If it couldn't get any worse!

[canadian_conservative]

He did kill people but that was more than 20 years ago. As for 25 % of his GDP on military, if you were being threatened for now reason besides for your oil by a country armed to it's teeth with nukes wouldnt you be spending lots on your military? Although he did have a history of killing people he doesnt anymore not indorectly anyway. I admire him for his courage to stand up to countries like the US not for how many people he has murdered.

[SirSpanky]

I guess that depends if you think that the reason the US doesn't like you is justified. Human rights violations, and letting your people starve should come before ak rifles. I'll bet if they spent that 25% on improving its citizen's lives, America wouldn't be so pissy.

And N. Korea doesn't have oil......

[canadian_conservative]

I guess that depends if you think that the reason the US doesn't like you is justified. Human rights violations, and letting your people starve should come before ak rifles. I'll bet if they spent that 25% on improving its citizen's lives, America wouldn't be so pissy.

And N. Korea doesn't have oil......

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Really are you shure they don't have oil? I am not going to argue because I am not sure myself if they do but I think they do. I guess I will have to look that oen up.

[Argus]

He did kill people but that was more than 20 years ago.  As for 25 % of his GDP on military, if you were being threatened for now reason besides for your oil by a country armed to it's teeth with nukes wouldnt you be spending lots on your military? Although he did have a history of killing people he doesnt anymore not indorectly anyway.  I admire him for his courage to stand up to countries like the US not for how many people he has murdered.

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Did you admire Hitler, too? Is your ignorance that absolute?

You know, usually when people bring Hitler into a conversation it's a gross exaggeration. In this case I am probably being unfair - to Hitler. No one with more than half a brain would not prefer to live under Hitler than under the maniac rulers of North Korea. Jews, perhaps. That's about it. I am aghast at the level of ignorance revealed by some of you here. It's as if it's 1939 and I'm hearing people say Hitler is actually not at all a bad fellow, and he's only got a big military out of fear of the British and French.

North Korea is the most despotic place on Earth. It may be the most despotic place there has ever been on Earth. It is worse than Hitler's Germany, worse than Stalin's Russia. It rivals Pol Pot's Cambodia, but that was relatively short-lived. North Koreans have been living under this brutal government for over fifty years now.

Do you have any conception of how many tens of thousands of men, women and children die in North Korea's prison camps every year? How many hundreds of thousands if not millions die of starvation and related illnesses every year?

And you admire him?

Death, Terror, in North Korea's Gulags

Atrocities at North Korean Gulags

[Guest eureka]

Only too true, Argus.

[canadian_conservative]

He did kill people but that was more than 20 years ago.  As for 25 % of his GDP on military, if you were being threatened for now reason besides for your oil by a country armed to it's teeth with nukes wouldnt you be spending lots on your military? Although he did have a history of killing people he doesnt anymore not indorectly anyway.  I admire him for his courage to stand up to countries like the US not for how many people he has murdered.

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Did you admire Hitler, too? Is your ignorance that absolute?

You know, usually when people bring Hitler into a conversation it's a gross exaggeration. In this case I am probably being unfair - to Hitler. No one with more than half a brain would not prefer to live under Hitler than under the maniac rulers of North Korea. Jews, perhaps. That's about it. I am aghast at the level of ignorance revealed by some of you here. It's as if it's 1939 and I'm hearing people say Hitler is actually not at all a bad fellow, and he's only got a big military out of fear of the British and French.

North Korea is the most despotic place on Earth. It may be the most despotic place there has ever been on Earth. It is worse than Hitler's Germany, worse than Stalin's Russia. It rivals Pol Pot's Cambodia, but that was relatively short-lived. North Koreans have been living under this brutal government for over fifty years now.

Do you have any conception of how many tens of thousands of men, women and children die in North Korea's prison camps every year? How many hundreds of thousands if not millions die of starvation and related illnesses every year?

And you admire him?

