AgentSmith

"Anti-war protestors and those who leave their clothes off, when they really should put more on given their ugliness, do not debate the merits of the case." Thats a general statement that I don't think applies to debaters here. 'Anti-war protestors' is like referring to Americans as 'warmongers' its a label that unfairly paints and generalizes, and creates barriers to the kind of real debate you claim you want to engage in...

I think its important to make the distinction between Anti-Americanism and legitimate democratic debate and criticism. I think also a lot of people who are anti-war and anti-imperialism (pax Americana) are being painted unfairly as Anti-American. Sounds very much like the debates during the Vietnam war.