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6 hours ago, Derek 2.0 said:
Kevin O'Leary doesn't "sell" party memberships, he, like the other candidates link to the CPC generic registration......maybe ~9000 people have visited his website? Or maybe ~9000 people have joined after he entered the race....granted, that could be people joining the party to vote against Kevin O'Leary.
Let's assume though that he has got 9000 people to join that intended to support him, that would represent ~10-15% of party members........what regions and ridings are these supporters in? Are they concentrated or spread out?
None the less, I will watch tonight's debate and see how O'Leary does
Wrong. If they have it setup properly they sell membership through their website which tracks the numbers for them.
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10 hours ago, Derek 2.0 said:
And they can't, its a party wide membership.........they don't even have the ballots finalized.
What?
Kevin O'Leary has since said he has sold 9000 memberships.
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We also don't know if Bernier's fundraising support is translating into membership sales either. I know he has had some issues with on the ground organizing. None of the candidates have given any indication on how many memberships they've sold.
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So the Conservative should not be any different than they were under Harper because they shouldn't have lost to Trudeau and people will eventually realize it?
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1 hour ago, Derek 2.0 said:
Mulroney was reliant upon Quebec (separatists) and his never ending herding of Quebec cats led to alienation of the West and furthered the Reform movement....unless you want a generation of Trudeau, Mulroney's path is not one to repeat..........Chong doesn't sell in the West.
Bernier's libertarian ethos put him in a position akin to Social Credit......something that works in both Quebec and the West. Harper was able to herd conservative cats of many different stripes, the next leader will also have to do this.
Mulroney may have screwed up after getting the coalition but he still was able to find a message that resonated across all of Canada, something Harper never really did.
The party needed to move on from Mulroney, the same applies for Manning, Day, Clarke, Harper etc. A leader needs to be leading their own party, not their predecessor's party.
The country is going to be a lot different in 2019 than it was in 2006 when Harper first won. Whoever succeeds him has to find their own winning coalition. If Harper's coalition had been so great he'd be Prime Minister at the moment.
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On 2017-01-26 at 9:45 PM, Derek 2.0 said:
Well you should care........Harper figured out one of the few winning formulas, and the next leader will need to repeat said formula.......unless you're expecting Mulroney 2.0
Why not a Mulroney 2.0? Why not a Bernier 1.0? a Chong 1.0?
Yes, Harper was successful and people know what he did to win. The party needs to move on past Harper just like they have moved on from other past leaders of the predecessor parties.
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Personally I couldn't give two F***s who Harper would vote for. The man is gone and it's time for the party to move on. Whoever becomes leader is going to have to figure out their own winning coalition in order to succeed.
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8 hours ago, betsy said:
He was trying to defend his "mispoke" about the fossil fuel in Calgary, and then he proceeded to take the credit for the pipeline. he said that even Harper knew that we had to eventually move from fossil fuel, that's why he (Trudeau) approved the pipeline, something that Harper was not able to do!
The only reason why Harper was not able to get the pipeline approved was due to Trudeau's love-bro, Obama! Had Trump been President during Harper's time, there's no question - Harper would've gotten that pipeline!
Had Hillary won, Trudeau wouldn't do squat about the pipeline. That's the truth of it. With Trump as President - and with the direction Trump is going - he's been forced to approve the pipeline - Trudeau saw the writings on the wall! Hopefully, Trudeau will be pressured too, to say bye-bye to carbon tax!
Be honest, Justin. Stop fibbing. Don't take the credit that's not really yours.
What did Obama have to do with, Kinder Morgan, Northern Gateway or Energy East? The only pipeline project Obama screwed up for Canada was Keystone.
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19 hours ago, ?Impact said:
So you don't want to wait for the Parliamentary ethics commissioner to actually finish investigating?
I never said that at all. I think it's quite important that she investigates. What I said was that there are a lot of people who think the whole thing is foolish and have criticized the media for paying attention to it. I don't agree with those people.
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I've heard lots about Trudeau's ethical breaches, and I mainly watch CBC. And while they're covering Trudeau possibly breaking the law I hear people complain about how foolish it is that the media are focusing too much attention on it.
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18 hours ago, blueblood said:
I've talked about Andrew scheer. He's quite capable and would do a good job. I don't know what his vision is though and I think he would get creamed by the liberal and media machine, he is more policy wonk but has no policy.
Oleary however is media savvy and has a clear vision on how he would do things. People want to vote for something instead of just becoming the leader.
I don't even know what would make Scheer quite capable of doing a good job. Maybe as leader he'd do well with regard to keeping the current party base together but his resume outside of politics is weaker than Trudeau's so who knows what he'd be like as a Prime Minister.
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21 hours ago, Argus said:
Nobody seems to be taking much about Andrew Scheer, though he seems to have the most support in caucus.
Mr. Scheer’s agreeable nature appears to be working: He has so far amassed the most support in the Conservative caucus, a tally that could give him the edge in the leadership race.
