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You're telling me a PAL/RPAL requires an annual med/psych evaluations?
No it doesn't, and no doubt I could point to many other activities or jobs with higher risk to the public that could use yearly evals, but I get the feeling you would be ok with the government controlling most aspects of our lives so the point would be lost on you.
The fact is, hunters and legal firearms owners are statistically very safe. You don't have to accept it, like it, or believe it, but thankfully for the time being your opinion isn't going to count for much, for the time being, the facts count.
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McMaster study finds gun laws don't affect murder rate
Amazingly though groups still hang onto the registry,
"It’s important to recognize that in 2008, (according to the most recent statistics) 26 per cent of homicides (in Canada) were by rifles or shotguns, and the majority of firearm-related spousal homicides were by long-guns,” said Snider."
....thats sort of the point idiot, it the registry isn't preventing or solving any of those murders, and fyi, you cant register a sawed off shotgun, rifles and shotguns accounted for 17 percent of firearms homicides, handguns, registered for 80 years..60 percent. So as a percentage of all homicides long guns come in around 5.5 percent, but wait, theres more, of those how many were legal..
Well that number is around 2 percent, 2 percent of all homicides in this country are commited with a leaglly registered firearm on average about 12 out of 608 in 2008.
"Firearm homicides up 24% since 2002"
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/85-002-x/2009004/article/10929-eng.htm
It doesn't seem the registry is helping, and since the vast majority of gun crime in this country is commited with handungs and is gang related, just where do you think that increase is coming from...It just goes to show that no gun law will reduce already illegal gun activity, banning or restricting something that is already owned illegaly only punishes the law abiding, as does the gun registry. Wake up people.
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You do realize that behind the scenes, it's far more rigorous than that, right? Anyway, restricting the sale of clips that can fire over a certain number of shots is something that I definitely support. If you don't, that's fine, but I've heard of at least one instance before where it would have made a difference.
Im ok with keeping magazine capacity down, but the reality is that reloading from multiple magazines isn't difficult, how many shots were fired at dawson college? 60.. This ocurred after the capacities were reduced, it simply doesn't work. There are rules against making bombs too, but it is still exceedingly easy to do and none of the required materials are regulated, you simpy can't legistlate sanity. Sure, reduced magazine capacities might possibly maybe give someone a chance at escaping, but then limiting all cars to 60km/hr would CERTAINLY reduce road fatalities, but no one is asking for that..life is life, we take risks everyday. If some one is driving too fast and runs you down that is just as illegal as being shot, though being shot is a hell of a lot less likely.
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That's exactly what it looks like from here, as if WWWTT is crossing his or her fingers for a mass murder involving a gun in order to give an event to the socialists and communists to exploit for political purposes.
Anyone else notice how WWWTT has bounced around a few times in this thread? It seems as if in one breath he's stating that a gun registry or lack of one would have no impact on a future mass murder involving a gun, and then in another breath he's asking Shady, sarcastically and rhetorically, if he doesn't grasp the seemingly obvious connection between gun registries and mass murder shooting sprees.
"If you sinserly believe a shooting spree in Canada and the gun registry are completely unrelated to one another then you've got some serious issues man!"
wwwtt really doesn't know what he is talking about, clearly uneducated and seemingly not all that bright, it's pretty unfair for everyone to pile on.
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Oh and its perfectly ok to call or suggest that other people here are "morons"
WWWTT
In your case yes, fyi, Dawson college, registered firearm. Not that it matters to you.
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How many people have used a car to kill?
Who cares, tell us again how many murders the registry prevented.
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Ok let me explain.
In Canada(and most western democracies) you are innocent until proven guilty.Until you are convicted of a federal offence you do not have a criminal record hence you can not be called a criminal.
Actually it would be inflamatory to be called a criminal if you have not bein convicted of a criminal offence.
WWWTT
How did the registry prevent the last mass shooting in Canada?
Let me explain.
It didn't.
Now why don't you stop embarrassing yourself.
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Sorry you haven't been following the election since day one. "I'm not going to cut funding to health care or education" "We will keep full day kindergarten" etc etc. Any plan that was half decent was what McGuinty was already doing.
The rest of his plans were hogwash.
Hudak doesn't seem to be very good at politics.
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Ah yes, the law is the law is the law isn't it? I recall you once said if they outlawed tomatoes or some such thing tomorrow, you'd toe that line with a real spring to your step. No doubt you'd love to experiment with allowing them back but in the meantime you'd probably be calling TIPS every chance you got.
I have to say to say that this sort of sycophantic toadying to authority is what really pisses me off the most about contemporary right wing conservatism these days. Facts and arguments don't have a freakin' chance with you people.
