On the 4th Aniversary of Sept. 11th...

[WordsAreDead]

My question is this: What has the U.S. done to prevent further terrorist attacks on it's own soil?

If anyone can tell me, it would be greatly appreciated, because in my opinion, the only thing the U.S. has done is perpetuate the middle-east's growing dissent against America.

And to tell you the truth, I do not blame them at all. The U.S. has done nothing but harm to the Arab nations, and although their means of expressing their anger are exceedingly violent, I can see exactly what they're mad about. (<-- The Arabs, that is.)

[B. Max]

My question is this: What has the U.S. done to prevent further terrorist attacks on it's own soil?

If anyone can tell me, it would be greatly appreciated, because in my opinion, the only thing the U.S. has done is perpetuate the middle-east's growing dissent against America.

And to tell you the truth, I do not blame them at all. The U.S. has done nothing but harm to the Arab nations, and although their means of expressing their anger are exceedingly violent, I can see exactly what they're mad about.

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Well, file 13 your opinion, and give us the facts about what the US has done to harm arab nations. Stopping the islamic butchers from driving irael into the sea as part of their world wide conquest of one creating one islamic state after another is not a reason.

[B. Max]

My question is this: What has the U.S. done to prevent further terrorist attacks on it's own soil?

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They just whacked another 156 terrorists who won't be planting any bombs anywhere.

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/2005/09/10/1211143-ap.html

[Montgomery Burns]

The Bush administration has toppled two dictatorships; liberated 50 million people; the first ever free elections in Afghanistan and Iraq; no terrorist attack on US soil in 4 years; Libya gave up its WMD program; Syria bounced out of the formerly occupied Lebanon; Pakistan's Dr. Khan out of the nuclear weapon-selling business; a former enemy has become a US ally (although I am not sure if I entirely trust Pakistan); Kuwaiti women can now vote; Egypt's Mubarak saying that he would allow opposition in elections; Al Qaeda hurting and Osama hiding in fear only to make an annual video appearance; Saddam in jail and his two Spawns of Satan dead, and the world now knows (despite the liberal media trying to bury the story) how thoroughly corrupt the UN is.

Yep, nothing good has happened since 9-11.

[Montgomery Burns]

My question is this: What has the U.S. done to prevent further terrorist attacks on it's own soil?

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They just whacked another 156 terrorists who won't be planting any bombs anywhere.

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/2005/09/10/1211143-ap.html

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How dare you refer to them as terrorists?

They are insurgents, or militants, or activists (as Agent France Presse calls them), or Minute Men (as Michael Moore calls them).

They are FREEDOM FIGHTERS!!

I am outraged at your lack of moral bankruptcy.....er, I mean your lack of political correctness. :angry:

How dare you call a spade a spade?

[WordsAreDead]

Well, file 13 your opinion, and give us the facts about what the US has done to harm arab nations. Stopping the islamic butchers from driving irael into the sea as part of their world wide conquest of one creating one islamic state after another is not a reason.

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Islamic butchers? Exuse me, but last time I checked, the Israelites had the people of Palestine in prison conditions, didn't allow them to live on THEIR land, and killed them without remorse or reason.

So you can kaibosh that idea you ignorant redneck.

[WordsAreDead]

The Bush administration has toppled two dictatorships; liberated 50 million people; the first ever free elections in Afghanistan and Iraq; no terrorist attack on US soil in 4 years; Libya gave up its WMD program; Syria bounced out of the formerly occupied Lebanon; Pakistan's Dr. Khan out of the nuclear weapon-selling business; a former enemy has become a US ally (although I am not sure if I entirely trust Pakistan); Kuwaiti women can now vote; Egypt's Mubarak saying that he would allow opposition in elections; Al Qaeda hurting and Osama hiding in fear only to make an annual video appearance; Saddam in jail and his two Spawns of Satan dead, and the world now knows (despite the liberal media trying to bury the story) how thoroughly corrupt the UN is.

Yep, nothing good has happened since 9-11. 

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1. No one asked the U.S. to liberate anyone. In fact, the UN explicitly forbade it. Therefore, the U.S. has been involved in an ILLEGAL and UNPREEMPTED war for years, not only costing the American citizens money, but the whole world.

2. Osama bin Laden has NOT BEEN CAUGHT YET. Why? Because the U.S. is too incompentent to find him

3. Lebannon was NOT occupied by Syria. And when the Syrians living in the south of Lebannon did decide to leave, it was not at the hands of the Americans.

