Emerson

[Hollus]

Emerson move good for BC? More likely good for transnational forestry corps. Under his governence the Forest Revitalization Act has further consolidated forest industry into the biggest companies and deregulated the democratic process of land managent to the point where communities are locked out of any consultation between local municapalites and Forest companies. Not even allowed to hear whats being planned untill the chain-saws start cutting. Moreover, Emersons botched softwood deal with the US has allowed his friends to swallow up smaller local and national companies unable to compete in the wake of the dispute. But now that all those pesky homegrown companies have been swallowed up Im sure they'll work somthing out. Emerson should go back to being the CEO for Canfor if he's going to continue working for them.

Emerson not at B.C.’s service

[geoffrey]

Got to hate people that would be useful in clearing up the Softwood mess.

Oh right, the left does! They'd rather have no trees touched and poor people, then a sustainable industry that makes alot of people a living.

[Hollus]

Got to hate people that would be useful in clearing up the Softwood mess.

Oh right, the left does! They'd rather have no trees touched and poor people, then a sustainable industry that makes alot of people a living.

Emerson shelved a deal on softwood before the federal election. He refused to address our unfair stumpage subsidies(which is the US' dispute) because it was not in the best interest of the biggest forestry companies. The big companies are still turning profit throughout this dispute, but the smaller ones have gone out of business consoladating more of the industry into the biggest companies. 500 jobs gone in my community. Emerson is not managing forest in the best interest of Canadians, he's getting his orders from the lobbyists.

Since the Forest Revitalization Act in 2001 we've been selling old growth at 25cents a cubic meter(physically the size of your average telephone pole).

"Dogwood’s[NGO] Horter thinks companies like Canfor, and CEOs like Emerson, aren’t that unhappy with the U.S. tariffs. The tariffs and duties—which the big companies can absorb and still make a profit—set up a situation in which they can swallow up the smaller ones for whom the duties really are devastating. This is exactly what has happened."

Do you actually think about things geoffrey or do you just take opposition to whatever you percieve as coming from the 'left'?

[geoffrey]

Got to hate people that would be useful in clearing up the Softwood mess.

Oh right, the left does! They'd rather have no trees touched and poor people, then a sustainable industry that makes alot of people a living.

Emerson shelved a deal on softwood before the federal election. He refused to address our unfair stumpage subsidies(which is the US' dispute) because it was not in the best interest of the biggest forestry companies. The big companies are still turning profit throughout this dispute, but the smaller ones have gone out of business consoladating more of the industry into the biggest companies. 500 jobs gone in my community. Emerson is not managing forest in the best interest of Canadians, he's getting his orders from the lobbyists.

Since the Forest Revitalization Act in 2001 we've been selling old growth at 25cents a cubic meter(physically the size of your average telephone pole).

"Dogwood’s[NGO] Horter thinks companies like Canfor, and CEOs like Emerson, aren’t that unhappy with the U.S. tariffs. The tariffs and duties—which the big companies can absorb and still make a profit—set up a situation in which they can swallow up the smaller ones for whom the duties really are devastating. This is exactly what has happened."

Do you actually think about things geoffrey or do you just take opposition to whatever you percieve as coming from the 'left'?

Emerson is the most qualified person to secure a deal on softwood with the right government behind him. He needs to be Trade minister, it is the best interest of Canada and BC forestry workers.

[Hollus]

Got to hate people that would be useful in clearing up the Softwood mess.

Oh right, the left does! They'd rather have no trees touched and poor people, then a sustainable industry that makes alot of people a living.

Emerson shelved a deal on softwood before the federal election. He refused to address our unfair stumpage subsidies(which is the US' dispute) because it was not in the best interest of the biggest forestry companies. The big companies are still turning profit throughout this dispute, but the smaller ones have gone out of business consoladating more of the industry into the biggest companies. 500 jobs gone in my community. Emerson is not managing forest in the best interest of Canadians, he's getting his orders from the lobbyists.

Since the Forest Revitalization Act in 2001 we've been selling old growth at 25cents a cubic meter(physically the size of your average telephone pole).

"Dogwood’s[NGO] Horter thinks companies like Canfor, and CEOs like Emerson, aren’t that unhappy with the U.S. tariffs. The tariffs and duties—which the big companies can absorb and still make a profit—set up a situation in which they can swallow up the smaller ones for whom the duties really are devastating. This is exactly what has happened."

Do you actually think about things geoffrey or do you just take opposition to whatever you percieve as coming from the 'left'?

Emerson is the most qualified person to secure a deal on softwood with the right government behind him. He needs to be Trade minister, it is the best interest of Canada and BC forestry workers.

Do you have anything to base this on, or are you just repeating the party line?

[cybercoma]

Got to hate people that would be useful in clearing up the Softwood mess.

Oh right, the left does! They'd rather have no trees touched and poor people, then a sustainable industry that makes alot of people a living.