Death, Terror, in North Korea's Gulags

Atrocities at North Korean Gulags

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Don't call me ignorant because my oppinion differs from your argus you can get banned for that, I am not bashing you for dis likeing him am I. Last time I heard it was my right on Canada to express who I liek and dislike.

To answer your question No I don't like Hitler nor did I ever or ever will. Kim Jongs father was the murderer not him the only reason his people are dying is because he spends money on his military so he does not kill his people in directly. You can blame the americans partly for that. Just becasue Kim would not have to spend all his money on military if Jong didn't have to worry about US Marines south or the parralel staking out ready for an attack.

By the way Kim Jong doesn't have death camps or the US would have invaded them already along with NATO and United Nations Forces.

Now let me say somthing you may keep on stating your oppinion and arguing with me but please don't call me ignorant, it's my oppiion and nothing you can do or say will change it I am the only one who can. Their are alot of people who do like him liek just a few months ago on the national a guy was asked who he admires the most and he said Kim Jon II.

Yes I do admire Kim Jong II he has done nothing wrong.

Their I have stated my oppinion politily without bashing yours, I hope you can do the same.

[canadian_conservative]

Also about your links, I have read htrough them and those are jails where people are sent to for crimes. Some countries have different methods of justice theirs is torture, not that I am condoning it but many countries do it. Like the United States guntanamo bay (excuse my spelling) thats a torture camp it mite as well be prisoners are heled their without a fair trial for years and Canada contributes to it!! when we capture a suspected terrorists on missions in Afganistain are troops hand them over to US top brass adn they get shipped to guantanamo bay.

[Argus]

  I admire him for his courage to stand up to countries like the US not for how many people he has murdered.

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Do you have any conception of how many tens of thousands of men, women and children die in North Korea's prison camps every year? How many hundreds of thousands if not millions die of starvation and related illnesses every year?

And you admire him?

Don't call me ignorant because my oppinion differs from your argus you can get banned for that,

I did not say you were ignorant, though I'm sure the thought occurs to anyone reading this. No, I will say your statement is ignorant.

I am not bashing you for dis likeing him am I.  Last time I heard it was my right on Canada to express who I liek and dislike.

That's certainly true. You can admire Hitler if you want, and you can state your admiration for Hitler and his method of governing. I am free, however, to question the intelligence, knowledge or motivation behind a love of Adolph Hilter. In this case you have stated an admiration for a man who is arguably worse than Adoph Hitler. Needless to say, I have to question what produces such admiration for a mass murdering butcher. Is it that you approve of torture and mass murder?

By the way Kim Jong doesn't have death camps or the US would have invaded them already along with NATO and United Nations Forces.

And why would they do that? First you seem to state the US is evil, and admire Kim Jong largely because he is standing up to them. Now you seem to believe the US is the guardian of freedom and humanity, willing to risk nuclear war to protect it anywhere on Earth. Your opinions seem to be extraordinarily confused.

Now let me say somthing you may keep on stating your oppinion and arguing with me but please don't call me ignorant, it's my oppiion

Perhaps, but an opinion based on what seems nearly complete ignorance is not an opinion of any particular value, nor can I express much respect for anyone who not only makes such statements out of ignorance but then ignoring all reality and evidence goes on to restate them.

and nothing you can do or say will change it I am the only one who can.  Their are alot of people who do like him liek just a few months ago on the national a guy was asked who he admires the most and he said Kim Jon II.

And if a guy said space monkeys lived up his arse would you believe that too?

Yes I do admire Kim Jong II he has done nothing wrong.

You know what? I think I've finally found a statement bizarre enough to go into my sig. I think I will use that as a glorious demonstration of the amazing ignorance which can exist in Canada about what is going on in the world.

I would also ask, and I know I'm not the first, to change your nic to remove the term "conservative" as I feel it an insult to have you and your opinions in any way related to me and mine.

