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  1. Caeser; You rant on about the USA, but at least the people in the USA are free to say what they please, even if it is about the government. In Cuba, these same people would be imprisoned or worse. Nobody dares speak out against Fidel, they know better. Every year Cubans are attempting to get to the US by the boat-load, so I guess it can't be as bad as you make out.

    Are you sure people are that free anymore in the USA???

    I would wager that there are many more Mexicans still sneaking into the USA to work illegally. Cubans are even poorer than the Mexicans ever were, So some people think the grass is greener on the other side. I have friends that have gone to visit in Cuba several times; the people are happy and friendly. Cuba is much better off than they were under the USA backed Batista government. Cuba is not invading any other countries.

    people are happy here in the US, too whats your point? cuba is a shithole they have almost non-exsistent personal freedom, thats why boatloads of em string together rafts and try to make it to florida. Have you ever lived in the US?

    Personal freedom eh?

    No they don't have the personal freedom to beat their wives, buy big trucks, or support imperialism. Boo hoo!

    They do however have the freedom to become doctors, to relax without starvation, and to care about the poor.

  2. she is still in the process. What are you; someone who like to look at naked young girls?

    It depends how young. :P

    Seriously though, women in many arab countries are not allowed to make decisions about whom they are marrying. They come to the west, marry who they please, and no the sky doesn't fall.

    Many women talk of being degraded, when naked. It is the christian values still entrenched in our culture that makes them feel this way. In the Amazon little girls run around completely naked all the time, and no, the sky doesn't fall.

    I could see some concern with the young woman's views if they were influenced by some 60 year old purve who just wants them in the sack. If these are truely her ideas then what is the big deal?

    Whatever it is, the sky will not fall.

  3. The intellegent young woman in the article raises a great point, however with religion still deeply woven into our culture, sexuality is likely always to be considered something for the closet.

    Intelligent young women????? Just a young child in too much hurry to grow up and explore her neew still developing toys.

    Too much of a hurry eh?

    She's either growing up or she isn't. If she can realize the hipocracy in the idea that she can't make her own decisions, she's grown up enough to make them.

  4. It's a complicated subject.

    If we allowed our childeren to be more involved in our communities (rather than droning away in classrooms), they would be much more mature about everything, including their sexuality and sexual choices. The intellegent young woman in the article raises a great point, however with religion still deeply woven into our culture, sexuality is likely always to be considered something for the closet.

  5. Their favorite terms are Nazi and fascist.

    Me thinks too many people here are members of Moveon.org.

    The hiliarious thing is that both Hitler and Mussolini were leftists. :P

    But that's what the left is all about. They chant their mantras and their catechisms because many of them seem incapable of rational thought.

    Leftists eh?

    A marriage between the corporations and the military, with rigidly controlled social structures, is much closer to that of the American government, than it is even to Stalin's regime.

    Call it irrational but then you'd be wrong.

  6. No not all, the vast majority.

    Prove it! Or at the very least, make an attempt to.

    Piss or get off the pot.......

    Okay if I could bet you money, and take you on a trip to Little Havana, I would. We both know that is not possible.

    The Americans don't keep tabs on Cuban immigrants the way that they do with mexicans, and the cuban government couldn't care less just as long as they stay in America. Either way there is absolutely know way to prove it on the internet except through rationality.

  7. I see that the Left is continuing its tradition of defending the world's most murderous tyrants - Stalin, Mao, Hussein,  Kim Il Jung, Castro, etc - as long as those tyrants oppose the government of the USA.

    And they wonder why Americans don't trust them when it comes to national security...

    With the exception of Kim Il Jung yeah! :D

    I also see that the right is continuing its tradition of demonizing anyone that it sees fit for economic reasons.

  8. Well, I have heard some pretty terrible stories about the history departments across our land.

    I thought that I would share what I have heard, and experienced in my own class rooms, to you all.

    Well.

    First of all, history in institutions is no longer about real history. It is about socially acceptable history.

    I cannot count the times where important events have been skipped completely because of the way they are peceived. For example, in my second year American history class we did not even talk about what George Washington did for the country. Instead, we talked about all of the terrible things the white man did to the slaves.

    It seems that the ability to teach history as it happened is wrong because it is dominated by white males the farther you go back.

    It seems clear to me that you think history is taught incorrectly because it does teach closer to the facts now days.

    You find it socially unacceptable to paint the real picture complete with blood and guts, because you more comfortable with white lolly pops, and jelly doughnuts.

    Too bad! :angry:

    The truth is that modern society is still very racially segregated, and a look at our historic influence on non-westerners is still very important!

    And yeah I wish they would tell the truth about George Washington! About how he kicked out George the 3rd to become George the 1st.

