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Jennie, you are beginning to act like a spoiled child on just about every thread you post on. Not only that but you are becoming rather self-deluded. Everyone else is a white supremacist because they don't agree with you, and you seem to think that you are so important that people feel a need to attack you. You are flattering yourself.
Good, then no doubt they will stop the racist cr.ap
You make a claim there is a video of this or that,Yes, there is ... for court ... not for you.
and then you don't back it up. When people point this out, you do not come back with a good answer but with another allegation of white supremacy or something like that. When someone presents an argument or a question you cannot or sometimes blatantly refuse to answer your only comeback is another allegation.blah blah blah broadbrush. something ... someone ... sometimes ... Do you have a real comment on one of my posts or are you just howling at the full moon? (Or maybe it is howling at you!)
You, Jennie, have been publically denigrating this chat site. And you know as well as I do that you are going overboard.Well ... then answer my questions in the APPROPRIATE thread.
What are the rules? Racism rules here? That's what I am trying to find out.
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I think you vacuumed your morals up along time ago.
Regarding the Butterbox Babies, no they were not "Mostly" Native but in fact poor white women who got pregnant out of wedlock. Babies that were sick or appeared sick were left to die in their cribs, the healthy ones were sold to childless American Families. They wanted only "White" babies not biracial enfants. You really should stop rewriting history to suit your agenda. Poor white women have suffered equally to native women.
Exactly, Moxie. You just need the rest of the story.
Biracial babies were not wanted for adoption, so they ended up in the butterboxes, along with others who were allowed to die.
Point being: In that place and other places, there were babies born of abuse at the residential schools, babies who did not survive. Where did they die? How did they die?
Even IF we could account for all of the students registered in the schools, and that has never been done or even attempted btw, many others may have died who were not 'registered'.
What kind of 'school' does not account for every students in its care? For every student not sent home at the end of the year? What kind of school doesn't even give an explanation for missing children?
And yet the churches have never accounted for any of the missing children.
It is time they did.
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I must be missing your point, among all the immaturity and insults. Please depersonalize your posts.
You will have to clarify for me: What does this have to do with Halt and Six Nations shutting down the Edwards Landfill in Cayuga?
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Christians don't "bugger children"pedophiles who try to pass themselves off as Christians do.
I agree ... with that adjustment.
Homosexuality has nothing to do with pedophelia.
Pedophiles molest children.
They don't care much which gender, but whichever won't talk is better.
And guyser, you are losing it because you cannot answer my question.
I will answer it for you.
Why is it acceptable to call the entire Six Nations community a "mafia operation" as a poster here did?
IT IS NOT.
There is simply no justification for that at all.
It is hateful. It is putting people in danger, young people in particular.
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This is a violation of MLW forum rules.
You are right. modified now.
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Leafless, you are communicating hatred in a public forum. That is illegal.
It is also REALLY unattractive!
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Hey OLEG ... if Toronto votes Conservative ... WHO GETS TORONTO'S TRASH THEN?
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Have you lost your mind? That isn't evidence of anything.
I repeat:
Get to the point:
WHY IS IT OK IN YOUR OPINION TO SAY THAT SIX NATIONS COMMUNITY IS A MAFIA OPERATION?
every man, woman and child?
... why is it ok to say that?
I am listening.
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while they are stopping it outside, they are in fact importing it inside....vis a vis the loophole.
hunh?
what are you flapping your gumst about?
The Edwards Landfill is in Cayuga, on disputed land, not on the current Six Nations territory.
There is no "loophole"
Those are two different territories.
This is what bugs me about you a$$holes:
You are all bent outta shape about some 'facts' ... that are wrong.
gmab
Just like Moxie in the other thread ... bipping off at me for being an information bully ...
She thinks "We one(sic) they lost over and out."
Such simple thinking may be ... simple ... but it also is not factual.
Canada's future is much more complicated than that.
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Wait a second, I just said that it was because that's the way things opperate; NOT because it's Six Nations.
Six Nations is a community that defines itself based on a common racial and cultural background; they maintain the distinction, it's not something anyone's forced on them. When that community functions in a certain manner--even if not all individuals are involved--that community opens itself to criticism. Race should not be a factor, but people like YOU always twist it into a racial issue because it's a convenient way stifle the debate. Sorry, but to me it all goes back to my having the right to question the actions of ANYONE who lives in my society, in my country.