Emerson shelved a deal on softwood before the federal election. He refused to address our unfair stumpage subsidies(which is the US' dispute) because it was not in the best interest of the biggest forestry companies. The big companies are still turning profit throughout this dispute, but the smaller ones have gone out of business consoladating more of the industry into the biggest companies. 500 jobs gone in my community. Emerson is not managing forest in the best interest of Canadians, he's getting his orders from the lobbyists.

Since the Forest Revitalization Act in 2001 we've been selling old growth at 25cents a cubic meter(physically the size of your average telephone pole).

"Dogwood’s[NGO] Horter thinks companies like Canfor, and CEOs like Emerson, aren’t that unhappy with the U.S. tariffs. The tariffs and duties—which the big companies can absorb and still make a profit—set up a situation in which they can swallow up the smaller ones for whom the duties really are devastating. This is exactly what has happened."

Do you actually think about things geoffrey or do you just take opposition to whatever you percieve as coming from the 'left'?

Emerson is the most qualified person to secure a deal on softwood with the right government behind him. He needs to be Trade minister, it is the best interest of Canada and BC forestry workers.

Do you have anything to base this on, or are you just repeating the party line?

It's not correct because it's the party line, it is the party line because it is correct.

[Hollus]

It's not correct because it's the party line, it is the party line because it is correct.

What the hell does that mean?

The question is not why is it the party line, the question is why is it correct.

[cybercoma]

It's not correct because it's the party line, it is the party line because it is correct.

What the hell does that mean?

The question is not why is it the party line, the question is why is it correct.

"Emerson is the most qualified person to secure a deal on softwood lumber"

Damn near impossible to accomplish that from the Liberal benches when the Conservatives are in power.

[Hollus]

It's not correct because it's the party line, it is the party line because it is correct.

What the hell does that mean?

The question is not why is it the party line, the question is why is it correct.

"Emerson is the most qualified person to secure a deal on softwood lumber"

Damn near impossible to accomplish that from the Liberal benches when the Conservatives are in power.

Why is he the most qualified? Because he recieves a pension from a company that benefits from the disputes continuence?

[cybercoma]

...because he's the MP of the area most closely related to the issue?

[Hicksey]

Can I ask an honest question?

Where were these questions/concerns when Emerson was a Liberal MP?

Let's be clear. I'm not happy with the defection by any means. I think the last thing the CPC needs is recycled Liberals. It seems a little hypocritical to me that people only started asking now that he's a conservative MP.

[Hollus]

...because he's the MP of the area most closely related to the issue?

So your saying that because he's from BC, the area affected most by the softwood dispute, this means he's the most qualified to make the deal? No matter if he's personaly vested in the outcome? No matter if his decisions reflect the interests of Canfor not BCers?

[cybercoma]

...because he's the MP of the area most closely related to the issue?

So your saying that because he's from BC, the area affected most by the softwood dispute, this means he's the most qualified to make the deal? No matter if he's personaly vested in the outcome? No matter if his decisions reflect the interests of Canfor not BCers?

Obviously people think he's the best choice for MP in the area. Afterall, they did vote for him.

[geoffrey]

...because he's the MP of the area most closely related to the issue?

So your saying that because he's from BC, the area affected most by the softwood dispute, this means he's the most qualified to make the deal? No matter if he's personaly vested in the outcome? No matter if his decisions reflect the interests of Canfor not BCers?

Obviously people think he's the best choice for MP in the area. Afterall, they did vote for him.

Exactly, his constituants voted in a plurality for him. Thats what I don't understand. They elected the guy they don't like? Unbelievable. Reflects poorly on the common sense of Vancouverites.

[Hollus]

...because he's the MP of the area most closely related to the issue?

So your saying that because he's from BC, the area affected most by the softwood dispute, this means he's the most qualified to make the deal? No matter if he's personaly vested in the outcome? No matter if his decisions reflect the interests of Canfor not BCers?

Obviously people think he's the best choice for MP in the area. Afterall, they did vote for him.

Exactly, his constituants voted in a plurality for him. Thats what I don't understand. They elected the guy they don't like? Unbelievable. Reflects poorly on the common sense of Vancouverites.

So theres no reason to question the ethics of elected MPs? Who cares if he was elected by the Vancouver/Kingsway riding, it is'nt exactly the forestry capital of BC, the job loses are not happening there.

[Hollus]

Can I ask an honest question?

Where were these questions/concerns when Emerson was a Liberal MP?

Let's be clear. I'm not happy with the defection by any means. I think the last thing the CPC needs is recycled Liberals. It seems a little hypocritical to me that people only started asking now that he's a conservative MP.

Im not a liberal, and had I'd accessed this info sooner I would have brought it up then.

Emmerson signed a public decleration of recusal in 2004 that stated:

"In order to prevent the appearance of a conflict of interest situation from arising, I have undertaken, in the exercise of my duties and responsibilities to abstain from any participation in discussions or decision-making processes involving direct dealings with Canfor Corporation, its subsidiaries and affiliates."

I'd say his former employer- being the largest forestry company in Canada- is directly involved.