Aslan

Spare me, I have read the study. I researched the study. My comment was hyperbole, reserved for bad science. They selected random households in Baghdad, Basra, Arbil, Najaf and Karbala, and Falluja, a ridiculously small number of households. They have been discredited, and not by me (that's why I didn't do a piece on the study), but by their fellow lefties, who COLLECTIVELY at the time of the Lancet "study" had none of them projected - optimistically projected - more than 16,000 deaths. It is bad science.

You presume that the 25,000 number is accurate. The fact that the article is on a right wing web site tells me that the 25,000 figure is likely a gross underestimate. Others have estimated the casualties at 100,000+ which could also be an exaggeration. I suspect the true casuality figures are somewhere in between. In anyc ase, it is impossible to draw conclusions from the demographics of casualities if the statistics available are suspect. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Iraq Body Count is not a Right Wing website, but an antiwar group. The Lancet study of 100,000 is even discredited by them because it used goofy statistics to project the casualties in one Baghdad subdivision over the whole country. You are incorrect.

Article excerpt from Logic Times (www.logictimes.com). The Iraq Body Count study reports 24,865 civilian deaths in the first two years of the Iraq War, an apparent ringing endorsement of the "Iraq in chaos" position. But a curious statistical anomaly jumps right off page one: over 81% of the civilian casualties are men. Even stranger, over 90% of civilian casualties are adults in a country with a disproportionate percentage of the population under 18 (44.5%). This contradicts a basic tenant of the civilian casualty argument, namely that we are describing collateral damage during a time of war. Collateral damage does not differentiate between male and female, between child and adult. A defective smart bomb falling in a marketplace, stray bullets ripping through bedroom walls, city warfare in Fallujah – all these activities should produce casualties that reflect the ratio of men to women or adults to children that prevail in Iraq as a whole. This question is particularly relevant when one side in the conflict does not wear uniforms, is predominantly adult and of one gender, and engages in a practice of concealing its combatants within the civilian population. The statistics are further distorted if the Iraqi security forces – essentially the free Iraqi military on the side of the U.S. coalition – are classified as civilians, as they are in this study. (Details at www.logictimes.com/civilian.htm)

I guess I should not surprised, being an American joining a Canadian forum, that this sort of ignorance exists up North. There are others who do show sense. Clearly you must feel that the French solution to Islamo-fascism is the way to go. Start gearing up for your riots. Bush chooses to let liberty and freedom expose the lie of fascist Islam as opposed to bombing the Middle East into submission. Read and learn: www.logictimes.com/bushplan.htm <{POST_SNAPBACK}> May I ask: would your support for Bush drop at all if he said: "I now have to raise your taxes and get rid of your social security to pay for the beauty of freedom and the end of fascist tyranny in Iraq?" You have a president who is in economic denial. One of the reasons I support the conservative viewpoint is because I like a strong economy free of tax and spend liberals. The problem with Bush is he spends carte blanche while cutting the taxes of the richest...you can't have your cake and eat it too. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> More urban myths and intellectual dishonesty. You apparently are unaware that this war is the second cheapest military enterprise in US history (date here: www.logictimes.com/dissent.htm. We have an 11 trillion dollar economy and can afford to defend ourselves against Islamo-fascism. You may have missed the recent almost 4% rise in GDP this last quarter despite hurricanes and the war?

I guess I should not surprised, being an American joining a Canadian forum, that this sort of ignorance exists up North. There are others who do show sense. Clearly you must feel that the French solution to Islamo-fascism is the way to go. Start gearing up for your riots. Bush chooses to let liberty and freedom expose the lie of fascist Islam as opposed to bombing the Middle East into submission. Read and learn: www.logictimes.com/bushplan.htm