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Interesting! Now a Political Citizen decides who deserves trial and who does not. Then you - Political Citizen - should better go to a Nazi forum if you know in advance who deserves to live and who does not deserve to live. Even Neo-KGB Putin's regime is trying to disguise the torches and make everybody feel that justice is on its way. But it looks like Political Citizen goes beyond Mr. Putin. Is Stalin your favorite?

I support this position! As Ethnic Russian i declare Independence from Russian Federation. We do exist! We do not recognize the Russian Buggeration powers. We did not vote for them. They are self elected and they are the deciples of Bolsheviks. RF must be destroyed! RUS will rise. Democratic proWestern RUS!

The truth about this war is here: http://www.vdesyatku.net/eng/

Well, if anybody wants really know what is going on in today's Russia then the book by professor Piotr Homyakov "The Secret of Ivan The Terrible" is a must. It has recently been translated and published in US. There is so much about Russia's reality that even "specialists" would be surprised. http://www.amazon.com/Secret-IVAN-Terrible...0996&sr=1-1

Agreed 100%!!!!! Thank you, Maxim! Very good notes!

Oleg! Do not even try to explain obvious things to Jerry. He does not understand simple things and has a mess in his head. He is trying deliberately to deviate the subject to the Nazi theme. He is just playing a fool. Never mind his bla-bla bla BS. We are talking here about Democratic National Russia, not about Reich and Nazis. Jerry has mixed smth.

What's wrong with Nationalism? Aren't the most of Democratic countries - national countries? For example, Baltic states, Scandinavians.

If you read the article you would not say that. NRN want to separate Caucus once and forever. They hate neo-KGB Putin and want Russian Federation to die as soon as possible. They need just their national democratic Respublic. Here is another article for you http://www.vdesyatku.com/NewRusianNationalists.html And also take a look here http://www.vdesyatku.com/EnglishPage.html

Did you read the conversation? I have to cite it one more time. "I repeat, there are various forces which might bring about the revival. And in many scenarios, we could well end up with a zombie. But if we help those who feel the same way we do, there won’t be any zombies, because they are really healthy forces, healthy themselves and able to help the world back to health!" I guess you do not think that all Russians are 100% crazy and sick.

I am not naive! Today Russians start realizing the evil that Empire brought them. Only in 20th century 100 million Russians were sacrificed for the Holy Fire of Empire. And this article written by NRN is a proof of my words.

We were talking about Russians!

The West is treating Russia pretty well actually. They are acting accordingly now. West does not touch Putin's regime. Putin invests all surplus from oil sales in the West. That's what the article is about. But! The oil and natural gas will finish very soon. And what the West is goimg to do with dissiparing Russia and with it's nukes then? That is the question. All those nukes will go to Iran and other countries. So West must not come down. But take a look to NRN - New Russian Nationalists http://mzaseka.newsvine.com/_news/2007/10/...an-nationalists

That wouldn’t do any harm. But the main thing now is to take a decision in principle. And then, to be frank, it’s not that easy. Just to know that these forces exist is not enough. We still have to contact them, and it won’t be an easy matter to win their trust

Fanatics in Kremlin surely do believe so. They are mentally sick. The majority of the population does not care about special better civilization! They just want to be able to work and to earn their daily bread.

I repeat, there are various forces which might bring about the revival. And in many scenarios, we could well end up with a zombie. But if we help those who feel the same way we do, there won’t be any zombies, because they are really healthy forces, healthy themselves and able to help the world back to health!

Some people might not like it, but the way things are, any large-scale changes in the world can now be started more easily in Russia than anywhere else. Absolutely all those who are unhappy with the world have a chance of changing it, quite cheaply, by changing the situation in Russia. Cheaply just because Russia is a semi-corpse. But it’s a half-dead giant. And if it comes to life, it will be able to turn the world situation in any direction. And it is likely to do what those who bring it to life want. Is that plain enough for the ‘ordinary Joe’?”

You see! Kremlin is not sleeping but terrorising everybody around, stiring up the turmoils. The monster will never come down, unless smb from inside RF cuts his throat.

Russia could ‘convalesce’ but only by changing its obsolete Byzantine state structure. Many people inside the country want this. These forces have great potential, but at present they are weak. They remind me of a huge pile of dry firewood with gasoline poured over it - but they don’t have any matches! And there’s nowhere inside the country where they can get them. They can only get matches from outside. When they’ve got them, they can do the rest themselves.

Just take a look what the article says about it! This ideological trend is ready to give a "green light" to the western capital for the access to the natural gas fields, which Russia could not develop on its own. And not just gas. Few people are aware that there are two new oil field regions in Russia, which are not being exploited yet simply because of lack of the capacity and know how. The first is the Central Russia oil with about 3.5 billion tons of oil estimated. And another is Leno-Vilyuy oil basin with estimate about 11 billion tons (Leno-Vilyuy basin located near the place where Vilyuy River joins the Lena River, in the southern part of Yakutia).Incidentally, the Leno-Vilyuy basin is in close proximity to China . Perhaps, the West is not indifferent to who would gain an access to such a wealth in the end of the Russian crisis.Third. It is no secret that the ideological trend, being characterized here, has a sharp anti-Muslim vector. And in case of its political success it's ready to contribute actively to the West in solving the problems of Iraq and Afghanistan and so on.

The particular article was written originally by professor Peter Khomyakov. He is actually an ideologist of NRN and NORNA. More about NRN please read here http://www.vdesyatku.com/NewRusianNationalists.html As for NORNA, they do not have it translated into English yet. In Russian it's available here http://www.nordrus.org/norna/detail.php?ID=1057 . As NRN just appeared on Russian political field as a net project in January 2007, they still do not have many things translated. When they get it done i will let you know. But it's the most adequate to the Western interests political stream today.

Did you read the article itself? http://www.vdesyatku.com/RussiaToTheWest.html If you read it you will realize why it's a threat.

NORNA is program. It stands for National Liberation of Russian People.... from Empire of course. NRN - New Russian Nationalists who are implementing NORNA

Of course "buying the matches" was a figural expression. NORNA doesn't really assume the revolt, but expects that the regime will fall apart itself, after a little help (to shake it up). And NRN will just pickup the felt power (like communists in 1917).

I know that New Russian Nationalists want to separate Caucas and leave it alone. As for Neo Nazis, i do not think NRN have anything to do with them. They condemn Nazism, that i know for sure. Neo Nazis need to be burried.

There is a political group inside Russia, which is willing and able to demolish Putin's Empire Russian Federation forever. They got the fire prepaired, they needs to buy matches. $1 million will do the job. They are so called New Russian Nationalists http://www.vdesyatku.com/NewRusianNationalists.html They hate Empire and are open to the West, ready to cooperate and willing to burry Historical Empire. They will let Caucas go and will embrace freedom and democracy values. But they need to buy matches.