[Argus]

Also about your links, I have read htrough them and those are jails where people are sent to for crimes.  Some countries have different methods of justice theirs is torture, not that I am condoning it but many countries do it.  Like the United States guntanamo bay (excuse my spelling) thats a torture camp it mite as well be prisoners are heled their without a fair trial for years and Canada contributes to it!! when we capture a suspected terrorists on missions in Afganistain are troops hand them over to US top brass adn they get shipped to guantanamo bay.

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I have read many ignorant statements and beliefs. Ignorance isn't neccesarily a bad thing. We are all ignorant of some things. No one can know everything, after all.

But an ignorant statement, an ignorant opinion which determinedly ignores reality and evidence is in another category entirely. And has to make one wonder if it's real or merely trolling.

To shrug off North Korea's death camps where entire families are worked and beaten to death over trifling political missteps by comparing them to prisons in other countries or Guantanamo Bay is so eye-poppingly preposterous it threatens to render anyone with more than half a brain cell nearly dazed.

Someone suggested earlier you chose your name in order to mock conservatives and make us look bad. I am beginning to think they were right.

[Leader Circle]

Also about your links, I have read htrough them and those are jails where people are sent to for crimes.  Some countries have different methods of justice theirs is torture, not that I am condoning it but many countries do it.  Like the United States guntanamo bay (excuse my spelling) thats a torture camp it mite as well be prisoners are heled their without a fair trial for years and Canada contributes to it!! when we capture a suspected terrorists on missions in Afganistain are troops hand them over to US top brass adn they get shipped to guantanamo bay.

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I have read many ignorant statements and beliefs. Ignorance isn't neccesarily a bad thing. We are all ignorant of some things. No one can know everything, after all.

But an ignorant statement, an ignorant opinion which determinedly ignores reality and evidence is in another category entirely. And has to make one wonder if it's real or merely trolling.

To shrug off North Korea's death camps where entire families are worked and beaten to death over trifling political missteps by comparing them to prisons in other countries or Guantanamo Bay is so eye-poppingly preposterous it threatens to render anyone with more than half a brain cell nearly dazed.

Someone suggested earlier you chose your name in order to mock conservatives and make us look bad. I am beginning to think they were right.

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I think he is either THELIB or his brother...just haven't figured it out!

[theloniusfleabag]

Dear Argus,

Someone suggested earlier you chose your name in order to mock conservatives and make us look bad. I am beginning to think they were right.

Greg has suggested that we all avoid 'feeding the troll'.

[canadian_conservative]

Look leaders circle I thpught we settled are differences a while ago about this. I am merly stating my oppinion that I admire Kim Jong not for his murderes but for standing up. I don;t need a dozen people on my back just because I don't agree with them. I am gettign quite sick of this forum and it's ignorant members who think that they are the only ones here who can say what they want without anything happening.

How is Kim JOng worse than Hitler, sombody please say somthing about this because this is absurd. Hitler declared war on half the world. Slaughterd billions (literaly) of Jewish people in death camps, used bio weapons on soldiers and besides slaughtering Jews and citizens he killed a generation of not only Canadian soldiers but British, AMerican, Free French, Polish, Soviet, and many other somdiers that went out to kick his ass for what he was doing. NOW LAY OFF ME AND TELL ME THAT KIM JONG IS WORSE THAN HITLER? BECAUSE I CAN GET YOU MORE FACTS ABOUT WW2 THAT YOU PROBABLY NEVER NEW.

I don;t care if you block me but I am going to say somthing to you all, you are all ignorant bastards.

[canadian_conservative]

think he is either THELIB or his brother...just haven't figured it out!

Nope, I just have my oppinions, you just don;t like it when somone dissagrees with you because your paumpus and your arrogant.

[Argus]

Look leaders circle I thpught we settled are differences a while ago about this.  I am merly stating my oppinion that I admire Kim Jong not for his murderes but for standing up.

Just like Hitler, right? Hitler stood up to people, too. So did Joseph Stalin. You admire Kim Jong the mass murdering butcher because he stands up to the Americans? Hitler stood up to the world. You must really admire him.