  9. You might want to look up some statistics on whether or not the ports are actually more dangerous now days, before you go worrying about everyone else's habbits.

    Aswell, considdering you were an experimental smoker, wouldn't you agree that it is rather unwise to compare your experiences with those of habitual smokers?

  10. These are your words right? Prove it!

    Unless I take you to the actual place how an I ever gonna prove to you exactly who these poeple are on the internet. Rationality sudgests that anyone who would want to leave a place with the necesity for life, to a place that does not provide that and has racist tendencies, is doing it for some sort of personal benefit.

    Yes. I'd rather be a poor black person in the States than a poor black person in a war torn African nation. Thats said, I fail to see the point of this line of thinking......

    Are we talking about Cuba or are we talking about Cuba? Either way you might take note that I metioned the words: "unless they had absolutely no choice". Allowing that some are criminals who have been released form prison by this horrible dictatorship do leave for America. Mind you in these aren't your steal a loaf of bread kind of 'criminals' that americans are used to :lol: .

    So in a nut (no pun) shell, you think the Cuban boat people are risking their lives becase:

    1. They are from the former "ruling class".

    yes not technically, but they are the decendants of these feudalistic people, but yes.

    2. They are being "tricked" by the Americans to come to Cuba, to hurt Castro.

    No, not tricked they are treated much better that most other minorities in the US, hence the source I posted from Dayton University. After that, just think "why would they treat Cubans so much better?".

    3. The ones that do come, are only white.

    Now again, can you prove any of your claims? You cast a blanket statement, but refuse to back it up.....whats that suppose to lead people intrested in this thread to think?

    That being said, I don't discount that some Cubans are political refuges, that some have dreams of political prosparity and that some Cuban boat people are infact white........

    No not all, the vast majority.

  11. Look up the Paris Commune. Or the anarcho-syndicalists. Maybe even read the manifesto, otherwise I'm sick of hearing ignorant reactionary statements.

    Likewise; I am tired of your ignorant remarks. Nothing in life is free. Someone has to pay for it. You need to face reality and some logic. Don't tell me to read some idealistic crap; show me a communist country where it is a utopia. Everyone gets any education they wish "FREE"; gets all the medical care they require; and can sit at home on their duffs collecting good support from government without working. You are dreaming. Time to wake up to reality; put forward a little effort and initiative of your own; get a good education and work hard at getting a good job and promotions.

    Actually I am a realist, it has nothing to do with ideology. The best societies are always the most liberal.

    If capital doesn't matter, then capital doesn't matter, no one has to pay for shit. You mean to tell me, that if you were given a choice you would sit around and do nothing all day? I garantee you that is not the case for most people, I personally enjoy getting work done. It's the fact that under capitalism, I have to do it in rediculously short periods of time, with rediculously small resources that pisses me off. The only reason so many people have no jobs and are suffering is because of the slave like qualities in the workplace.

    Edit: Actually forget all that manifesto stuff, you should look up 'historical materialism', that should give you a much better understanding of communism/anarchism than Marx ever could.

  12. I'm sorry I'm rather computer illiterate, otherwise I'd post a link but you might google this: "Immigration Law and the Racialization of Latina /Latino".

    Other than that I'd just like to ask you to think rationally for a sacond. Do you think anybody, unless they had absolutely no choice would want to become an american if they were of african decent? Especially southern?

  13. It seems to me as though Anti-Americanism in this country is out of control.

    Is it right for Canadians to hate America, as they do, because of their dislike for an administration. In 4 years it will be a new one and then what?

    What if the leader is another Bill Clinton who we can tolerate, do we just flip the switch back after years of constant attacks on the country as a whole?

    I agree this anti-bush banwaggon gets on my nerves aswell, considering that many Canadians are ignorant bastards that hate gays and non-christians just as viciously as bubba-jo.

  14. I would love to be able to work with animals, I would love to work with childern, there is all kinds of work I would love to do but am unable for lack of wanting to "slave" to buy the education. In a communist society, that education would be free and flexible.

    Where in any communist country do you believe that any education is free and "flexible" I am pretty sure that the authorities would decide if you have enough potential and there are jobs available for any select training. Your wages would be controlled and would not rival wages in a capitalistic country where you control your own fate and earning power. Help paying for an education is available in Canada. If you have excellent grades in school ; you can get awards, bursaries or grants towards your education. You can take out student loans to pay for your education.

    You can choose to take out a more minor degree; prove yourself to a company and there are many who will pay for your furthuring your education.

    Look up the Paris Commune. Or the anarcho-syndicalists. Maybe even read the manifesto, otherwise I'm sick of hearing ignorant reactionary statements.