[WordsAreDead]

How dare you refer to them as terrorists? 

They are FREEDOM FIGHTERS!!   

How dare you call a spade a spade? 

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Desipte your obvious sarcasm, you are exactly right.

Terrorism is what people who have been opressed for generations resort to. It is just what they do.

If you were under occupation by an over-zealous, U.S. sponsored, terrorizing nation (I.E. Israel), what would YOU do to get your point across? Talk it out? Reason? No. Because that wouldn't work.

That's why they go to such extremes, and to put it bluntly, anything the U.S. gets done to them by the Arab race, they deserve every ounce of it. They've had it coming for years, and until they realize that the whole world does NOT need to be under their form of government, they will CONTINUE to get terrorized, and will CONTINUE to be HATED globally.

[Argus]

Well, file 13 your opinion, and give us the facts about what the US has done to harm arab nations. Stopping the islamic butchers from driving irael into the sea as part of their world wide conquest of one creating one islamic state after another is not a reason.

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Islamic butchers? Exuse me, but last time I checked, the Israelites had the people of Palestine in prison conditions, didn't allow them to live on THEIR land, and killed them without remorse or reason.

So you can kaibosh that idea you ignorant redneck.

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The life of the Palestinians under Israeli occupation was really no worse than the life of the average Arab in nearby Syria (for example), or Lebanon prior to the Intifada. During the Intifada things got worse (of course) but probalby not as bad as they would have gotten during a similar violent, revolutionary experience in any Arab nation (see Hama, city of, for how Syria treated a rebelious population).

[Argus]

My question is this: What has the U.S. done to prevent further terrorist attacks on it's own soil?

If anyone can tell me, it would be greatly appreciated, because in my opinion, the only thing the U.S. has done is perpetuate the middle-east's growing dissent against America.

And to tell you the truth, I do not blame them at all. The U.S. has done nothing but harm to the Arab nations, and although their means of expressing their anger are exceedingly violent, I can see exactly what they're mad about. (<-- The Arabs, that is.)

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All nations do the best they can to further their own aims, be it at the expense of other nations or not. There are no choir boys out there.

The reason the Arab nations have suffered under such conditions is their incompetent, criminal, violent, corrupt governments. If they want to blame anyone for their living conditions they should blame their own governments. If they want to bomb anyone they should bomb their own governments and their security apparatus.

Snivelling about it being someone else's fault is something the Arabs have done far too much of. It's not the fault of the United States that Arab nations are crippled by a backward religion

[Argus]

Terrorism is what people who have been opressed for generations resort to. It is just what they do.

Nonsense. It's what fanatics do. Try to differentiate between terrorism and guerrila war. The enemy of people interested in more competent, more humane government in the US is their own leaders. How do they help their case, then, by blowing up markets and buses?

If you were under occupation by an over-zealous, U.S. sponsored, terrorizing nation (I.E. Israel), what would YOU do to get your point across? Talk it out? Reason? No. Because that wouldn't work.

Maybe they should try it first. Maybe they should look into peaceful protest. Blowing up pizza parlors full of teenagers is hardly a way to endeer yourself to a powerful neighbour.

That's why they go to such extremes, and to put it bluntly, anything the U.S. gets done to them by the Arab race, they deserve every ounce of it. They've had it coming for years,

Why? Because Arabs cling to a 6th century religion which has halted their social and scientific development centuries behind the rest of the world? Is it the fault of the US that while Americans and Indians and Japanese and Chinese are studying engineering most Muslims university students are studying - the Koran?

[theloniusfleabag]

Dear Argus,

Maybe they should try it first. Maybe they should look into peaceful protest.

It's been tried. The book I recommended, "Intifada", deals with a lot of how the 'peaceful protests' turned into violent protests, and there is certainly fault on both sides for it.

[WordsAreDead]

Why? Because Arabs cling to a 6th century religion which has halted their social and scientific development centuries behind the rest of the world? Is it the fault of the US that while Americans and Indians and Japanese and Chinese are studying engineering most Muslims university students are studying - the Koran?

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There is no question that the Arabs are in fact crippled by their religion. But what I find amusing is your lack of recognition of the fact that over half of the American population is one denomination of Christianity or another. The current American government's value system is rooted in the 1st Century A.D.