The same sort of non arguments and non facts you have been using to promote the gun registry all of these years? I don't like the governments efforts to increase sentencing for pot users, in fact I think it should be legalized, perhaps all drugs should be, but I can see the sense in not allowing violent offenders another chance to offend, seems to me there are lots of people around and if known violent people stayed behing bars society would go on. But for some on the left it's all about fixing people, helping people, rehabilitating people, so that a large portion of them will still reoffend but hey look at how good we made ourselves feel about trying to help them.. So sorry, but I don't give a shit about how much help they needed, or how tough their lives were, newsflash, most people who grew up in bad situations don't become violent offenders, most perservere to some extent.
So it really is amusing to see the left twist itself in knots over this, always claiming the moral high groud, always worrying about the disadvantaged, when at least as far as pot is concerned there is a lot discussion amongst the right about the practicality of these new laws, but were all the same.. But hey when you are blindly supporting a gun registry that is so easily proven useless or very, very nearly so, you are just another insightful liberal trying to make the world a better place by supporting laws which do nothing but annoy hunters and worrying about the rights of violent people...sure.
You're a hero in a world full of evil people who think violent criminals should spend more time in prison, hoorah and Canada is so lucky to have you.
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I have been in a union in a flying related industry for many years, one thing you should ask yourself about air canada is how does an airline that is perpetually losing money manage to stay open? Perhaps we don't here all the details eh..
As for unions in general they are something of a necessary evil, to a point, at this time unions aren't really all that strong simply because for quite some time now unionized workers have been doing well, well enough that really fighting for each other isn't worth it. Aside from many of us being fat dumb and happy, you have to consider the propaganda war waged by some, and that becaomes more effective during tougher economic times. At the same time though your own union can be your worse enemy, by treating everyone as equal, by promoting hiring minorities or women, at the expense of competency. By not coming through on contract negotiations with cost of living matching wage increases, and providing toothless support when faced with vindictive management etc. You are often left wondering if the money you spend every month is worth it.
At the end of the day tho, it really is all you have, unions are the reason why many of us can make a decent living, and while they are less relevant now would any of us want to abolish unions and face the inevitable downward spiral of wages, until enough of us decided to get together and demand more..I don't think we need to live that scenario to know the end result.
Do you think that all of these companies outsourced to China beacuse they felt bad for the Chinese? How about using every blip in the market or every hurricane, every volcano, every earthquake etc as an excuse to offer nothing, when their own books show they are making money? If we allow corporations to pay thrid world wages they will do just that, weather it is here, or over seas, while I often dislike my union, I think it is a lesser evil.
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I know most of you like to sit around and split hairs all day, but can any of you describe a situation where a drug addict can use a drug without being first in possesion of a drug? Also, where did that drug come from, how did the drug user come to posess that drug? Their is a whole chain of illegality before the use of the drug, so if a place is helping drug users they are affecting the whol chain of illegality that they rely on, there will be other legal implications to this ruling.
Again how can one use what one does not posses?
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You seem to have difficulty with things like the truth and facts so would you mind providing evidence that the majority of Canadians (fyi that means more than just Toronto or that giant suburb of southern Onatrio) want Palestine to be recognized or in fact care at all about the issue at all.
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Really, our liberal laws don't allow us to force people to take meds, or put them away in a facility and so on. This guy is just one example of people who should not be wandering free.
If you have a propensity for harming others, or say kidnapping children, you shouldn't be in circulation. Some people involved with certain special interests that have a higher likelihood of criminality don't see it that way, some just have a pathetic weakness known as liberal guilt, those people should be ignored and marginalized. Give the guy some help in a controlled environment.
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I wouldn't put it past them to be planning on putting ankle bracelets on everybody some day. This is how it starts. Soon it will be "put on your GPS device, why not, do you have something to hide?". Just like we let the police tap our phones, or search our houses, our vehicles. Just the other day I was stopped by a cope and he ransacked through my pockets, searched through my wallet. But no one says anything, no one does anything, because we're all afraid, because no one wants to defend possibly bad people, because we are all scared little children willing to bow down before the state if it makes us feel one iota safer.
And of course we aren't intelligent enough to only track the people who's behavior warrants it...no more than we generally only put people in prison after they have been convicted of a crime..sigh. You should offer your home as a sex offender sanctuary seeing as you feel their pain.
To make it clear, these are CONVICTED criminals.
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I'm suggesting that it's a bit arrogant for middle class white men to complain about a commission that has been setup to help foster accessibility for groups that perhaps are not thought about or represented in the decision making processes in this country. A middle-class white man without any disability does not face the accessibility issues that the disabled, ethnic minorities, women, and the LGBT community faces. Whining about how unfair it is that white men aren't represented by the Human Rights Commission is ridiculous because they are represented when they have some characteristic that is limited by a society that could be more accomodating, such as a disability, criminal record, etc.
Our all too often claimed privilege does not excuse over punishing us. It certainly should not warrant government funded witch hunts and decisions made by obviously biased arbiters of what is 'fair' in the context of history. I am not at fault for the past misdeeds of my race no more than anyone else is. Believe it or not, but there are a lot of white people who wonder where all this privilege is, perhaps the recently announced Mcguinty government plan to fund jobs for 'new Canadian' to the tune of $10,000 a piece says something about all this privilege. But I suppose as long as us privileged white males continue to work and pay the bills in this country it's all good for those who seek to tear us down.
