[Tories take Elections Canada to court]

Yeah, because it's not as though the federal Liberals have ever been involved in any type of funding/money scandals, right?

Nope. Neither have the Conservatives ever tried to take money away from other parties.

[White Liberals who live in white towns]

Alright 100% is a little extreme.

I'd just like to know how people who live in areas with very low minority population can preach to us on the greatness of multiculturalism, since they would have little to no experience with it.

I'm speaking of people who live in smaller towns and other more rural settings where they would have limited if any prolonged exposure to minorities and immigrants other than what they would see on television.

Why is white the opposite of multicultural? French, German, Italian, Polish, not to mention British, they're all white, but also of different cultures. Many rural areas attract people from predominantly one area over others so you get pockets of one ancestry over another.

Also, one need not live near other cultures to have exposure to and experience with other cultures. One can travel, or have lived in another part of the world and have been immersed fully in other cultures but now reside in such places as you describe.

Lastly, such areas as you describe pretty overwhelmingly vote Conservative, don't they, so why do you care?

[Tories take Elections Canada to court]

Reading the article, it does seem to make sense - seems straight forward, actually.

What makes more sense: that a bunch of trained people at Elections Canada screwed up the way they calculate hundred-thousand-dollar rebates, or that the most partisan government we've had in decades is just flinging faeces and seeing what sticks?

But a judge will decide, and either the Conservatives will win, or they'll assail the judge for being a Liberal plant and appeal.

[Ignatieff calls it!]

Very interesting. Ignatieff has now said it....they will pull the trigger. Now Canadians will know that it is and will be the Liberals who are forcing an election. This may very well translate itself into negative polling for the Libs - we'll soon see. No more speculation from Dobbin about Harper pulling the trigger - we've now heard it straight from the horse's mouth and no matter how it plays out, the next election will be tied to these very quotes that Mr. Smarty Pants Ignatieff said today. It's pretty well the same as Jumpin' Jack saying he'll vote down the budget before he's even read it.

As much as I don't like the Liberal backroom boys, Senator David Smith has been trying to preach patience instead of elections. He's not stupid - he can see that internal Liberal polling numbers are not good - and will probably get worse. He's the guy who personally recruited Mr. Ignatieff and it seems he's lost control of his puppet. Ignatieff's impatience is clearly tied to the fact that he didn't come to Canada to be in opposition - he was destined for greatness - and promised the throne.....and by golly, he's going after it.

Martin was flirting with majority territory in polling in '06, but we all know how that election turned out. And as has been noted in this thread, Harper unilaterally called the last one and we also know how that one turned out.

Why does everyone think people hate voting so much they'll punish those who make them do it?

[Tories take Elections Canada to court]

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/090901/...ctions_canada_1

More game playing on the part of the Tories, it seems.

If the Conservatives would put a tenth the effort into actually governing as they do into finding ways to stick it to the Liberals, they'd probably have a majority already.

[Ignatieff calls it!]

There's nothing in the DESIGN of the system that implies the opposition parties should quietly stand by while a presiding government self destructs and brings the country down with it.

So you admit that's what the Harper Conservatives are doing? Self-destructing and bringing down Canada?

It's all well and good for an opposition party to boldly put forward good ideas for the salvation of the country, but the Government will either poke it full of holes, ridicule it, bury it, or steal it. And the best that the opposition can hope for if it's a really good idea is the last option, and then they get no credit, so where's the motivation?

[Ignatieff calls it!]

This ought to be funny. Kinda like watching "Wipeout".

It'll be a pleasure watching the Convenient Canadian head back to the States in early December.

Like he did after he lost the leadership to Dion? No, he stuck around after that.

Then he must have split the day after the last election when the Liberals had their butts handed to them. But no, he stuck around after that too.

For a guy who supposedly will leave at any setback, he sure does stick around.

[Ignatieff calls it!]

Me, I can't wait for the next election. I've voted in a handful, only a couple of times Liberal, and none of those times with any real conviction. Chretien was a very capable PM, and Canada did well under him, but he wasn't very inspiring.

I want to exercise my franchise because not only is it my right, not only is it my civic duty, but it is my passion. I may have been that rare youth who actually was interested in politics and tried to keep up.

I want to see if Ignatieff is made of the right stuff, if he's got some good ideas, if he's really been spending his summer hammering out some big platform and has been holding it close to his chest. I want to see if I can vote Liberal and really mean it.

I want to see Ignatieff and Harper go at it one-on-one in the debate and see if something exciting happens. See if one of them blows the other out of the water or if they just lock horns and shove each other around.

I want to see some decisive judgement of Ignatieff and more so of Harper. I don't want another Conservative minority. He's had two kicks at that can. Either give him a majority and let's see what he's been keeping in reserve, or kick him out of the PMO so we can get the next guy into the leadership of the Conservatives and see who he is and what he does (or she). If it's a Liberal minority, I hope it's big enough that the NDP alone wield the balance of power and I hope Jack can grow up a bit and realise he'll never be PM and might as well work with what he's got.