JCAN

Whales, primates, monkeys, or humans it does not matter neither does the spiritual connection to this land or any other. Moses, Jesus or any other person in history you want to name has no good original claim for their land either. I do not care what country it is the only one you can link to all of us is Africa because that is where all our ancestors started out from anything past that is a migration invasion or immigration of some sort so all other arguments about some special link to any other land is crap. Every nation on this planet has been conquered by another at one time and every one of the treaties put in place at the time has been broken as well it did not just happen to the the natives. If you want every one to get along then all will have to be treated equally not give one segment special rights or deal with them in a sensitive manor for they might put up a blockade, if any one else tried that in Canada they would be knocked down and hauled away. and if you don't think so I suggest you get some friends and try. quit trying to be idealistic and get back to reality this situation is not so simple and it will not be solved simply by holding hands and complementing each other their is heavy resentment by a lot of the populace because it is not just the Europeans supporting them it is every other race that has immigrated here since and the Asian and Africans had no part in the taking of this land. So in answer Shut up and go f@$k the whales you are so fond of.

WELL SAID.

The fatal flaw in that statement is the the Europeans are not asking the other inhabitants to pay them any sort of restitution, the Natives are.

If you paid any attention you would no we are past that about 200 years or so but if you would like to come and try to take it I welcome you. but I really don't think you need it because I am probably already paying for the one you are in. I would think the difference today is societal evolution but that topic seems to have a tough time here due to a lack of understanding of the concept

you might want to watch that racist tone Mr holier than thou. I never said I originated from Europe and I have never asked them or anyone else to support me either. once again you fail with a weak attempt.

they did not prove me wrong that is why they are lame. get a clue before you open your mouth.

You are more than welcome to try but I might remind you that you could not keep your own land so good luck. I will also remind you that it is stupid thinking and comments like that that you all resort to once you have been proven wrong on to many of your points. So get over it and move on to something productive.

You can study archeology all you want it does not change the origin no matter when it happened or weather the Natives came from Africa through Asia or Europe they did not originate here. I grew up in North Western Ontario around plenty of reserves went to school with plenty of native people hell I live in Winnipeg for Christ sake so I will bet I know more Native people then you do As for all your counter points they were lame and unfounded as usual so your childish insults bother me not.

You should remember just because you say it does not make it so. You can argue the point all you want but I am as informed if not more so then you. You seem to base your opinion's on wrongly interpreted things you read I am talking about what is actually happening things me and people like me see without own eyes, hear with our own ears. I am neither racist or backwards but I also refuse to take racial slurs from natives or any other race and not say something back. There are plenty of Native and people of other races with the same opinions and views on these subjects. you can continue to believe what you want but at the end of the day the facts will come out. -Natives have no more right to this land then anyone else -They did not originate here -they are given special rights that they abuse -they are as racist as any other race -they blame the white man for the problems they create -the rest of the races in this country all get along hard to cry racism -they will always hire 5 under qualified Natives before they hire 1 qualified white male -we owe them nothing -YOU IGNORE THE BASIC POINTS PUT FORWARD BY ALL THAT YOU CANNOT REFUTE.

This did not start out trying to pick apart bill c-31 it was a simple statement that within the bill and the bands there is discrimination of Natives by Natives due mostly to gender and how some like to ignore this fact. and it is still happening today. The main difference between being an African American or even Native American and being Native Canadian is that the African American's and Native Americans is they get nothing beyond what they earn themselves it is interesting because yet they seem to do well. The fact is is that Natives are more responsible for keeping the public out look on them the way it is not the white male and they need to accept responsibility for it. My point is and has always been there were wrongs done hundreds of years ago but not by any one living today and we have paid all that needs to be considering there is no proof of ownership to this land by the natives. It is fact that they did not originate here either. If I was here first is the argument it is no better then I took it and you cant take it back. So we all need to be realistic about a solution to this problem and to continue this 2 tiered system is not. The simple solution to ending the racism is to treat all people the same, most of the animosity towards Natives is because of the benefits that are given them and not the rest of the Canadians regardless of race or gender. I have said it before and I am saying it again they should be happy and appreciate what they have now because if it gets pushed to much further the rest will get fed up the Asian's, African's, and the whites of Canada because like it or not they will loose it all. If they realize it or not it is all races of Canada paying for them and it is simply not right. If it were, there would be families perpetually put in jail for a murder or a theft 1 person committed.

C-31 is about non status because they lost their status due to things like marrying non Native men and Those who lost their membership in a band through sexual discrimination in the past, can apply to regain membership. that is a fact so read on instead of as usual seeing only what you want to. I guess I forgot that there has never been an example of wife abuse in the native culture HA HA HA! pick up a paper go to a reserve or walk down main street Winnipeg. You are farcical, and if it wasn't for your red skin you might see your red neck.

That is their choice the fact is they have opportunities to do more with their lives. If they choose not to take advantage of those benefits afforded to them then they should complain to the band for not distributing the wealth properly or they deserve the life they chose. They will not get any sympathy from me.

That is right the, Native tyranny must end, the needs of the few do not out way the needs of the many that is simple logic. the baby sitting and coddling, has gone on long enough. I as well as many others in this country are not too worried about the risk of upsetting the natives and it is a small price to pay for equality. if what they are looking for is a fight they will eventually get it, and we all know who will win this one once again. As in all democracy if the people do not agree with policy they have the right to change it. If they would give up their greed they would see it is best to quit while they are ahead