CP: Clean Air Act treats Canadians like 'idiots,' says author

[Slavik44]

Listen I am not a Liberal critic, on the issue of the environment, I crisize everyone...both the lazy and the unreasonable.

You can tell me about all these plans the liberals had, but you know what they say about even the best laid plans. Let me ask you about results. Because, I meet people who have plans. I have a friend who is over weight he always talks about comming to the gym with me, he always makes these plans to loose weight, every summer he is going to get a six pack, it never happens. So forgive me, for my cyncism, but I put actions, I put results, over promises. Hell, how many people agree to love and to cherish until death...only to get a divorce after six months, and you want me to take a damn sheet of paper as reality, I don't think so.

The results are clear....While the Liberals were in power our green house gas emmissions increased more then 30%, and almost 40% above what is are current Kyoto protocol goals. I appologize the Liberals didn't do nothing they allowed it to get worse.

I don't think the conservatives are doing much either, I would certainly approve of a more agressive clean air act. And I have stated this fact throughout the thread.

What I wanted people to take out of my post were two key questions, two key questions that most environmentalists refuse to fully answer or sometimes even acknowledge.

1. Is it actually possible in the next five years for Canada to reduce green house gase emmissions by 40% with out atleast partially paralizing this country and people?

** If the Answer is yes, tell me how on Gods no longer green earth do you plan on doing this?

2. Who do we blame for this inability? The environmentalists and the article blame a party that has not even been in power for a year. I blame the party that has been in power for the past decade, is that not the rational thing to do?

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As an asside I believe we can blame the conservatives for not doing enough, certainly that is fair, but I do not believe it is fair to blame the conservatives for being un-able to do something that is not possible. Could the conservatives do more? Yes. But, can they do what extreme environmentalist groups are calling on them to do? I don't believe that is possible. and that leaves us all in an unhappy scenario.

The Conservatives don't do enough

The Liberals, they sat back and allowed this problem to get out of hand, now they say they will do the impossible

The NDP and the Bloc also say they will do the impossible, thats nothing new.

So why is it unreasonable to ask for a party to stand up and say we will do what Canada can be reasonable expected to do, and recognize what it is that is reasonabley expected.

[shoggoth]

Over the last 100 years there

has been global warming tothe tune of 2 degrees celcius.

I don't know where you get that from but the temperature rise in the past 100 years has actually been less than half of that - about 0.8C. Also it is likely that as much as a third of that amount - in the early 20th century - is due to natural causes.

[Jerry J. Fortin]

Why do we need to blame anybody for the damned weather? Hello....McFly.......

Get a grip people the weather is changing. Believe it or not it does that now and again. So lets not get to worked up about it. Sure industry pollutes the environment, it also employs you. Sure the environment has been beaten up since the industrial revolution, but we are not share croppers any more are we?

Lets not cut our throats here but instead learn from our mistakes and start working on the real problem. Its the same problem that humanity has had since we came out of the caves, adapt or die. The weather changes so we adapt, that what we have to do.

We do need to clean up the mess we have created, but having said that lets not fire everybody and shut the place down to do it. The thing to remember that the environment WILL recover. It will simply take time. So why not implement green legislation for ALL new development, that would be adapting to the problem. Once that is done we can start dealing with existing problems after we have addressed our survivability. Its a queston of priorities and political direction. Granted we have had leaders that are less than stellar in terms of visionary ability, but it is we who can select the people to do the job. From my perspective we would be better off seeking representatives who support our opinions on the environment as the big priority as a candidate. Once the get elected then they can effect the changes we want, but they have to get elected and work from the inside to do it.