  I am gettign quite sick of this forum and it's ignorant members who think that they are the only ones here who can say what they want without anything happening.

Good. Leave.

How is Kim JOng worse than Hitler, sombody please say somthing about this because this is absurd.  Hitler declared war on half the world.  Slaughterd billions (literaly) of Jewish people in death camps, used bio weapons on soldiers

Sputtering nonsense. Again, either crass ignorance or a very persistent effort at trolling.

BECAUSE I CAN GET YOU MORE FACTS ABOUT WW2 THAT YOU PROBABLY NEVER NEW.

Suuuure you can. Even if you have to make them up.

I don;t care if you block me but I am going to say somthing to you all, you are all ignorant bastards.

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Should we get you banned now for using obscenities, troll boy?

[canadian_conservative]

Look leaders circle I thpught we settled are differences a while ago about this.  I am merly stating my oppinion that I admire Kim Jong not for his murderes but for standing up.

Just like Hitler, right? Hitler stood up to people, too. So did Joseph Stalin. You admire Kim Jong the mass murdering butcher because he stands up to the Americans? Hitler stood up to the world. You must really admire him.

Nope as I stated I dont are you blind?

  I am gettign quite sick of this forum and it's ignorant members who think that they are the only ones here who can say what they want without anything happening.

Good. Leave.

not anytime soon but thanks!

How is Kim JOng worse than Hitler, sombody please say somthing about this because this is absurd.  Hitler declared war on half the world.  Slaughterd billions (literaly) of Jewish people in death camps, used bio weapons on soldiers

Sputtering nonsense. Again, either crass ignorance or a very persistent effort at trolling.

I beleive a troll is a person who replies to initiate a a fight and right now you keep replying to my letters so you are trolling.

BECAUSE I CAN GET YOU MORE FACTS ABOUT WW2 THAT YOU PROBABLY NEVER NEW.

Suuuure you can. Even if you have to make them up.

Well with a history degree in my belt and a grade 10 history teacher, I shoudl know my history. Your probably working at mcdonalds at minimum wage.

I don;t care if you block me but I am going to say somthing to you all, you are all ignorant bastards.

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Should we get you banned now for using obscenities, troll boy?

As i stated above you keep replying to my messages so you must be the troll. I dont know why you 3 care so much about who I admire and who I dont why is that so important to you? Who made you king of Canada so you could tell me who I have the right to like? tell me? actually dont im sick of this bickering. I have been to 2 forums besides this one and still am at it: canadaka and canadian Content and I have never met so many arogant people who troll and expect people to agree with them or get banned untill i came to this one.

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[Guest eureka]

I admire Kim Jong, too. I admire all little men who make it big. Dwarfism triumphs and Hobbits throw off the opressors. So what if Jong had to spill a little blood. It was not my blood.

[cybercoma]

I admire Kim Jong, too. I admire all little men who make it big. Dwarfism triumphs and Hobbits throw off the opressors. So what if Jong had to spill a little blood. It was not my blood.

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hahaha, where the hell did this post come from? 10/10!

[Argus]

I admire Kim Jong, too. I admire all little men who make it big. Dwarfism triumphs and Hobbits throw off the opressors. So what if Jong had to spill a little blood. It was not my blood.

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Actually, Hitler was kind of short too...

[canadian_conservative]

I admire Kim Jong, too. I admire all little men who make it big. Dwarfism triumphs and Hobbits throw off the opressors. So what if Jong had to spill a little blood. It was not my blood.

Yikes!!! I didnt even go that for, that post is kinda f.....

You have to give me credit now agus even im not that sick

[SirSpanky]

I admire Kim Jong, too. I admire all little men who make it big. Dwarfism triumphs and Hobbits throw off the opressors. So what if Jong had to spill a little blood. It was not my blood.

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I think they kinda picked the fight actually. Poor warlord just wanted his ring back. He was just trying to get rid of those damn arrogant elves, with their "most beautiful race" propoganda.