TooInvolved

OK. Gotcha.

Hi, You seem to be responding to both me and Insom at the same time, but I think you're attributing some of his/her comments to me incorrectly. Either way... It wasn't Insom's, ahem, "Calling a spade a spade" that I took issue with. It was the unclear intent in doing so. I'm pretty sure Insom wasn't just stating that Blacks weren't the first to inhabit the US just for kicks. There was a deeper reason; I just don't know what it was. (and despite the fact that it's a maple leaf forum, Insom was focusing on the US. Note the title of the discussion.) It's hard to say whether there was much rape and pillage among Native Americans or Indians. (I use the terms interchangeably.) When I was in school, they didn't teach much about Native Americans. But I suspect there was more strife than most people know among them. I also suspect Native American nations saw each other as just that: separate nations, and not as one big indistinguishable glob of red skins. Just my 2 cents. Thanks. TI

You don't sound "conservative." Instead you sound rather racist, despite your protests. Your portrayal of us sounds like something straight from the movies or MTV. Or maybe you're just in a bad environment. Feel free to protect your daughter but don't think you're protecting her from black people in general, just your limited views of us. ...because we stole this country in the first place. On the other hand, we were here before the blacks... At least you're acknowledging the despicable acts committed against Native Americans, whom I also count among my ancestors. But to say the country has been stolen suggests that it belongs to someone like a piece of property. It belongs to God. And to imply otherwise is mighty arrogant. In addition, you sound as if you're saying arriving in America "before the blacks" entitles you to something. It doesn't.

I live in the Northeast. High rate of hate crimes here, so I'm told. Blessedly, I don't know personally. I'm actually suing someone now for discrimination. I'd rather not discuss that until after the trial. Has anyone here actually experienced racism besides me? Is it possible for you to experience it, if you get my drift...? And I don't mean "reverse racism." T

Then that explains why I find it distasteful. I believe that was an answer to the original question. Call it whining if you want. I'm from the US - born here. I didn't say I wasn't from here, just not an immigrant to the US.

Read the previous posts and figure it out. I'm not in or from Canada or left-leaning. It doesn't sound like you know what you're talking about. At all.

Well, only one of your assumptions is true: that I find the US distasteful. I don't have the ability to go somewhere else because it's just not that easy and I'm not sure where a better place would be. I'm not an immigrant to the US. And I haven't and don't ceaselessly complain. However, if I wanted to hazard a guess about why immigrants might do so, I'd say that maybe they expect to have a better life once they leave home. In many ways, they do to be sure. But IMO racism is something worth complaining about.

Are you writing to me? I wasn't clear from your post. TI

SO you live in America right? because if you dont you better spend more than 50 percent of you time there to make a bold statment like that. Yes.

Unf., yes, in my experience most people are pretty racist in the U.S. Sorry to say it.