    "Communism" is a stateless society, it would likely manifest itself in a network of communes, allowing for true democracy.

    When it comes to Canada, and North America in general, "Communism" is indeed impossible given the fact that we are largely still very religious. However a true socialism of some sort is still much preferable in my eyes to an imaginary golden age that only seems to be leading us towards another dark age. I believe though that most of western europe could pull communism off.

  15. How exactly do you think communism allows for more involvement by the people. You have to be kidding, whether its communism or capitalism there will be rich and poor, there will be decision makers (PRIVLEDGED) and the followers(MASS POPULATION).  At least capitalism allows you to get yourself ahead with ambition and hard work. Communism holds you back, the only way communism could be governed in Canada is by having 32,000,000 MPs. Talk about inefficient and silly.

    People have all the ability to be involved in the world, its just whether or not you get involved and speak through your actions rather than sitting on the sidelines complaining.

    Do you actually think I sit here all day and cry about capitalism? No, I do get on with my life, however I see it as very important that I take a look at how this world can be a better place.

    No I think you obviously do more with your life than sit around, but please communism is a notion that cannot be brought over from paper into reality. Capitalism works, if you work.

    Stay ignorant if you'd like to stay ignorant, but I gave up trying to argue with people who consider the USSR and other such state capitalist countries to be communist, quite a while ago.

  16. caesar, why are all those Cubans risking their lives to come to America, through Shark infested waters on poorly made rafts?

    Since Cuba is "safer" and has "public Healthcare", why would they go to America?

    Here's an intresting sight you should read before you continue to make an ass of yourself:

    Facts on Cuba

    Why would they try to cross to America on poorly made rafts risking their lives?

    Nah, it couldn't be because they are young foolish decendants of the former Cuban ruling class could it?

    Nah, it couldn't be because they are promised economic benefits by the Amercian government to make the Castro regime look bad, could it?

    I wonder how many of these people, are not of european decent? Probably none?

  17. Don't be too hard on Black Dog. He, and much of the Canadian left, have been in a tizzy since the Fox News Channel came to Canada. They are fearful that their dearly beloved hardcore socialist state-run, taxpayer-funded, Soviet Style CBC will lose even more ratings. The Communist Broadcasting Corporation has been openly attacking Fox News - once again showing the world that "tolerance" that the left is soooo noted for.

    I can see why the Fox News Channel is wildly popular in the US; it is so much better than its competitors. It actually is fair and balanced and *gasp* actually has as many conservatives as liberal.

    What a treat it is after listening to the lies and dirty tricks of the liberal media for years and years, from C-BS's phony memos, to CNN covering up Saddam's atrocities so they could keep their Baghdad bureau open. Then CNN's Eason Jordan resigned yesterday amid his outlandish accusations (with no proof!) of US troops targeting journalists for murder and torturing journalists.

    And who could ever forget CNN allowing two of John Kerry's advisors (James Carville and Paul Begala) to have their own show and promote the Kerry campaign; a blatant conflict of interest?

    After a 5 year ban by Canada's ruling Liberal Party, they were forced to allow the Fox News Channel into Canada after they showed their true intentions (the destgruction of the US as revenge for the fall of the USSR) by allowing Jihad TV (Al Jazeera) to broadcast in Canada. After that move, they no longer could keep Fox News out without openly admitting they were cheering for the Islamofascists to defeat the US.

    They could even call it Foxy News. Their female anchors are droolsville.

    ^^^

    Actually, Fox new's utter dishonesty is quite similar to that of a Soviet broadcast.

  18. Yes I belive in communism, however I only see capitalism as a reason by which I ever want to sit around and do nothing.

    Good luck with those ideals!! You are sure to make it far in todays world.

    In my little world, I would be an F1 driver, too bad I am 6'4 and too big to fit in the cockpit. I could find thousands of things to cry about, but I guess I ll deal with it and go on living without complaining about the how bad the world treated me. We are born into this world to deal with what we are given, I think the sad thing about this world is that too many people expect sunshine to be pumped up their butt from day 1.

    Guess what communism will never happen, so I guess we will see you in the welfare line, since you are paralyzed with inaction due to those dam capitalist ideals you were born into.

    You clearly missunderstood my point. He was claiming that communism without a command and control economy is unrealistic and that it means living a greedy life without ever lifting a finger. I was pointing out that it actually gives people more of a chance to be envolved with the world.

    Do you actually think I sit here all day and cry about capitalism? No, I do get on with my life, however I see it as very important that I take a look at how this world can be a better place.

