planetx Posted July 27, 2006 Report Posted July 27, 2006 from wikipedia: Fascism is a radical totalitarian political philosophy that combines elements of corporatism, authoritarianism, extreme nationalism, militarism, anti-anarchism, anti-communism and anti-liberalism. conservative extremists are winning the war of words because they are able to use words like 'communist' and 'marxist' and _now_even_ 'liberal' as bad words! time to bring the word 'fascist' back into use to describe conservative extremists. 'neo-con' just doesn't cut it... extremists are the true enemy of the people. Quote
planetx Posted July 27, 2006 Author Report Posted July 27, 2006 actually, wikipedia is even more informative re neo-conservatism: "Historically, neoconservatives supported a militant anticommunism, tolerated more social welfare spending than was sometimes acceptable to libertarians and mainstream conservatives, supported civil equality for blacks and other minorities, and sympathized with a non-traditional foreign policy agenda that was less deferential to traditional conceptions of diplomacy and international law and less inclined to compromise principles even if that meant unilateral action. Indeed, domestic policy does not define neoconservatism — it is a movement founded on, and perpetuated by an aggressive approach to foreign policy, free trade, opposition to communism during the Cold War, support for Israel and Taiwan and opposition to Middle Eastern and other states that are perceived to support terrorism. Broadly sympathetic to Woodrow Wilson's idealistic goals to spread American ideals of government, economics, and culture abroad, they grew to reject his reliance on international organizations and treaties to accomplish these objectives. Compared to other U.S. conservatives, neoconservatives may be characterized by an aggressive moralist stance on foreign policy, a lesser social conservatism, and a much weaker dedication to a policy of minimal government, and, in the past, a greater acceptance of the welfare state, though none of these qualities are necessarily requisite." this essentially places many of those who may believe that thay are neo-conservatives in the wrong camp entirely. neo-conservatives are _not_ antiliberalists! Quote
ClearWest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Posted July 28, 2006 Sure, Right-wing extremists gain power by saying that they can solve issues like terrorism and drug-crimes. But Left-wing extremists do the same thing just using different issues. Saying that they can solve issues like social inequality and environmental damage. I see very little difference between the two. Either idealogy, if they had their way, would have excessive amounts of power over us. You say that extremists are the enemy of the people. Well, what would you define as extreme? I'd say that the fact that government officials can seize citizen's property with or without a majority is wrong and even extreme. Yet it is considered a 'moderate' position to tax people. Moderate vs Extreme is relative. I think instead of looking at left vs right, people should pay more attention to authoritarian vs libertarian. As we've seen in the past, both left and right idealogies have been oppressive, and will continue to be oppressive the more and more that people consider them to be moderate. Quote A system that robs Peter to pay Paul will always have Paul's support.
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