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  3. CPC 2017: Bernier vs Alexander

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    15 hours ago, Argus said:

    Trudeau isn't afraid to have caucus members speak up! Because if you don't agree with Trudeau you don't get to be a candidate for the Liberal party.

    Of course, the same goes for the NDP. No disagreement with the Great Leader is allowed in left wing parties.

     

    Well Harper did the same thing and Scheer says he plans to do the exact same thing. 

  4. CPC 2017: Bernier vs Alexander

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    1 hour ago, Argus said:

    I think we define 'sensible' differently. I think most people out east define it as "someone who wants to increase our pogey and let us work fewer hours to get it".

    I prefer my leader's to believe it equal rights and not be afraid of allowing caucus members to speak up because you're afraid of showing how out of touch you are. 

  5. CPC 2017: Bernier vs Alexander

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    16 hours ago, Argus said:

    There's a limit to how long he can continue to bribe the fattest people in Canada with government welfare cheques. Eventually the credit downgrades start up and we're spending so much servicing the debt we can't pour more swill into their troughs. Then the rest of Canada will rebel.

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    I'd agree with you if the Conservatives had a sensible leader as an alternative to Trudeau.

  7. CPC 2017: Bernier vs Alexander

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    7 hours ago, Argus said:

    I don't think there's ever been a leader of any political party who is as much of a lightweight as Trudeau. Were it not for his name and looks he'd never have made anything for himself in life. His family connections have gotten him everything he has, including every job he's held.

     

    Yet, he booted Harper from office and will prevent Scheer from ever getting to power.

  8. CPC 2017: Bernier vs Alexander

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    21 hours ago, Argus said:

    I'd say speaker of the house and house leader were more important positions than two years as a private school teacher.

    At least Trudeau worked outside the walls of parliament. Scheer is a light weight and will be destroyed by Trudeau. Hopefully, the CPC will smarten up so the religious right doesn't win the leadership again.

  10. CPC 2017: Bernier vs Alexander

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    3 hours ago, PIK said:

    No he is not and once leaders are in position ,it is going to be harder. Trudeau is a nice guy and all ,but he is way out of his league .And he had another 2 yrs of screw ups to go. Even women that I know that vote fro him and now find him insulting. They seem to take offence to the thought that women can go know where unless justin helps them.And of course setting two of them up to fail and then throw them under the bus. This has to be one of the weakest cabinets we ever had. But I do agree with them trying to get out of peacekeeping in Mali, that will be disastrous for our country and military.

     

    How is he not. Polling shows the Liberals over 40%.

    I'm not a fan of Trudeau and I think there are many people who supported him who have been somewhat disappointed. I disagree that he's out of his league. Maybe I just had low expectations but I think he has performed okay. Although many of his policy decisions -  which don't seem unpopular - I disagree with. 

    I think his cabinet is one of the reasons he's done well. I think he has many competent people there. Wilson-Raybould, Freeland and Philpott have all been strong, especially considering their lack of experience in politics. McKenna has also been a competent minister. Carr is considered to be doing very well as is Goodale. 

    Morneau has been a real disappointment as has Chaggar, and Monsef. LeBlanc was awful as House Leader. Nobody else stands out as glaringly bad.

    Harper's cabinet definitely wasn't very strong. Although that's partly due to his leadership style, those who stayed did as he wanted. 

  11. CPC 2017: Bernier vs Alexander

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    Posted · Edited by Newfoundlander

    10 hours ago, PIK said:

    People are getting tired of his antics. People in ONT see that he is going to follow Wynne's lead. He deferred a lot of the ship building for yrs, the east coast will ,love that. Planes anyone? And his stunts, like jumping out of a cave just when some tourists are walking by. Or just happened to show up a wedding for pics and then lately the set up photo of him running pass a prom party. And the deficit and all the lies. The natives are pissed the vets are pissed. He is done.

     
     

    Amazing how he manages to poll higher now than when he was elected then.