  19. But the NDP are moderate center

    I do believe; they are considering moving more to the center but we certainly do NOT want any party more left than the NDP. You seem to lean towards Communism without the contol. /Sounds like you want to sit on your butt; do nothing and get paid for doing nothing. Get a life and get a job. Life is more interesting and fun when you are a contributing member of society.

    Yes I belive in communism, however I only see capitalism as a reason by which I ever want to sit around and do nothing.

    I would love to be able to work with animals, I would love to work with childern, there is all kinds of work I would love to do but am unable for lack of wanting to "slave" to buy the education. In a communist society, that education would be free and flexible.

  20. The right side of what? the communist party? Relatively speaking everyone is on the right side of something, but then that being said, the conservatives are ont he Left side of the political spectrum as the are further left then the Nationalist Party of Canada (I don't know if they still run). But we are not speaking in terms relative to political extreme we are using a standard right left assignment based on political views and the NDP sit Left of center. The Left is normally used ot describe Reformed Liberals or modern liberals, Progressives, social democrats and the more Radical groups like the Marxists. that being said, being a radical socialist is not what it takes to be on the left, and unless you can actually proove me wrong with something more then Dogmatic Bullshit you don't have a basis to make such a claim.

    The middle class is not a "Myth", The middle class as th emodern definition goes is distinct formt eh Burgoise as it does not own "Capital" but is distinct from the working class in that it is fairly well to do, your white collar workers..so clearly such a group exists, now not in the Marxian terms mind you, that being said in Marxist terms the conditions of the Workers should have continually deterioated, and not have becoem better off..and that is partially what caused the emergence of Social democrats.

    Now As for caesar being a complete fool, perhpas you should go back and read over the post again. hopefully you will then note that caesar never said the poor were lazy, caesar said we our all paying bills either to the rich, poor, and the lazy...not the rich and the lazy poor. But while we are on the matter, I know a guy who sits on his couch all day doesn;t go to school, doesn;t work, and sponges off his parents I woudl consider him un-employed because he is lazy. As wel I know people who are motivated to work at Mcdonalds, as they view it as a wise investment in their future, and in all honesty people who plan ahead and invest in their future are far from foolish, now people who bitch about the fools who work for $8 an hour, are the un wise ones...because technically you are just digging your own grave, and by the way I work for $9 an hour and actually have two Jobs...to pay may way through school. Now do i get to enjoy my wealth now, well I am on a computer now, I just finished a milkshake, and I am about to crawl into bed...yeha the glas can always be half empty but maybe it can be Half full as well? Now is education for just the rich, for peopel whose parents can pay for it, well I am paying for my own education and agian the government actually covers 80% of the cost for post secondary education only 20% of the cost is passed on to students through tuition, so actually the government is paying my way through school.

    Now onto that last blurb about accessories, does it matter? Does it matter that my computer is only 1.4 Ghz? Or that it runs on windows 2000 and not XP? The fact is it works, and really that is all that matters, I don't need or want the latest gadget or version 5.1.1.1.6, version 5.1.1.1.5 works just fine, but if people will buy it good for them, it doesn't affect me, in a bad way. The government doesn't need to be my everything and onlything...it jsut need sot supply a saftey net, and a helping hand..and yes that coudl use some work. That being said...that work can be done under a CAPITALIST system, I highly doubt it could be done under a centrally planned economy. And Like caesar, as a vancouverite I would ask that you refrain from telling me what I want,a nd like caesar I am very pleased at being presented a moderate centrest choice...as I couldn't see myself voting Liberal or NDP.

    To believe in the destruction of all competetive organs of society is to be left wing. The NDP are not left wing.

    To believe in the "freedom of competition" is to be right wing.

    The middle class does not exist, on the level that most people think. There are workers and bosses, those that own small businesses and do well at it are the only ones worthy of being considered middle class.

    No, in marxist terms the conditions of the workers would likely have deteriorated if such instances as the union movement had not come into existence.(notice how conditions are getting worse as the unions whither ;) ) How have working conditions improved since the 50's? All I see is more "freedom" to buy junk that doesn't last.

    I am sorry for calling ceasar a fool, the fact is that the vast majority of poor people are poor from the conditions in which they live, it has little to do with lack of effort. Anyone who is a happy worker at minimum wage is as foolish as a serf being happy under a king, or a slave being happy to a get slab of meat from the mansion. You sir are clearly one of those fools.

    "Now is education for just the rich, for peopel whose parents can pay for it, well I am paying for my own education and agian the government actually covers 80% of the cost for post secondary education only 20% of the cost is passed on to students through tuition, so actually the government is paying my way through school. "

    ^^Lie, show me some stats.

    All that being said you are clearly a right wing slave and you'd probably be quite happy in North Korea with you dreaded centrally planned economy, they'll provide for you exactly what you "want". :D

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