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Do you think that happened over night? This is what they do, they chip away at your rights, using the excuse of their rights being supposedly violated- befor you know it, they have more rights than the people who they chose to go and live with. Really, if they wanted sharia law, why did they go to other countries in the first place, knowing full well that sharia law is not in place there. The answer is Islamification of the world, wake up and smell the roses before the thorns get you. I strongly suggest people start to keep an eye on what muslims want, before they sneak up and take it.

Sp personal chatsites are not credible? Why? You can see what the average muslim is talking about, if I go to a football chatsite, guess what they are talking about? If I go to a Christian chatsite-guess what they are talking about? So, if I go to a Muslim chatsite- guess whatthey are talking about? As to what to do-for immigrants (The Dutch are doing similar as we speak) make them swear before Allah, that they will follow the laws of the land, that they will be tolerant of other people's right to live the way they want and will not try to change the way people live in the adopted country. Better still, outlaw immigration from muslims- would you have taken the Japanese as immigrants during the 2nd world war? As to the muslims that are already in countries, do not under any circumstance change the laws to accomodate their narrow muslim beliefs. I mean, they are gauranteed religious fredom under the constitution of most western nations, but with that, comes the obligation to mind your own religious beliefs. A prime example is how they are continually wingeing about Christmas and other Christian celebrations supposedly "offending them"- well tough! No one asks them to look, and noone asks them to join in unless they want to. I have a friend in England who had 1 solitary muslim come to work for them. He complained and used anti-discrimination laws to get : * His own toilet to use- apparently his sensitive muslim beliefs wouldn't allow him to use the toilets women or kaffirs (people who reject Islam)use * His own room in which to pray 5 times a day, the ruling was he must be able to practice his religious beliefs and he was to make up the time at the end of the day- trouble is, they wanted to close up, so they had to either stay back with him, or just let him off * His own halal (food allowed under Islam) food at the cafeteria * Then this little beauty- he didn't like the background music being played, because he believed that music is haramm (not allowed by Allah), so they had to get him a set of earphones so that he couldn't hear the music, he then comp[lained that they were uncomfortable and he was being discriminated against by having to wear them when noone else had to. So he is currently asking that they stop the music or get everyone else earphones- Last I heard this wasn't resolved. This politically correct crap, is what must stop.

eoffrey Today, 02:00 AM Post #116 The Big Leagues Group: Members Posts: 1868 Joined: 10-May 05 From: Cowtown Member No.: 974 Oh yes Leafless, I'm sure the grand Islamic conference of the World (GICOTW) had a discussion about how to use birth rates to make lots of little Islamists to immigrate to Canada and overthrow western democracy. Come on now please. Islam isn't like many western religions in that it doesn't have a centralised policy making group. It's pretty much a random assortment of various sects. As long as they don't organize, I wouldn't be too worried about their quest for world domination as you think they are. There is no conspiracy, you guys at times sound as crazy as those 'a truck crashed into the pentagon on 9/11' people. If any group opposed your so called "Islamification" its Quebec. They have been the most outspoken on how it attacks their distinct society. They definitely aren't encouraging immigration of anyone other than French folks. No conspiracy?? how about you do some research like I have done on chat sites where muslims don't know you are watching- try Ummah.com whyislam.com and www.islamicboard.com just for starters, in fact, just go to "islamic forums" anywhere and have a look for a while, you will soon work out that world domination is their dream, that they do not respect the law of the land-only the law of sharia, that they consider all westerners evil and that they would take away all our freedoms if they could. Don't argue with me till you have a look for yourselves,

If Islamification of Canada is not the aim, why try to make new laws to suit the muslims? I say again, they ALREADY could use their own religious system within the laws of Canada. So what are they asking for? dispensation from the laws that everyone esle has to adhere to? Also, you should come here where muslims who make up 4% of the population have winged so much that many laws have passed just to keep them happy. Like the police handbooks mentoned earlier, the fact that christmas celebrations have either been banned in public or curtailed, the fact that after the Cronulla riots where the locals (including me) had had enough of the gangs taking over the streets, the police cracked down only on the Anglo's, that is despite NOT ONE muslim being stabbed or other serious injury, but over 30 anglo's being seriously hurt with knives etc. I am so sick of the political correctness that is forcing our western nations to give away the rights so easily, that our forefathers fought and died for. I hope there are enough Canadians to see what is happening, we are in the firing line of Islamic desire for world domination, by all means possible- they are using birth rates, terrorism, immigration and economic (oil etc) means to defeat us and we are to stupid to realise it. If you don't believe me, have a look at the various Islamic chat sites like Ummah.com, you will be surprised at how true what I am saying is.

Good, but this is the thing- What was stopping them from doing that anyway? why would they need a law change? There is nothing stopping musims from having their own hearings in their own mosques . The only reason they would want the law changed is to start the process of Islamification of Canada!

I haven't talked here for a while, How is this thing going in Canada? Have the muslims got their own laws yet? I certainly hope not. Before you allow that, you really should find out about what their laws are- eg on apostacy (leaving Islam), zina (sex outside marriage), homosexuality- they all bring the death penalty under sharia.

Oh how trusting you are. If you get a chance, have a look at what the most senior moslem in Australia is saying about Australian culture- Sheik Taj al-Din al-Hilali, Grand Mufti of Australia and imam of Sydney's Lakemba Mosque. (among other things that its our fault that so many Lebanese boys have commited gang rape here- because we allow skimpy clothing) Already Chrstmas celebrations are banned in many schools and shopping centres because of supposedly offending the moslems. I don't think you guys have any idea what sharia law is. And like any political group trying to change the culture of where they live, they will try a little bit at a time. You are only seeing the tip of the iceburg. Did you know Iran didn't used to have sharia law untill relatively recently? Now they do all the things I mentioned before (penalty for changing religion is death, girls must dress modeslty (that means virtually no skin other than the face showing, penalty for gays is death, penalty for even minor theft is hands chopped off, girls in Saudi are beaten to hospital if the wind blows their dress and the police see her ankles) Oh, and if you think women will willingly submit to sharia law, they will- but only because of the threat of "honour killing" if they don't. There can only be one law in a country, if you allow this sharia business it will be the tip of the iceburg and could spell the end of democracy in Canada- not now, or next year, but gradually until they have enopugh power for a revolution- Have a look at how it happened in Iran, Aceh, Have a look at what is happening right now in West Papua. Oh, and I saw that some of you guys writing believe its just arbitration that they want- What a load of crap, they can already have arbitration, they don't need to make it law- There is always an alterior motive when someone wants to make whatthey can already do into a new law.

You guys in Canada are nuts. What next? stoning women for adultery, killing gays, making it law to not show your ankles? You are kidding yourselves if you think Moslems who want sharia law will not keep pushing for that! Before you know it you will have lost all your freedoms that you now take for granted. You won't be able to drink alcohol, have sex with who you choose, be able to wear nice clothing, change your religion, and a host of other freedoms.