When that community functions in a certain manner
hunh?
community functions how?
according to their own law, and within Canadian laws,
that our own governments evade?
that makes public denigration of a person acceptable?
That makes racism acceptable?
Is that you point?
Get to the point:
WHY IS IT OK IN YOUR OPINION TO SAY THAT SIX NATIONS COMMUNITY IS A MAFIA OPERATION?
every man, woman and child?
... why is it ok to say that?
I am listening.
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Now jennie, perhaps instead of quickly posting something, you could stop, inhale and think....before I try and eunuch everyone on this site, maybe I will read about this stuff. Cuz, ya know, you might stumble on this quote from my posted link. Prepare yourself, have a smoke too, cuz you just might need it ....
Oh, no bottled water sold on reserves? (fyi....I rarely buy bottled water since TO water is so good)
Any how...
"The discrepancy between relatively stringent municipal and provincial regulations and the federal reserve regime provides an easy path to corporate savings. For the Natives contracted to haul and dump the waste, the legal inconsistency can mean a handsome profit. Most of the haulers contracted to dump on the Six Nations reserve were what Bomberry calls "unscrupulous Indian entrepreneurs." Many of the Natives who work with the dumpers are unemployed, and for them the waste flow provides a ready supplement to a small income. Companies are often willing to pay a per unit fee to residents willing to store refuse such as tires. The Six Nations situation is typical, according to the Indian Affairs Environmental DirectorateÆs Blondin. Blondin says he is unaware of an instance where a company dumped on-reserve without Native involvement. "
Im sorry....you were saying something about stooooooooooopid?
ya ... about our nuclear waste driving around in the trucks. cr.ap
So your point is what ... that we should all be able to do that?
Or MAYBE we should all stop shipping our trash to other people and deal with it ourselves?
Maybe it's just time. Obviously the people of HALT from Cayuga think so.
They live next to the small old oozing toxic mess seeping into the Grand River already.
They approached Six Nations two years ago, and together they are now stopping the trucks.
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One you believe, and one you dont. But then again, if you had any idea why, then I am rather confident you would tell me why.
But you didnt , likely because you stopped and said.....Uh oh, caught being a....
Give me a H.....
Everyone is allowed to believe what they believe, I believe.
But I don't believe one can impose what one believes on others, and I don't believe one can publicly denigrate a 'group' of people ... I don't think that's right.
No one believes that is a good thing when it happens to them.
It is wrong when it happens to anyone, imo.
And it does happen here.
Of course, I am attacked because I am me, and that's totally different ... except for the part where people scream "TRAITOR ... INDIAN LOVER" up my nose (not here),
which I guess is a kind of group prejudice thing. Who knows how the ws's minions think.
Give me an H ...
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You ever been on a shrimp boat?
no please clarify
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That sounds like um.....now who are they..?...the ones that want land but take money instead...help me out here will ya?
Of course no one is advocating disposing of garbage in a river. Besides, with the Humber who could tell?
As for driving the garbage around all day, dont laugh, that is exactly what is done with toxic and nuclear waste only it crosses the country via train....back and forth... back and forth
cr.ap, guyser, that's ... stoooooooooooooooopid!
What are we doing to ourselves?
omygawd
The Humber ... OH I think they might notice all those WATTER BOTTLES floating in the Humber!
I wonder how many of those ... is it 75? trucks per day would be filled with WATER BOTTLES that should have been recycled ... or banned. Take a friggen glass and turn on the tap. Water bottles are carcinogenic ... being made, being used, being reused especially, and carcinogenic when put back into the earth and water, along with other toxic and caustic waste.
There is no way to put a pretty face on this. Get a grip, Toronto, please!
GET GREEN: Vapourize your trash into power.
guyser ... at last count, how much land in Haldimand is currently set aside with a moratorium on development?
It's about the land, and the money owing.
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Anybody have any stats on how much garbage--I mean, just the material kind--that Six Nations produces and where this all ends up?
check it out yourself.
you can bet it is in their own back yard.
That's the issue here.
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The Bible and Indian oral history are two totally different things.
Ya, I think guyser's point was that oral history is more accurate.
