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Thank you for your post Lost, I liked it. I appreciate that you are not a communist or whatever other foul label some might conjure up, but there ironically is a lot more to your post than you may have imagined at first glance and I do think it is worthy of deeper consideration. Let me say, when I first posted here before Christmas, I made some comments regarding the occupation of a country once known as Palestine to help shine some light on the cause of suicide bombing, and was hastily labeled anti Semitic. I questioned the current direction of the US administration (as 50% or more Americans were doing at the time) and was painted with the anti-American brush. I offered a peaceful and creative solution (less costly in dollars and human lives to the Iraqi situation) and was told I supported Saddam. I offered the echo of most Arabs in helping some to understand why 9/11 happened and was accused of being ignorant and supporting terrorism. I mentioned that the Iraqi thing does have a link to oil, and was called a peace-nik and a hippie and told I knew nothing about the oil. Doesn’t matter that I do know about oil and how it is brought to the surface, how it is transported soon by US shipping, how royalties work (payable soon to engineering firms from the US and Britain), etc, etc. I spent over thirty years researching the period of time leading up to and including the Second World War. I was told I have no knowledge of this period because I didn’t bore the heck out of everyone with a detailed account of The Kingdom of Poland’s transformation to the Vistula Province and back to Poland again after the end of the First World War. Germans who were later exposed to reprisals from Polish civilians and authorities aren’t worth the mention; if you do then you become a Nazi apologist, revisionist and holocaust denier – even though I’ve interviewed several different German survivors from that region. Well Lost, it’s that kind of group: stridently pro-war. But it is still lots of fun to rattle their cages. Or you could just put the blinders on and agree with everything they tell you. I really did like your post though, it was written in a simple way, but it holds s stunning amount of concern for the unregarded list of political priorities.

quote: Originally posted by FastNed: Say Lost, I hope you are not talking about your own life but if any part of that is personal, screw the government, contact the nearest Church or two or three and tell them you need help. Or your children need help! Both of our countries have a vast number of people willing to help someone having a bad spell and don't need government permission to give it. Hey Ned, I think most are missing the point of the post. If I'm wrong, I'm sure Lost will correct me. I have followed this ideology as a study and it does have merit. It comes from Marx. There is a form of violence in capitalism that is over looked by most in the shadow or war. The very economy of capitalism is in a form a warfare against the working class. Again, this is still held to be true by many, that speculators and traders tend to have damaging effects on peoples lives both financially and otherwise. I have an empathetic mood to this situation. Am I wrong Lost?

quote: Originally posted by Hugo: Bill, I believe you are just being inflammatory now. I don't think any sane man could complain about how the government has failed the unemployed and depressed of the USA, while he condones the perpetuation of the habitual torture, rape and execution of countless innocent Iraqis that has gone on every day for over 20 years. Either you are trying to start arguments, or you genuinely are a racist, a bigot, a Nazi apologist and a Ba'athist. I sincerely hope that it is the former. What ... are you talking? I was commending the person on their post and commenting on its merit. You have issues Hugo! Drop the Nazi crap and get a life.

Hello Lost in Manitoba, Hahaha, that was a great post! It’s true, some think of weapons and destruction as coming only from a military aspect or a belligerent government; while under our very noses, economic weapons are dropped every day. So then, what has been the toll? Think of the man who has not only lost his job, and now his family, but sits alone desperate and depressed. What suffering goes unnoticed here in our own country while others decide what colour the second Mercedes should be? Are our children getting enough? Do we have safe places for them to grow up? Are the families of this nation or the United States any better off for the war in Iraq? How does it feed the suffering? How does it encourage the discouraged? That was a great post Manitoba.

Well gosh I’m sorry. I just heard that Americans where really putting demand on that stuff and, well, you never know, Ned might have run into some. But I am sorry if it was found to be offensive. I meant it as light humour. Sorry Ned!

Hello Ned, What the heck are you talking about? You are addressing me; I never posted here until just now. You must be on another train of thought. Or maybe some of that high grade BC import veggy action I've heard so much about.