Squeakbox

This is a bit redundant seeing as people are racist to either blacks or even Arabs, so does this argument really matter? The point you're trying to get at here is moot. There is racism even against Chinese or Japanese people, if you want a specification in this matter, there is none. End of discussion.

I know they "tried" options like this before, but the issue is that the government can't seem to utilize it properly. They're spending it in the wrong places.

Ya, it sounds more like an American reality to me... are we still talking about Canada? Sheesh..

That's just the kind of common sense I would expect too, but there are people that seem to have this mental illness that impairs common sense... it's frightening, and it's everywhere! To me it sounds ridiculously absurd because it IS a restaurant, a place not to likely to have that idiocy. But sometimes you just never know who is making the racist decisions.

I think we need to understand that there's rick and poor gaps EVERYWHERE in the world, and we, as a country, need to better ourselves from that and actually HELP people - which seems to be what the government is incapable of!

We need to go back to a real incident that happened in a Canadian hospital, and I've been to the hospital and have been at the expense of the stupidity of the nurses at hospitals, I've witnessed it's potential to disaster: http://www.infowars.com/socialized-healthcare-canada-man-dies-in-waiting-room-after-34-hours/ I was in the emergency room for 3 DAYS before I got my gallbladder removed, and because of the wait I ended up with a blood infection. Not only that, but when I needed to unplug my IV machine to go to the washroom, the nurse standing there ignored me, and started jumping in place clapping her hands (no bs). So, if you ask me, some of the nurses in hospitals are just plain retarded.

So okay, it happened. I don't get it, since it's money, but what I do get is how stupid people are in reality - so I can believe it.

There are certain Canadians that get sent to the states, very high-profile cases. Take a case one time where a boy was born with a growth problem on his face, the "elephant man" scenario - he was so high-profile he was on Dr. Oz or the Doctors I believe? He ended up with a doctor that was willing to do the surgery for FREE and did a miracle job at that. I'm pretty sure that the family was in Canada, but they weren't in the states for sure. In that situation, would I trust the local hospital with that? Frick no! EDIT: here's the news article from that situation: http://edmonton.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20100521/maddox-flynn-surgery-100521/20100521/?hub=EdmontonHome He was sent to New York for that surgery, and so it should! In fact, there's lots of surgeries that people would rather go to the states for if they truly know what they're going for, and research into it.

I think that's in an extreme case... I'm saying if one restaurant isn't going to serve you for being black - that's just plain stupidity. There's always another restaurant that will take your money. I'm not saying every restaurant will do that. If I was black and that happened to me, I'd just say "Fine, let's see if McDonalds likes my 10 bucks" - if they're turning down money, they're idiots. Not saying money alleviates the stigma, it's just ridiculous how one restaurant's actions can be so absurd! Racism is always extreme, but people need to have more balls to not get enraged/insulted by it, and take their money elsewhere. It's the anger that the restaurant causes that feeds that kind of prejudice. Of course, in the major sense, if every restaurant is doing it - then we have a mass hate crime on our hands. That's a different scenario.

I thought he committed suicide? Either way, it was a tragedy. But if it IS possible to replace a penis, which I'm sure it's possible with advanced technology (in the future perhaps), then it is likely. But lately, in medical research, I have not heard any advancements on this type of situation. I don't even think they've advanced robotics enough to replicate human skin sensation properly. An implant is possible, so I guess they are close to the idea of it: http://my.clevelandclinic.org/services/surgical_penile_implants/hic_surgical_penile_implants.aspx I'd watch out for botched surgeries though... as with anything.

You're talking about connecting nerve-endings to something sensitive to sensations, maybe they can repair one if it's fractured or broken: http://www.rcsed.ac.uk/journal/vol43_2/4320009.htm That doesn't happen very often either, but especially when they incinerate a penis, how, pray tell, do you fix that?