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That's because of the "intellectual" environment that you opperate in. Your perception of the world has become so skewed that you can't view anything from a non-racial perspective. ALL of your posts seem to do with Indians vs. European Canadians. In that respect I think you are no more healthy than Nazis were in their opinions of Jews.
Did I use the word "pro-native"?
You know as well as I do that is a McHaleism.
So this is where he and the minions hang out!
crap. bunch of ar*eholes
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Of course this is probably not the correct forum to ask this question - but I have seen reference here to white supremacy. Is this site top heavey in this area? Or is it just the odd member that accuses the other odd member of being a white elitist? Hope that there is balance here. It's not a bad thing to remain loyal to ones own extended tribe or family - but to be overly loyal to ones own clan may not really fit into the creation of a truely evolved nation. Just wondering seeing that you are based out of Alberta...I do like the idea of a provical state that takes care of family first though - but does in depend on anglo heritage to be accepted fully? Just wondering - I know you are a bright group here and I don't want to insult of offend - but - could it be possible that things may be a tad exclutionary here...I am actually a very black person - on the inside...am I still welcome?
Coming from you, this is quite a joke, oleg. Have you deleted your racist rant yet as I asked you to?
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Primate urges Prime Minister to apologize for residential schools
What follows is the text of a letter to Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper from Archbishop Andrew Hutchison, Primate of the Anglican Church of Canada.
The Rt. Hon. Stephen Harper
Prime Minister
Government of Canada
Fax: 613-941-6900
Dear Prime Minister,
On behalf of the Anglican Church of Canada, I am writing to convey to you my strong disappointment and sadness at your refusal to offer an apology to Aboriginal Canadians who are former students of Indian Residential Schools, and to their families, as reported this morning in The Globe & Mail.
The stated goal of the assimilation policy of the Government of Canada in former times was, in the words of Indian Affairs deputy superintendent Duncan Campbell Scott, “to continue until there is not a single Indian in Canada that has not been absorbed into the body politic”. The main vehicle to implement this policy was the system of Indian Residential Schools, by means of which children were removed from their homes and communities and placed in boarding school, where they were forbidden to speak their own languages, and where they were taught the culture of the colonizers. Many did not return to their homes and families for years; others died at the schools and their parents were never told of their deaths. While this policy did not succeed, nonetheless the pain, suffering and dysfunctionality witnessed today in Canadian Aboriginal communities and families is a direct result of the attempts to “take the Indian-ness out of the Indians.”
The Anglican Church of Canada was complicit in implementing the policy of assimilation. A total of 26 Indian Residential Schools were run by the Anglican Church, functioning as an agent of the Government of Canada. We are ashamed of this part of our history. In 1993 our former Primate, Archbishop Michael Peers, offered an apology on behalf of the whole church for the harm done by the residential schools system. Here is an excerpt from that apology:
I accept and I confess before God and you, our failures in the residential schools. We failed you. We failed ourselves. We failed God
I am sorry, more than I can say, that we were part of a system which took you and your children from home and family. I am sorry, more than I can say, that we tried to remake you in our image, taking from you your language and the signs of your identity. I am sorry, more than I can say, that in our schools so many were abused physically, sexually, culturally and emotionally. On behalf of the Anglican Church of Canada, I offer our apology
The Anglican Church of Canada has been participating in the current Alternative Dispute Resolution Process. We have been sending a church representative to ADR Hearings in the role of listener, to hear and receive the story of the survivor, and to offer an apology on behalf of the church. We have learned that for many survivors, the apology is at least as important as the financial compensation, if not more so. People whose lives have been shattered through no fault of their own, are immensely helped by having their suffering acknowledged and validated, and by hearing the words of apology.
Noting that we are not alone in requesting that an apology be made, I quote from the judgement issued by the Honourable Chief Justice Brenner, in the Supreme Court of British Columbia: “[35] Although I am making no order and am issuing no directions, I would respectfully request counsel for Canada to ask that the Prime Minister give consideration to issuing a full and unequivocal apology on behalf of the people of Canada in the House of Commons.”
Mr. Harper, I strongly urge you to reconsider your decision to refuse an apology to IRS former students and their families.
Sincerely,
+Andrew
The Most Reverend Andrew S. Hutchison
Primate
The Anglican Church of Canada
others died at the schools and their parents were never told of their deaths.
And their parents are still wondering what happened to their children who disappeared while in the care of the government and the churches. The Anglican Church at least acknowledges that children did die, and that parents were not told. I expect the latter was government policy.
