Deporting Criminals

[Community Advocate]

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Carnes will now be held in custody for a deportation hearing. It will likely take at least a month for the legal machinery to process Carnes's departure back to California to stand trial.

His punishment could theoretically be more severe than those usually meted out in Canadian courts.

"I believe he could face capital punishment," said Curran.

However, it is normal for Canadian courts to require an assurance that anyone extradited or deported for a crime does not face the death penalty.

So before he goes to trial in the state where he allegedly committed this murder, why is it up to us to ensure that this state's laws can not be enforced on this criminal?

I'm not for the death penalty myself, but I don't understand how one country can interfere in another country's laws and be made to bend them in order to get their criminal back for trial. Isn't that like extortion? We won't give him back unless you promise not to kill him?

I suppose it works the other way around too, where if a Canadian were to commit this crime in that state, we would be trying to interfere with the sentence of death penalty, because our laws do not include that punishment or consequence for Canadian criminals.

If this is the case, I would think that many criminals will be trying to make their way over the border so they can be saved from their state's death penaly. I know if I was a criminal facing the death penalty, I'd be doing all I could to get across that border into Canada.

[Borg]

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So before he goes to trial in the state where he allegedly committed this murder, why is it up to us to ensure that this state's laws can not be enforced on this criminal?

I'm not for the death penalty myself, but I don't understand how one country can interfere in another country's laws and be made to bend them in order to get their criminal back for trial. Isn't that like extortion? We won't give him back unless you promise not to kill him?

I suppose it works the other way around too, where if a Canadian were to commit this crime in that state, we would be trying to interfere with the sentence of death penalty, because our laws do not include that punishment or consequence for Canadian criminals.

If this is the case, I would think that many criminals will be trying to make their way over the border so they can be saved from their state's death penaly. I know if I was a criminal facing the death penalty, I'd be doing all I could to get across that border into Canada.

Ship him out - no need to waste our time and money.

Borg

[Community Advocate]

Ship him out - no need to waste our time and money.

Borg

But we can't do THAT! He has CRIMINAL'S RIGHTS!!!! HUMAN RIGHTS!!!!! VISITORS' RIGHTS!!!! IMMIGRANTS' RIGHTS!!!!

and what about his "PRIVACY RIGHTS"!!!!! ?????

I have trouble understanding how Canada can trump the laws of his own state by refusing to return him without guarantee of no death penalty.

[Borg]

But we can't do THAT! He has CRIMINAL'S RIGHTS!!!! HUMAN RIGHTS!!!!! VISITORS' RIGHTS!!!! IMMIGRANTS' RIGHTS!!!!

and what about his "PRIVACY RIGHTS"!!!!! ?????

I have trouble understanding how Canada can trump the laws of his own state by refusing to return him without guarantee of no death penalty.

Recognize your sarcasm.

It is simply a matter of realizing canada has been socially re-engineered to think that everyone has rights.

And no, not everyone does.

Break the rules or the laws - you should lose them - or perhaps I should say - the person should never attain them.

However, the liberals of this country have succeeded in allowing no one to be responsible for their actions. Someone else is always to blame.

So, if you do not want him shipped out, them ship him to Resolute Bay and tell him to survive or die. Perhaps that is better - less trouble in the long run. And we provide a meal for a white bear or two.

We are an arrogant country - deciding who has laws worthy of our approval.

Start shipping them out - immediately - and they will definitely stop coming.

Borg

Edited February 2, 2008 by Borg

[Rue]

I do not think its up to Canada to tell the U.S. or any nation what to do with their citizens if the crime was committed in their countries.

But then you see the debate going on now. Do we send Afghani terrrorists back to their own prisons?

I myself do not like the idea of presuming to tell other nations what to do. I would prefer if we want to enforce or advocate universal values we do so through international treaties and convince other countries to sign those treaties and we achieve our understandings through these treaties.

Edited February 2, 2008 by Rue

[Borg]

Snip - But then you see the debate going on now. Do we send Afghani terrrorists back to their own prisons? - Snip

The answer to your question - Yes.

Borg

[Muddy]

Send them back to the US as quick as possible. I don`t want to foot the bill or put innocent Canadians in harms way because of these violent thugs. The USA has a criminal justice system . End of story.