Ya, bringing people from another country... that's another problem. I've met 3 families in a few years that came from another country, 2 of which were Haitian. When we lived back in our old area, this couple was living below us, the husband was getting his university. Here they are on social assistance - both of them. He's coming home, then going to university - his wife stays at home all day (your classic house wife) popping babies. She doesn't pop 1 or 2, she popped around 3 in 1 or 2 years! By then, I guess her husband ran low on money because NOW they have babies to care for right? They had to go into rent-income housing - something that CANADIANS can use, and they're STILL on assistance, the husband quit university because he couldn't continue. Smart right? Popping babies because they figure it's rich world here or something (not to sound racist). I'm in a new place now, and guess what? Another haitian family on social assistance, and she doesn't speak proper french, it's a completely weird french that doesn't make sense, and she doesn't understand my french! (I don't know how to explain it) There's more places in the states, I don't know why they sent a refuge from that place to live here? I'm sure there's people from other countries filling job positions, but guess what - they have no connection to the people who live here!

Ya, I wasn't saying $45,000 salary, that is a bit high for any average worker. But what I'm getting at is this - rent has gone up into the $700 range (monthly), and welfare may cover the cost of $500 monthly rent, but that's JUST that much, some welfare only benefits $300 monthly rent, and that's basic (if you still want money left over for yourself), which means you'll be around rooming in lots of places. This doesn't mean that they're lazy... yes there are lazy people out there, but this could be from other issues. There are mental problems affecting many people, and not to deny history, because historically humans are lazy creatures (in the sense of history itself, other than for necessity). The minimum someone may be earning for work might be $7,000 to $10,000 a year. Now I'm just guessing, but I have heard of some really low salaries out there. Part-time jobs only last just that - part time. I guess if you do a cycle of jobs when they're available, and save up money - no problem, but you'll end up working a lot of morning-to-late shifts to earn a decent salary. The reality about part time jobs - people not being able to get part-time jobs. So this runs those savings down if you don't get a job. You're practically bouncing between low welfare, and getting jobs. My friend still can't find a part-time job because the jobs he could get are 3 streets away (about a 1-hour walk), so it's not always practical unless you can bike every day (hoping your bike doesn't give out). There's flaws everywhere, you have to realize how people truly struggle, and it doesn't mean they're not hard workers.

Wow - okay... Ya, let's restore a burnt penis that has evaporated from this kid's body. Oh don't worry - it'll grow back! Tell me when god comes to make that miracle come to life. That story, however, was a life-lesson example of what NOT to do with someone. Except, for the boy, it may not have been any better if he remained a boy, wondering where his penis is. I don't think the result would've been any different, but the parent's dealt with it the wrong way. Also, Bonam, I don't mean to be rude - but you have a lot of assumptions on things. I understand you have your opinions, but I'm beginning to realize that you have a lot of views that are true in some aspects, but it's just not reality. Being mutated/disfigured is one thing, but technology is not advanced enough to replace a penis.

This has nothing to do with funding people who don't want to do anything, it's about who works harder for less money is the big problem. It's nice being able to work for the government and get 6-weeks vacation, but for someone who has to work physically to pay off things in their life can't get that freedom! So the person who gets 6-weeks off still gets a nice fat $45,000 a year, at least, while someone who couldn't make it through college because they had to deal with a robbery and paying off student loans is only earning maybe $15,000 to 20,000 a year at best! They don't get 6-weeks off or any days off unless they're throwing up all day and can't go anywhere because of a severe flu! Even with the free health care - a nice flu shot is great, but you can still get a nasty flu that the shot doesn't prepare you for, or worse. Does "deadly pandemic" concern you at all? Free health care is only good if you NEED medical care, free health care only amounts to a small portion of life, and it's not like you're paying for health care every waking day of your life, other than taxes. I don't know where you work, maybe you do work physically and got lucky with a nice business going on, but that's not a reality for people. It's not easy for people to find a job, even if they are good at it. A college diploma, or even a university degree doesn't necessarily guarantee a job (except with a university degree you can more likely get a comfortable job and not realize how hard people truly work, and they are no less than you are)!

