jdobbin Posted May 10, 2007 Report Posted May 10, 2007 Just one, the government money that ad agencies got for doing nothing, and in turn ended up being given to Quebec Liberals to run their election campaign. That amount was never devulged to the public, nor who got how much of it. Gee, did Dion get any? How much? I don't see Dion's name once in that link. The Official Opposition leader's office's budget is listed as well as what staff members get paid. I'm all ears about something that might be hidden in his office today. Quote
daniel Posted May 10, 2007 Report Posted May 10, 2007 I seem to remember Harper being attacked mercilessly by the hateocracy for being unable to pick proper clothes or have makeup applied. Then when the Liberals get an image consultant it's all good. But then again, Stephen Harper's weight is fair game while Stephane Dion's atrocious English isn't. And you would be selectively remembering only what you want. Ok. He was still writing as if the Cons were at 36% when they were at 30%. Quote
Michael Bluth Posted May 10, 2007 Report Posted May 10, 2007 He was still writing as if the Cons were at 36% when they were at 30%. What are you talking about? Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
normanchateau Posted May 10, 2007 Report Posted May 10, 2007 [quote name='sharkman' post='217584' dy for this?I seem to remember Harper being attacked mercilessly by the hateocracy What are you talking about? What's the hateocracy? Quote
scribblet Posted May 10, 2007 Report Posted May 10, 2007 I seem to remember Harper being attacked mercilessly by the hateocracy for being unable to pick proper clothes or have makeup applied.Then when the Liberals get an image consultant it's all good. But then again, Stephen Harper's weight is fair game while Stephane Dion's atrocious English isn't. He's working on it, he now has a diction coach as well. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...y/National/home "He also employs a diction coach to help improve his pronunciation in English - an area that many commentators have singled out as a major weakness." Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Shakeyhands Posted May 10, 2007 Report Posted May 10, 2007 wow, you guys really are sad. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
scribblet Posted May 10, 2007 Report Posted May 10, 2007 Slow day, lots of same old same old - Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
scribblet Posted May 10, 2007 Report Posted May 10, 2007 This should add to it - http://stevejanke.com/archives/225814.php Nicolas Ruszkowski is a well-known figure when somebody needs their image fixed up. Prior to taking on the job of making Stephane Dion look good, he was helping other folks with their battered images. And when I say "prior to", I mean he was doing it last Friday. You see, Ruszkowski is a vice-president at Fleishman-Hillard Canada Inc -- image consultants. As such, he had a lot of high-powered clients with very serious image problems. As of this past Friday, May 7, Ruszkowski was lobbying on behalf of Royal Lepage Relocation Services, and the government agencies he lobbied included National Defence, Public Works and Government Services Canada, Royal Canadian Mounted Police, and the Treasury Board of Canada. Why these agencies? Well, in November 2006, the Auditor General reported on problems in which the Liberal government awarded the 2004 contract to handle government employee relocations to Royal Lepage: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...y/National/home Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
cybercoma Posted May 10, 2007 Report Posted May 10, 2007 Who cares about the stylists already! Hasn't this been obvious from day 1 that these people have stylists and speaking coaches, etc? Quote
Shakeyhands Posted May 10, 2007 Report Posted May 10, 2007 Can you really not see a difference between an image consultant and a stylist? Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Michael Bluth Posted May 10, 2007 Report Posted May 10, 2007 Can you really not see a difference between an image consultant and a stylist? The title is irrelevant. One could do the same job with either title. Unless you have some magic insight you are dying to share. Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
Shakeyhands Posted May 10, 2007 Report Posted May 10, 2007 btw, where does it say that Dion has an image consultant again? I looked quickly and could only find diction coach which he does need becasue some of you can't understand him. \ http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...y/National/home I did however see that Harper wears makeup and needs help dressing himself ( :-) ) http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/stor...18?hub=Politics Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
sharkman Posted May 10, 2007 Author Report Posted May 10, 2007 Using your link, read the title. Don't be surprised to hear Dion not actually say 'new image', since the Liberals were right in there hammering Harper when his image consultant became news. He wouldn't want to appear a hypocrite, but he is one. Quote
Shakeyhands Posted May 10, 2007 Report Posted May 10, 2007 Using your link, read the title. Don't be surprised to hear Dion not actually say 'new image', since the Liberals were right in there hammering Harper when his image consultant became news. He wouldn't want to appear a hypocrite, but he is one. No the Liberals hammered him on clothing and make up and who was paying for it, none of us would disagree that his image needs alot of work. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
normanchateau Posted May 10, 2007 Report Posted May 10, 2007 But then again, Stephen Harper's weight is fair game while Stephane Dion's atrocious English isn't. But then again, to others Stephane Dion's English is fair game but Stephen Harper's social conservatism is no longer an acceptable topic for debate. Quote