So when it comes to religious shackles, the U.S. is right up there with the "best" of them.

[Argus]

Why? Because Arabs cling to a 6th century religion which has halted their social and scientific development centuries behind the rest of the world? Is it the fault of the US that while Americans and Indians and Japanese and Chinese are studying engineering most Muslims university students are studying - the Koran?

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There is no question that the Arabs are in fact crippled by their religion. But what I find amusing is your lack of recognition of the fact that over half of the American population is one denomination of Christianity or another. The current American government's value system is rooted in the 1st Century A.D.

So when it comes to religious shackles, the U.S. is right up there with the "best" of them.

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This, of course, is nonsense. There is as much barbarism in the Bible as in the Korean, or at least, there is plenty of it. But there is simply no support anywhere among any sizeable group of Christians to accept such barbarism or inject it into todays society. Contrast that with the Arab world, where the Korean is a guide for how to live their lives, where the greatest political pressure is not for freedom and democracy, but for more fundamentalist governments which will put Sharia law in place.

As for the current administration, I have my doubts Bush even believes in the Bible. He makes mouth noises about abortion and such but that's to please the religious right. I doubt he cares one way or another, any more than his father did.

[PocketRocket]

My question is this: What has the U.S. done to prevent further terrorist attacks on it's own soil?

Well, they've instituted a GREAT colour scheme; "Orange Alert", "Yellow Alert" etc.

This allows the powers-that-be to throw a good scare into the American public whenever it suits their needs.

[WordsAreDead]

My question is this: What has the U.S. done to prevent further terrorist attacks on it's own soil?

Well, they've instituted a GREAT colour scheme; "Orange Alert", "Yellow Alert" etc.

This allows the powers-that-be to throw a good scare into the American public whenever it suits their needs.

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Ooh this is true. I'll give you that one.

[WordsAreDead]

This, of course, is nonsense. There is as much barbarism in the Bible as in the Korean, or at least, there is plenty of it. But there is simply no support anywhere among any sizeable group of Christians to accept such barbarism or inject it into todays society.

Who the hell are you to deem my statements nonsense? If you're too blind to see the BS the U.S. government is doing, than you are obviously beyond hope.

Next, Korean is a race, not a book of scriptures. I believe you are reffering to the Qu'ran. Get your stuff straight before you attempt to make a coherent argument.

Finally, I realize that no one will dare say that this was a religious war until Bush specifically comes out and says "This was a religious war," but regardless of your ignorance, it is perfectly clear that Bush thinks "the American way," (i.e. Christianity, Democracy, McDonald's) is the only way to live by. And until you pull your head out of the ground, I'm afraid you won't realize that.

[B. Max]

Well, file 13 your opinion, and give us the facts about what the US has done to harm arab nations. Stopping the islamic butchers from driving irael into the sea as part of their world wide conquest of one creating one islamic state after another is not a reason.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Islamic butchers? Exuse me, but last time I checked, the Israelites had the people of Palestine in prison conditions, didn't allow them to live on THEIR land, and killed them without remorse or reason.

So you can kaibosh that idea you ignorant redneck.

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Ok, but what about the those pesky facts.

[WordsAreDead]

Ok, but what about the those pesky facts.

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Can you honestly say that the way the Jews treat the Palestinians is not barbaric and inhumane? They are doing exactly what was done to them by the Germans to the Palestinians. And where you got that "world wide Islamic state" BS is a mystery to me. The Jews have robbed the Palestinians of their land, and if anyone is in "world-wide conquest" mode, it's the Jews.

If you deny that, you really are too ignorant to have an intelligent conversation with.

[Argus]

This, of course, is nonsense. There is as much barbarism in the Bible as in the Korean, or at least, there is plenty of it. But there is simply no support anywhere among any sizeable group of Christians to accept such barbarism or inject it into todays society.

Who the hell are you to deem my statements nonsense?

Your statement is nonsense or not, and the only one to judge it is the reader. That's me.

If you're too blind to see the BS the U.S. government is doing, than you are obviously beyond hope.

I can certainly see the BS the US government is doing. But you are suggesting it is a religious government, in effect based on some kind of fundamentalist Christianity, and that is nonsense. The Republican Party certainly has a veneer of Christian observance but it is altogether very clear that very, very few of its members, including Bush and Cheney, have any particular religious dedication.

Next, Korean is a race, not a book of scriptures. I believe you are reffering to the Qu'ran. Get your stuff straight before you attempt to make a coherent argument.