I'm talking about YEARLY SALARIES for one thing. A person in a government job can earn as much as $120,000 a year compared to $15,000 a year for the lowest type of salary - look up IT professions to get an idea of what I'm getting at. Might not be what the government pays, but I've seen IT jobs out there for $45,000 to $55,000 at a low salary. Also - if you have a room mate you know, fine enough, but if you need to rent out a room to someone you DON'T know because you need to sub the cost of living, by advertising - no you DON'T know what they're like. I am talking about people who work, maybe they clean for a living and don't earn much. Is that fair? Also, my mother was a top student COLLEGE, she wasn't able to go to College right after highschool due to real life issues - her parents kicked her out because she was 18. They wouldn't PAY for her college. She had to GET student loans to fund her college years, which didn't help when she kept getting the flu, and standards back then in the college she went to didn't allow her to complete certain things to get her diploma. She had ME to deal with as a baby during those years. Do you like being a smart ass? There wasn't any scholarships back then for college, nor is there ANY for college even now, ONLY for university - IF you met certain criteria. Hole in your statement right there. YES THERE'S ACCOMMODATIONS NOW THESE DAYS, but there WASN'T any when she was in college. She can't do anything about it because real-life crap keeps happening. You want me to explain how drivers these days are screwing up car insurance with all the retarded accidents? Fantastic, you got through university - don't you sound smart<sarcasm>. I know plenty of people who went through university, and they're not too smart! Total screwballs I've seen with PhD's, doesn't mean much if you're not still learning. As for the dancing - I'm talking about people with back injuries! People who do physical work may be in better shape, but if they get an injury they aren't! Keep spewing crap, I'm talking about the college system OVER 10 YEARS AGO, not NOW in 2011! Back when they didn't HAVE these accommodations. She can't go back to college because the protocols were never in place until now after the H1N1!

But that's what the terrorists will go after - they have paranoid views. They'll see the fighter jets, and that's all it takes. Next thing you know it's "The Canadians are no better than the Americans! GET THEM!" - if you understand their irrational logic, you can at least get that the terrorists are not known to sit back and wait until we actually "use" the jets. And I'm talking about TERRORISTS, not generalizing Arabs.

What? I think he's talking about the states...

Salary inequality, people who can't afford gas or food, families ending up on the streets! I'm sick of the fake lakes and fighter jets, I'm sure we all are. There are people out there who can't live on their own because salaries aren't enough, and then they can't retire, because the new pensions are a joke! Also, the rents keep climbing, and the welfare doesn't budge all that much to the point where people who actually NEED the welfare can't even get into rent-income housing, because there ISN'T enough complexes being created! If anything - the government needs to create a "Donation Funding" plan to go into building necessary homes, supplying proper pensions, and providing proper care to people on the streets! Sure - we can get more jobs, but that doesn't help people's self-confidence when they aren't in a comfortable living environment. You just about have to live with room mates, and rent out rooms to get by in this country now! It's not a sound way to live, because you never know what the person you're living with is like! The issue: the government doesn't care about personal issues, and would rather toss around papers like a bunch of babies. They need to give the extra money they're spending on extra junk that isn't a high priority to something that actually needs it - not just health care, but housing is a big issue that is on the rise, and will go un-noticed until we have a global issue, or make this matter more public. In fact, anyone on welfare support or this stupid new "worker's pension" system for people who don't work in the government is a joke, and still have to work to get any means out of their life. How do they expect people to work into their 80's? Or the rest of their life? It's unrealistic to expect EVERY elderly person to be chippy, healthy, and exercise the rest of their lives to stay on top. Some people have done physical work all their life, and it's taking a toll on their bodies, they can't go dancing if they have back problems... It's NOT WHINING, it's real life, and not everyone can go dancing after a long day of labor! In fact, they can't take holidays or days off if they don't get paid for not doing their job! A government job may seem like hard work, but you're only fooling yourselves to what real work is like - and they get paid 4 to 10 times less than anyone in the government! Nevermind paying someone with a college degree or university degree what it's worth when there's people who probably tried to make it through the system, but possibly came down with a sudden illness and couldn't finish their college. A top student may be able to do well, but if they can't do the exam because of a violent flu - oh sorry, you can't complete your college. That was a FACT over 10 years ago, and because of that people in their 40's can't redo their college because of current limitations. So they don't deserve a decent pension because they couldn't complete their college? My mother tried for years to finish her college - top student, and kept getting sick. She had to quit and work to pay off student loans. Oh sorry, I guess she's not good enough for your pig money? ------------------------- What I'm trying to get at is the government needs to fund the people - not brush the issue under the rug, because that's something that Steven Harper loves to do.