He has 23 Conservative MPs and six senators endorsing him, the most of any other contestant. Last week, four Quebec MPs added their names to the list, a significant number for a party that only has 12 MPs from the province, two of whom are already running for leader.
He has the most support from caucus but at this point his campaign has been relatively quiet.
His campaign may very well be quietly signing up members and receiving the support of current members.
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17 hours ago, Argus said:
Once again Trudeau seems to be following a politically correct doctrine of appointing people for their skin color and gender rather than demonstrated competence. Four of the six new ministers are women, the others being a francophone man and a Somali with all of one year in politics.
As Andrew Coyne put it last year in terms of numbers:
Women make up just over a quarter of the Liberal caucus, yet they will make up precisely half of cabinet. Your chances of getting into cabinet as a woman are as such roughly three times that of a man: 30 per cent, in a 28-member cabinet, versus 10 per cent.
So which ministers are grossly unqualified to be ministers and only hold their position due to their gender or skin colour?
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The NDP, if things don't improve greatly for them, would probably be wiped out with a ranked ballot.
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10 hours ago, OftenWrong said:
He's also a hypocrit and liar. From July 23 2015, before he was elected PM:
Federal Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau is speaking out in support of a controversial medical marijuana store in Winnipeg.
During a stop in the city on Wednesday, Trudeau said marijuana storefronts like “Your Medical Cannabis Headquarters,” owned by Glenn Price, should be allowed to operate.
He was also overheard to say "Yoh, Ima Legalize... so come and buy my shit, bitches".(Why you'd make up the quote I striked out I don't know)
There's a difference is stores selling medical marijuana and just selling it to whoever walks in the door.
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1 hour ago, PIK said:
I get a kick out of the media making jokes about how many people are running, just like thee media did in the states. I would think it is better then the coronation they had for trudeau and clinton and guess who won in america.
The Liberals still had a nice crop of candidates running when Trudeau won though. Besides Trudeau there were two MPs, a former MP, a former cabinet ministers and some lesser known candidates. None of them stood a chance but they still ran.
The Conservative race is too big. They can't even have a proper debate with so many on stage, just like the Republicans couldn't.
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I still don't think O'Leary will enter. I'd bet on him endorsing Bernier than him actually entering.
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21 hours ago, Argus said:
He wants to be the Quebec lieutenant of the next leader and he's afraid that's going to go to Bernier because of his higher profile. I think he only cares about garnering support from Quebec.
Bernier's higher profile came from being fired from cabinet.
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3 hours ago, Argus said:
So the newest Tory leadership candidate is Steven Blaney, who started out his candidacy promising to ban niqabs in a whole bunch of places. I'm wondering what Blaney's game is. I don't think he really believes he has a chance of winning. I think he's just trying to raise his profile in Quebec, and this will do that. Eighty percent of Quebecers support the Quebec Liberal party's bill 62, which would ban any sort of facial covering while giving or receiving public services. I find it hard to believe Quebec tories are any more tolerant of niqabs, so he will get a lot of support there. I think he's trying to position himself as a bigger Quebec name, someone who has to be taken more seriously by the leadership.
http://globalnews.ca/news/3021779/conservative-stephen-blaney-niqab-ban/
I think Blaney waited a bit too long to enter the race but he probably appeals to Quebeckers more so than Bernier does. As well, his clearer vision on identity politics will probably help him more so than it has helped Leitch. I don't know how long he'll last though.
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11 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:
Would all those people who 'really like her' (how many people really like any politician?) actually vote for a party led by her? I have already conceded she's bright and photogenic but IMO also abrasive and prone to shrillness, e.g. some of those Critch tweets, and I can't see her having much appeal to centrist voters which is the only place the Conservative Party can expand. Raitt and O'Toole have a significant advantage there.
I think she does.
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On 2016-10-20 at 11:58 AM, SpankyMcFarland said:
Quoting other people saying it is still strange. She's not that young.
Why? I say bravo to her for pushing back against those making sexist comments instead of letting it slide.
You may not like her but I know lots of people who aren't fans of the CPC and really like her. She'd be a very strong candidate and I think cause a bit of excitement.
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8 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:
Has Rempel definitely ruled a run out? Publicly describing yourself at 35 as 'so young' and a 'chick' is sort of weird. She does have talent and good looks to burn but needs to respond more maturely to criticism.
She didn't describe herself as 'so young' and a 'chick,' she spoke out against those telling her she was both those things and therefore not a leader. She pointed out that she was successful in her pre-political career and ran a government department.
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2 hours ago, Topaz said:
When I was in public school many many moons ago, we had a French teacher that taught French spoken by people in France and the Quebec French is a little different I was told.
Yes it can be quite different. I know of someone who had a French degree, lived in Quebec for a little while and then moved to France. They only lived in France briefly because they didn't like it but one of the hardest parts about being there was the language. Despite being bilingual and being able to live in Quebec they found communicating with people in France tough.
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Using Anglophone or Francophone isn't really correct. Non-Quebec leader would be.
CPC 2017: Bernier vs Alexander
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Except there is no wheeling and dealing. It's a preferential ballot.