A reporter with SunMedia did a series of articles on this story in the spring. Then the Globe and Mail jumped on board and gave it a government-friendly spin. The media demanded answers from Jim Prentice. Prentice obliged by saying there would be an immideiate investigation. Prentice was moved to another ministry. Strahl won't answer the question. Bob Watts from the Truth and Reconciliation Commission says they "don't know how they are going to do that". Translation: No federal resources have been allocated to investigate deaths of children in the residential schools. yay Canada ... How's that for "Truth"!
The federal government is shoving the issue under the carpet again, as criminally responsible people would, given a chance: How many criminals would do an investigation into their own crimes? Can't ask the RCMP, because they are implicated too: They rounded up the children at gunpoint to go to the schools, and when children escaped, they chased them down with dogs, and some died in their custody too.
Consequently, other methods are necessary to ensure that Canada has to face up to its deeds.
I hope some of you are understanding now that this is not a topic to be taken lightly, not a topic for your racist jabs. Grow up and show a little more respect, please, or go to another thread.
This is a topic of importance for all Canadians, and it is not going away until justice is done: bring the children home.
Tell the truth, for there is no reconciliation without truth ... first.
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As a whole they are noble and have a great title. As in all orgainizations of PRIVLEDGE you will find poor behaviour. Look at lawyers and some of those poor poorly appointed judges that could not tell if a tire needs air anymore than they can or care who's innocent or guilty - or diserving or not.
So delete your racist and disgusting post please, moron.
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Six Nations can be characterized as such because that's the way things opperate, not because it's Six Nations.
That is just more disgusting racist bs, but shyte-for-brains like you can't do any better.
Perhaps I will send your whole steaming pile of crap of a thread someone who might care.
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I think this is extremely unlikely.
In fact, I just read in the Globe that Toronto figures Harper has pretty much written off not only 416 but the normally vote rich 905 too!
I think your leader is a little out of step with your desires, Oleg!
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Backpedaling again eh. I've noticed that you do it all the time. How do you expect to be taken seriously when every time someone raises a point you disagree with you go into immediate denial? From what I understand a great deal of the evidence has entered a more widespread forum than just the hands of the Lawyers. This being the case I believe it to be far more credible than some mysterious and elusive tape showing what you claim.
To me it looks like the child soldier "site security" are guilty, my opinion only at this point. Part of the reason I've come to conclude this is through your very own efforts. On this subject you've repeatedly told obvious falsehoods and flip flopped on your story more than a beached flounder.
As I've said before, your baseless and empty rhetoric do nothing to further your cause, you merely hinder it.
I see no point in trying to predict the outcome. I was simply pointing out that people jumping to conclusions here didn't even know who attacked who first, didn't even know that Gualtieri was waiting to attack them. Just some information that might tone down the rhetoric from the minions a bit, who are trying to prejudice people here.
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There has been no racism since I arrived. To have racism you need some real stuipfying hatred. So far no hate...well as a kid I was white haired with green grey blue eyes - and white skin..now if I can get some of your members to hate me - which I am sure I could do - then we would have a new form of racism - and a thing called white on white crime..just pretend I am black on the inside and hate - one of your own..cos it sure looks like there are white folks here who are real black and quite dark on the inside.
Labelling all people "mafia" because they live at Six Nations is racism, Oleg. It is disgusting to me. Please edit your post as requested. In fact, the whole thing needs to be deleted.
How dare you talk about a community that way!! :angry:
The Six Nations and Crime in Ontario
in Provincial Politics in Canada
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Do you claim a religious exemption from the hate laws Oleg?
Because that anti-homosexual meandering cr.ap doesn't sit well with me.
It's hateful.
the whole thing is disturbing that our young are being encouraged..as if liberal society in effect has become "dirty uncle Ernie" instigating deviancey.
Please delete it.
Or show me your religious claims and credentials and exemptions.
And answer this, poster:
Why is it acceptable to call the entire Six Nations community a "mafia operation" as a poster here did?
IT IS NOT.
There is simply no justification for that at all.
It is hateful. It is putting people in danger, young people in particular.
Because 50 year old men then think it is ok to pick a fight with them over a friggen FLAG ... cos they're just "mafia" right?.
Such ignorance offends me.