More money would be nice.... when Harper decides to donate to a CHARITY and not his glorified american-ish views on the military, fake lakes, and glorified fighter jets so we look all powerful! (Yeah, let's invite the terrorists because we got fighter jets - great idea Harper! Get out the champagne!) The government needs to drop the extra cash that's NOT going to necessities into a donation fund for REAL issues for people who actually need it in this country, not a hot ride.

I wouldn't trust any other club right now... they're all falling apart and probably infested with cockroaches (economy and social issues)...

Oh my gosh, that's not what I meant! I'm talking about the issues they aren't covering - I didn't say they go to the HRC WHEN they get raped. I'm saying they need to touch on more realistic issues, not silly oppressions that happen in a restaurant because they won't serve you. "Oh boo-hoo, I didn't get my chinese buffet because I'm black" - like, seriously? Choose another restaurant, and screw them if they don't want money!

I don't think we can make Bonam understand this matter, they are obviously the kind of person that views things in a biased sense.

I remember those stories too - both of them. Cher's son was the example of childhood gender confusion I've been getting at. The botched surgery is a COMPLETELY different issue, and rare.... horrible incident, the guy that it happened to committed suicide because he knew naturally he was never really a girl, which shows how our genetic make-up is truly what makes us who we are, and to deny someone access to that surgery because they have to pay for it is terrible. That's the incident that needs to be accounted for, but someone doing the sex change because they're not confident in themselves is another issue. It will be a debate, but one thing is certain - for this surgery to be appropriately funded the psychiatric mental health facilities need to be better. The psychiatrists STILL don't understand enough about mental illnesses to say whether or not the person should be allowed or denied this kind of service which might save that person from lifelong anguish. There will always be the oddball trying to get that surgery for the wrong reasons, and the mental health care is working hard to prevent it - but sometimes you still need to wonder if it's enough.

You said "false", but your comment afterwards only backed-up my point I was getting across. I think you meant "true" because you only expanded on what my statement described in a nutshell. But thank you for elaborating. I never said ALL teachers were stupid - you're misreading into it a bit too far. If anything I have had wonderful teachers, and I stuck with the school system until I pulled through. I had stupid teachers, so you can't say there isn't stupid people out there. They screwed up most of my years though, putting me into special ed, and telling me I would lose marks if I did my homework telling me I had to do it in that classroom where the special ed teachers were always over your shoulder every 2 minutes while you tried to work! I'm proving them wrong now, I'm going to college. One of the teachers I went to school with who thought I was a failure in math (I love the crap out of math) fell on her arse when she heard I was going into computers. But I think what you're NOT getting is the teachers that I've come across. Most of the teachers in the public school systems are wonderful - it's part of the staff that's flawed. I overheard a teacher talk to a student who had trouble with math, and INSTEAD of telling the student he needed some help and show him his mistakes, she says "Oh, you're not good at math, you'll never be good at math.". But that just points out the fact that there is always stupid people...