'Baa baa Black sheep' to 'Baa Baa rainbow sheep' because it decriminated against 'black' people? like how does a black sheep offend some people . The government wants to change 'black history month' to 'heritage month' and i think thats a great idea, but dark people don't like that idea. Canada is a fair country with equal rights for every culture/race/colour but yet the people who have always wanted equal rights (dark people) don't seem to want it when there higher up. 'Black history month' is prejudice because it puts the 'black' group higher than everyone else. I am 14years old and i am not racist at all, but i don't want to end up being descriminated agaisnt and used as slaves in like 10years by dark people because now we finally have equal rights and i don't want to change.