  13. CPC 2017: Bernier vs Alexander

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    13 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

    I say it should be Chris Alexander, but it won't be. It'll probably be Maxime Bernier, whom I see as Stephen Harper reincarnated. Even the picture on his website looks like a Harper publicity shot, complete with family and casual looking "working class hero" shirt.

    The poll shows a majority of votes for Kevin O'Leary. Polls...

     

    While do you think it should be Alexander? 

    And how do you see Maxime Bernier as Stephen Harper reincarnated? In my opinion, they represent two different brands of conservativism, have different personalities, and while Harper opted for incremental changes with regard to policy Bernier has shown he'd like to be more bold. 

    Maxime Bernier and Michael Chong -  and more so Bernier - are the two candidates I see as representing the biggest change in direction for the party.

  15. CPC 2017: Bernier vs Alexander

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    Posted · Edited by Newfoundlander

    41 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

    Economic policy positions are easier to modify than social ones. Bernier would have to trim his libertarian sails to have any chance against JT. Harper knew exactly how far he could push Canada to the right and it wasn't that far. 

     
     
     

    I don't think his libertarian stances are too out of line - though they're are usually positions I hold anyway - I just think he wants to do too much too fast. I think there's a lack of pragmatism with regard to how much he would be able to implement in a four year period. His position regarding health transfers is something I don't think he should have been advocating at this time, especially seeing we just had federal/provincial negotiations. As well, by running on so many policies - especially fairly bold policies - your message regarding them kind of gets lost. I've heard people say he plans to privatize CBC, when he actually plans to change their mandate and reduce their spending. I've followed this race very closely and I don't necessarily understand his positions that well because he has put out so many policies and hasn't explained them that clearly. 

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  17. CPC 2017: Bernier vs Alexander

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    33 minutes ago, PIK said:

    Because he has support in quebec and very well liked out west. For me I think I will vote max then o'toole then scheer. But I can still change my mind. 

    So you think he can beat Trudeau by advocating for a 30% reduction in the size of government? The west will probably vote Conservative as usual but I don't see how Bernier's current platform will resonate with the people who decide elections.

    He'll be like the NDP.

  18. CPC 2017: Bernier vs Alexander

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    10 hours ago, Derek 2.0 said:

    Mad Max is different.........Bernier would will be the first Canadian Prime Minister, from Quebec, in decades not beholden to Power Corp........Bernier is cut from the same cloth as the old Social Credit Party, a Party more associated with the West than old Canada, but that always had a dedicated following within Quebec........he is a small "l" Libertarian, a belief more associated with individualism and personal responsibility.......as is said of him, he is at his core a Westerner but born in Quebec.......there is a reason he is picking up endorsements from members of the Wild Rose party.

    Bernier is an actual fiscal conservative, but isn't a social conservative, and will bring about fresh ideas that Canada needs in the 21st century.

     

    I don't see how he could ever win an election. 

  23. CPC 2017: Bernier vs Alexander

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    13 minutes ago, Derek 2.0 said:

     

    Based on what? (I'm curious, and would like to think you're right....what with being a Bernier cheerleader)

     

    Just my opinion. I think they have similar economic messages to an extent and are in-line on social issues. Although the three candidates are quite different, I've seen a bit of overlap in support for Bernier and Chong and to a lesser extent O'Leary. Many of their supporters are looking for a candidate who's bolder on policy and different than Harper. Scheer and O'Toole could be well positioned for a final two spot but would O'Leary go to them?

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  25. CPC 2017: Bernier vs Alexander

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    Posted · Edited by Newfoundlander

    4 hours ago, August1991 said:

    When O'Leary is eliminated (and he will be), his second-choice ballots will go where?

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    Newfoundlander, it is all about second-choice ballots.

     
     

    That would mean Alexander would have to finish ahead of O'Leary. How would he ever finish ahead of O'Leary?

    Yes, it's all about second, third choice etc. But you still need to have enough first ballot support in order to pick up other candidates second or third choice votes. Alexander is polling at ~2%.

    It seems unlikely at this point that O'Leary won't make it into at least the top three. If he doesn't make it into the top two I'd say his supporters would likely go to Bernier.

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