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Why is it that everytime we arrest another group of people who planned to bomb Toronto or London with 5 times as much explosive as the Oklahoma city bombing, the first thing we see on news is a big story about a dent on the outside of a mosque?

Are we so hyper sensitive that we can't examine what it is in Islam that causes these young chaps to want to self detonate all over the world?

I have a candid question:

Amongst all this rhetoric about "Moderate Muslims", why don't we actually go into Muslim communities and ASK THE QUESTION: do you support militant muslim actions or beliefs?

Instead of everyone GUESSING about what we're dealing with here, let's find out!

Makes sense to me!

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I have a candid question:

Amongst all this rhetoric about "Moderate Muslims", why don't we actually go into Muslim communities and ASK THE QUESTION: do you support militant muslim actions or beliefs?

Instead of everyone GUESSING about what we're dealing with here, let's find out!

Makes sense to me!

Makes no sense to me. By definition, MODERATE Muslims are people who do not support RADICAL muslims.

Why don't we just assume that no individual Muslim supports militant acts unless we are shown evidence to the contrary?

Are all Irish supporters of IRA murder? Are all Catholics supporters of IRA murder?

At the same time, any person who preaches or teaches hatred that may cause harm to others should be jailed, whether they do it as a act of terror or an act from beliefs.

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I have a few Muslim friends and there are moderates, very religious but definitely not radicals. They don't claim to know any radicals and I believe them.

The real issue isn't whether muslims are mostly moderate, but whether they acqueisce in the face of militant islam.

Anyone who knows alot of Irish people (I used to belong to the Irish club in a prominent Alberta city) knows that many of them quietly supported the IRA and it's cause. Is the same true amongst Muslims?

This is a valid question.

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I have a few Muslim friends and there are moderates, very religious but definitely not radicals. They don't claim to know any radicals and I believe them.

The real issue isn't whether muslims are mostly moderate, but whether they acqueisce in the face of militant islam.

Anyone who knows alot of Irish people (I used to belong to the Irish club in a prominent Alberta city) knows that many of them quietly supported the IRA and it's cause. Is the same true amongst Muslims?

This is a valid question.

Of course. With any ethnic group, whether they are Tamils from Sri Lanka, Somalis, Arabs, etc., if they speak out against violence and terrorism they are seen in their communities as traitors.

Its no different then why many decent, hard working black people stay silent and will not speak out against

the minority in their community who make it bad on them all.

Ethnic groups are afraid to criticize for fear it makes them look like sell-outs and that is too bad.

One thing I will say about we Jews, we have many who are anti-Zionist and loudly criticize Israel and even supporters of Israel who are Jewish will criticize it but we too are afraid people will mistake it or use it or exploit it to fan hatred against Israel and Jews in general so someone say like myself who is a moderate won't explain my views when I am faced with anti-semites and people spewing blatant anti-Israel statements.

I think many moderate Muslims and Arabs feel the exact same way. They are afraid of they criticize terrorism, people won't listen to what else they have to say.

Muslims are like any other ethnic group. They have insecurities as to what they can say and how they will be portrayed.

I think as Canadians we all have to find the courage to denounce terrorism no matter who advocates it. I mean how do we expect moderate Muslims to feel confident to speak out when they see elected MP's going and sucking up to Hezbollah to try get some ethnic votes? How would you feel seeing that?

I will say it again-I think only a minority of Muslims embrace terrorism but I do believe the vast majority have embraced anti-semitism as a cultural right and as long as they embrace anti-semitism and the inner belief that Israel is the enemy, nothing will change.

The fact is even mainstream Islam still teaches that Christian and Jewish religions are mistaken and that all other religions are mistaken. This is no different then many mainstream Christians who truly believe unless you believe in Christ, you go to hell.

Many moderate people are not so moderate because they accept their religions fundamental views not thinking this makes them intolerant. It is precisely the reason I do not embrace fundamentalist Judaism even though I am Jewish. I do not want to live in a ghetto and I do not think I am better or worse then anyone.

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