Michael Bluth Posted May 10, 2007 Report Posted May 10, 2007 But then again, to others Stephane Dion's English is fair game but Stephen Harper's social conservatism is no longer an acceptable topic for debate. Social conservatism in his policies or governance is more than fair game. Social conservatism as a scare tactic with no connection to reality. No that shouldn't be fair game. Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
scribblet Posted May 10, 2007 Report Posted May 10, 2007 Social conservatism as a scare tactic with no connection to reality. No that shouldn't be fair game. You can say that again, repeated lies about Harper being a 'so-con.' doesn't make it so. He's more liberal these days than Martin. - Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
normanchateau Posted May 10, 2007 Report Posted May 10, 2007 But then again, to others Stephane Dion's English is fair game but Stephen Harper's social conservatism is no longer an acceptable topic for debate. Social conservatism in his policies or governance is more than fair game. Social conservatism as a scare tactic with no connection to reality. No that shouldn't be fair game. So you think the December, 2006 vote designed to take away the legislated rights of many Canadians to marry has nothing to do with either policies or governance? It was despicable enough that Harper, as leader of the Opposition, voted against granting these marriage rights. But he went much further when, as Prime Minister, he attempted to take away previously legislated human rights. Quote
Michael Bluth Posted May 10, 2007 Report Posted May 10, 2007 You can say that again, repeated lies about Harper being a 'so-con.' doesn't make it so. He's more liberal these days than Martin. - You can't debate rumours of what he might do. You can only debate what he has done or what he has announced he plans to do. That's a pretty fair way of drawing the line between honest debate and *scary* *scary* *scary*. Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
normanchateau Posted May 10, 2007 Report Posted May 10, 2007 You can say that again, repeated lies about Harper being a 'so-con.' doesn't make it so. He's more liberal these days than Martin. - You can't debate rumours of what he might do. You can only debate what he has done or what he has announced he plans to do. I'm happy to debate what he has done. How about if we debate his voting to deny making it a hate crime to advocate or promote the killing of homosexuals? Quote
Shakeyhands Posted May 10, 2007 Report Posted May 10, 2007 Using your link, read the title. Don't be surprised to hear Dion not actually say 'new image', since the Liberals were right in there hammering Harper when his image consultant became news. He wouldn't want to appear a hypocrite, but he is one. The title does not follow in the article. Diction and policy along with team member changes are not even close to what Stephen(ie) Harper is doing with his makeup. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Michael Bluth Posted May 10, 2007 Report Posted May 10, 2007 I'm happy to debate what he has done.How about if we debate his voting to deny making it a hate crime to advocate or promote the killing of homosexuals? Start a new thread. Provide some links. Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
sharkman Posted May 10, 2007 Author Report Posted May 10, 2007 You can say that again, repeated lies about Harper being a 'so-con.' doesn't make it so. He's more liberal these days than Martin. - You can't debate rumours of what he might do. You can only debate what he has done or what he has announced he plans to do. I'm happy to debate what he has done. How about if we debate his voting to deny making it a hate crime to advocate or promote the killing of homosexuals? Maybe you harper harppies should get on the same page before you start debating. One claims Harper is more liberal than Martin, another claims he's a capital C conservative. Make up your minds! Quote
normanchateau Posted May 10, 2007 Report Posted May 10, 2007 I'm happy to debate what he has done.How about if we debate his voting to deny making it a hate crime to advocate or promote the killing of homosexuals? Start a new thread. Provide some links. There are old threads dealing with this topic. Here is Bill C-250 which Stephen Harper voted against: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_C-250 Quote
sharkman Posted May 11, 2007 Author Report Posted May 11, 2007 Using your link, read the title. Don't be surprised to hear Dion not actually say 'new image', since the Liberals were right in there hammering Harper when his image consultant became news. He wouldn't want to appear a hypocrite, but he is one. The title does not follow in the article. Diction and policy along with team member changes are not even close to what Stephen(ie) Harper is doing with his makeup. Yes, it's not immediately clear if Dion realizes that he looks like a school teacher. Hopefully along with the English lessons and not reading his questions from a list (something a school teacher would do), his handlers are going to do something about the way he looks. Other than that, the story says such things as: "...as he sets out to repair his battered image after narrowly escaping a spring election." "...bombarded with poor reviews of his performance." "...the Liberal Leader is responding to a wobbly spring performance..." "The revamping of the tactics and communications is a tacit admission that Mr. Dion had a troubled performance in early spring, senior insiders said." "He has accepted now that he needs to change." It actually sounds a whole lot worse than a simple make over. Good luck with that. Quote
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