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Reality check it it was Dalton McGunity that bailed out the Auto Companies not Stephen Harper.
PROVINCE OF ONTARIO. Other provinces didn't give a damn about Ontario's Auto industry, well enough not to chip in for the buy outs.
Wrong. Your credibility continues to skyrocket.
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Hey look its the first major hurricane to make landfall in 7 years during a time when global warming is causing more severe weather than ever before, damn you global warming /shakesfist.
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Only cause they are stupid.
IT IS THE G8 G20 THE INDUSTRIALIZED RICH NATIONS.. yet they can't set their own budget, is the G8/G20 suddenly a socialist organization.
It was horrible.
I havn't seen a single positive tangible result.
No they could have rented rooms. TOO MANY PEOPLE... getting together a few hundred people is done all the time.
Show me any multinational corporation that had a meeting of VP's and paid $17,000,000 on accommodations for two days.
No the Canadian tax payer should NOT have been on the hook for those costs, and local police and the national security apparatus should have been able to do things with their existing budget. An insecure locality is what drove up the costs.. most of the focus was on attacking protestors...
this is what the g8/g20 has turned into.. beat up the left.
It is utterly negligent and irresponsible for tax payer funds to spend 1/250th of a years taxes on one event.
My god, you're an idiot, seriously, do you have any concept of how ridiculous you are? For example, how many companies gather 11,000 vp's in one place for a meeting? Do you read what you write, ever?
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I don't own any guns. In a civilized society rules are required so rather than complaining about it just accept that as a fact of life.
Do you have the same opinion of swimming pools? Many more children drown every year in pools than are killed with firearms. FYI, your simple minded view of civilized society doesn't actually translate into what the reality should be, I know it's difficult for liberals to understand this, but believing in a thing doesn't mean that it is necessarily so. It is no coincidence that most liberals are terribly unintelligent. Seriously, if I could prove to you that 2+2=4 you could easily argue that it equaled 5 if it suited your leftist agenda, do you ever think about your opinions? Do you ever actually look a the statistics with even the tiniest amount of critical thought? Are you even capable of such a thing? I doubt it, the types of firearms targeted by the gun registry are responsible for about 2 percent of homicides in the country, that is a tiny sum to spend 10's of millions of dollars on each year, and no, it isn't 4 million a year, and no it isn't directly checked 14,000 times a day and no it doesn't save lives, but yes it does buy votes from the ignorant.
BTW, what other controls would you consider necessary to keep us civil? Why some people are so desperate to have the government control their lives is hard to comprehend, sickening in fact. It's almost as though they don't trust themselves to behave in a civilized manner.
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One need only look to the south of us to see the results of this love for guns and the consequences of that to society as a whole.
Then again South Africa has less than half the number of guns that we do and has a murder rate that is 15 times higher than ours, Switzerland has a has about 1.5 times the ownership rate we do and yet the homicide rate is lower, you're argument really isn't one at all. In fact, it is incredibly stupid, one of those statistics that ignorant people use to reinforce the self righteousness of themselves and other people equally as uninformed, now i don't expect to convinvce you of your stupidity, I doubt you have the capacity to change you mind.
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And none of that was accepted or even common knowledge until well after the disease outbreaks killed so many, revisionist history, did the blankets carry the disease, maybe, were they used as a purposeful weapon or war or genocide? There is zero evidence to support that, you would think that we did enough bad things to native populations around the world without this folklore being treated as fact.
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I am wondering, since the concept of a virus causing diseases wasn't known until the 1700's how did europeans intentionally infect aboriginals 200 years before that? Unintentional intentional germ warfare? "Hey so we don't have the first clue where disease comes from but these blankets look suspicious, lets use em to kill the natives!" Not only that, but you would think that if the europeans knew the blankets were a source of disease that they wouldn't have handled them, but then if they knew they had a greater immunity than the natives it might not have been an issue. But of course to believe they knew any of that is lunacy. You might want to consider the plague outbreaks in england and france in the 16 and 1700's before you start squawking about germ warfare 200 years earlier, they didn't know enough about disease to prevent mass deaths of their own citizens let alone use disease as a purposeful weapon 200 years before.
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If only they been let out even earlier maybe they wouldn't have felt so hard done by.
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So what i have learned from this thread is that a lot of you don't think we should punish people who break the law. OK, but when someone assaults another person to the point of brain damage under circumstances that suggest the person might do it again it isn't about punishment, it is about protecting the rest of us.
Guarantee me that with treatment a murderer won't murder again. It is a fact that a violent offender is more likely to continue to be violent than another random individual. Why do the rest of us owe that person another chance that may end in taking the life of another. Explain that. Why do we owe some person another opportunity like that. Or, don't bother, because you simply can't explain that, no rational person could.
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Fyi, if i alluded to your stupidity, it's because you are actually stupid, complaining to the moderators won't change your predicament. lol.