Is it your belief that sneering at typos constitutes a valid rebuttal?

Finally, I realize that no one will dare say that this was a religious war until Bush specifically comes out and says "This was a religious war," but regardless of your ignorance, it is perfectly clear that Bush thinks "the American way," (i.e. Christianity, Democracy, McDonald's) is the only way to live by. And until you pull your head out of the ground, I'm afraid you won't realize that.

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Bush is not a religious man, no matter what he says. He may well believe the American way is better than, for want of a better term "The Arab war" but then, a ton of people would believe the same of the "Canadian Way", or for that matter "The French Way" or the "Danish Way", or the "Japanese Way".

So?

[Argus]

Ok, but what about the those pesky facts.

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Can you honestly say that the way the Jews treat the Palestinians is not barbaric and inhumane?

On what scale? Compared to Canada and the United States? Or compared to Syria and Libya and Iran?

They are doing exactly what was done to them by the Germans to the Palestinians

This, of course, is nonsense. Utterly silly nonsense.

Now when the Israelis force them all into work camps and start executing them by the millions you come back and make the comparison again.

And where you got that "world wide Islamic state" BS is a mystery to me. The Jews have robbed the Palestinians of their land, and if anyone is in "world-wide conquest" mode, it's the Jews.

Ahh, do I see a light of underestanding at the end of the tunnel, or smell something bad? Are you going to talk about the worldwide Jewish conspiracy to conquer the world next?

The "Jews" did not rob the Palestinians of anything. I find it interesting that the same sorts of people who rant about the US not following the United Nations dictates dismiss the fact that it was the United Nations which created the state of Israel on a tiny pocket of a vast Arab middle east. The Arabs attacked them, and lost - badly - repeatedly. Too bad for them.

If you deny that, you really are too ignorant to have an intelligent conversation with.

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I have a feeling you're not going to have to worry about people who meet your standards of intelligent conversation, as I doubt you are long for this forum.

[WordsAreDead]

Ok, but what about the those pesky facts.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Can you honestly say that the way the Jews treat the Palestinians is not barbaric and inhumane?

On what scale? Compared to Canada and the United States? Or compared to Syria and Libya and Iran?

They are doing exactly what was done to them by the Germans to the Palestinians

This, of course, is nonsense. Utterly silly nonsense.

Now when the Israelis force them all into work camps and start executing them by the millions you come back and make the comparison again.

And where you got that "world wide Islamic state" BS is a mystery to me. The Jews have robbed the Palestinians of their land, and if anyone is in "world-wide conquest" mode, it's the Jews.

Ahh, do I see a light of underestanding at the end of the tunnel, or smell something bad? Are you going to talk about the worldwide Jewish conspiracy to conquer the world next?

The "Jews" did not rob the Palestinians of anything. I find it interesting that the same sorts of people who rant about the US not following the United Nations dictates dismiss the fact that it was the United Nations which created the state of Israel on a tiny pocket of a vast Arab middle east. The Arabs attacked them, and lost - badly - repeatedly. Too bad for them.

If you deny that, you really are too ignorant to have an intelligent conversation with.

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I have a feeling you're not going to have to worry about people who meet your standards of intelligent conversation, as I doubt you are long for this forum.

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Well, your opinion is your opinion, no matter how uninformed and ignorant it may be.

[Argus]

Well, your opinion is your opinion, no matter how uninformed and ignorant it may be.

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You're just jealous because I'm sane.

[WordsAreDead]

You're just jealous because I'm sane.

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Haha, yeah, because a sane person believes in the American right. You think whatever you want there buddy. I won't say "I told you so" when the Americans end up destroying the Arab race.

[Montgomery Burns]

Well, file 13 your opinion, and give us the facts about what the US has done to harm arab nations. Stopping the islamic butchers from driving irael into the sea as part of their world wide conquest of one creating one islamic state after another is not a reason.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Islamic butchers? Exuse me, but last time I checked, the Israelites had the people of Palestine in prison conditions, didn't allow them to live on THEIR land, and killed them without remorse or reason.

So you can kaibosh that idea you ignorant redneck.

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What is this country called Palestine you speak of? I cannot find it on a map. Your silence about the butchery of the death cult of displaced Arabs from Jordan is telling...

Btw, I believe calling someone an "ignorant redneck" is called flaming.