Pedophiles

[WillyNilly]

Convicted pedophile sought in case of missing boy

Updated Mon. Jul. 31 2006 2:48 PM ET

CTV.ca News Staff

The RCMP have issued a Canada-wide arrest warrant for a convicted Ontario pedophile suspected in the abduction of a boy in Saskatchewan, who is still missing.

The Mounties also laid a charge of abduction against 35-year-old Peter Whitmore on Monday in the disappearance of 10-year-old Zachary Miller of Whitewood, Sask.

Whitmore is described as white, about six feet tall with a heavy build. He may be driving a 1988 blue Dodge Caravan with wood panelling and Alberta plate CUS 532.

Police say he may be accompanied by a missing aboriginal youth.

Jordan Bruyere, 14, was last seen July 22 in Brandon, Manitoba.

Bruyere is described as 5'6" tall, 150 pounds, with blue-green eyes and brown hair.

Bruyere's mother, Joannie Robinson, says Whitmore travelled with her son and her husband to Brandon.

She says Whitmore convinced her husband to return to Winnipeg alone and promised to return later with the boy, but never did.

Whitmore is well known in Ontario for a string of high-profile sex assault convictions against children. He was first convicted in 1993 of abduction and five sexual offences involving four young boys and spent 16 months in custody.

Nine days after his release, he took an eight-year-old girl from Guelph, Ont., to Toronto, and was sentenced to 56 months in prison.

Less than a month after his November 2000 release, he was found in a downtown Toronto motel with a 13-year-old boy. He was sentenced to one year in jail.

In 2002 he fled to British Columbia in an attempt to avoid the media spotlight in Ontario after he was found in the company of a five-year-old boy.

In B.C., he pleaded guilty to parole violations because a "rape kit" had been found on him.

A search of Whitmore's backpack turned up latex gloves, pictures of young children, tubes of jelly lubricant, duct tape, a sleeping bag and plastic zipper ties that can be used as handcuffs.

WHEN is Canada going to crack down on pedophiles and stop letting them out to reoffend? I think we should bring back the death penalty, for child molesters and murderers.

Reoffend, what a benign word to describe the horrors these children go through, being kidnapped, beaten, raped, forced to perform oral sex, sodimized, brutalized, starved, passed from one pedophile to another, photographed, humiliated and terrorized , their little bodies ripped to pieces during sexual attacks as they scream and no one hears them, no one saves them.

Then the Judge, even when these depraved animals are caught, gives them a few years and sets these predators free on our children again. Kill the bastards.

[jdobbin]

Then the Judge, even when these depraved animals are caught, gives them a few years and sets these predators free on our children again. Kill the bastards.

This suspect certainly looks like he fits the description of someone who would re-offend. However, sexual abuse falls below other crimes when it comes to re-offending.

Hopefully, they will catch this guy soon.

This thing that is happening in our society is a lot more than just a crime. It is something that has to be rooted out early and treated before things are acted on.

[newbie]

Ball's in the Con's court now.

[Guest Warwick Green]

Then the Judge, even when these depraved animals are caught, gives them a few years and sets these predators free on our children again. Kill the bastards.

This suspect certainly looks like he fits the description of someone who would re-offend. However, sexual abuse falls below other crimes when it comes to re-offending.

Hopefully, they will catch this guy soon.

This thing that is happening in our society is a lot more than just a crime. It is something that has to be rooted out early and treated before things are acted on.

We are obvioulsy not going to be executing them. But there must be some way of keeping electronic tabs on them after release. Certainly it's a crime where three strikes and you are out should apply.

[watching&waiting]

I am all for castration after the third offence, but that only addresses the physical side of the problem. The state of mind of the pedophile is a much harer thing to address.

If I had my way chemical castration after first offence and all during his realease on parole. If a second offence happens we would need to use chemical castration with some othe mind satblizing treatment. If third offence then physical castration and some kind of mind adversion therapy. I do not think that anyone should be released after the third time, with out full screening to say they have gotten beyond this. If they can not be sure then they should stay in jail until they can control all their tendencies.

Fouth offences would just mean jail for life without any chance of parole. The only way they would leave would be in a casket.

[jdobbin]

We are obvioulsy not going to be executing them. But there must be some way of keeping electronic tabs on them after release. Certainly it's a crime where three strikes and you are out should apply.

I think in this guy's case, there may have merit in keeping him in jail under a rarely used dangerous offender law that has no provisions for release.

[Shakeyhands]

We are obvioulsy not going to be executing them. But there must be some way of keeping electronic tabs on them after release. Certainly it's a crime where three strikes and you are out should apply.

I think in this guy's case, there may have merit in keeping him in jail under a rarely used dangerous offender law that has no provisions for release.

I think thats exactly whats going to happen in this case. Hopefully.

[Guest Warwick Green]

I am all for castration after the third offence, but that only addresses the physical side of the problem. The state of mind of the pedophile is a much harer thing to address.

If I had my way chemical castration after first offence and all during his realease on parole. If a second offence happens we would need to use chemical castration with some othe mind satblizing treatment. If third offence then physical castration and some kind of mind adversion therapy. I do not think that anyone should be released after the third time, with out full screening to say they have gotten beyond this. If they can not be sure then they should stay in jail until they can control all their tendencies.

Fouth offences would just mean jail for life without any chance of parole. The only way they would leave would be in a casket.

Second offence - chemical castration, electronic bracelets and any other such measures.

Third offence - he's dead meat - throw away the key.

[theloniusfleabag]

I think in this guy's case, there may have merit in keeping him in jail under a rarely used dangerous offender law that has no provisions for release.

Sadly, there is no provision for the 'dangerous offender' classification to keep him locked up beyond his sentences. It only applies to convictions where the sentence was 10 yrs or more. The law needs to be changed first. I rather hope some father of an abused child (or a group of them) manages to catch him before the police do...

[jdobbin]

I think in this guy's case, there may have merit in keeping him in jail under a rarely used dangerous offender law that has no provisions for release.

Sadly, there is no provision for the 'dangerous offender' classification to keep him locked up beyond his sentences. It only applies to convictions where the sentence was 10 yrs or more. The law needs to be changed first. I rather hope some father of an abused child (or a group of them) catch him before the police do...

Hmm, what about that young woman was was locked up in Alberta under that provision? Her sentence was never over two years originally.

I'm not expert on the criminal code but when that case and others came up, lawyers were saying that it was possible under the law to deem someone a dangerous offender for a minor offence and keep them in jail indefinitely.

[theloniusfleabag]

Hmm, what about that young woman was was locked up in Alberta under that provision? Her sentence was never over two years originally.

I'm not expert on the criminal code but when that case and others came up, lawyers were saying that it was possible under the law to deem someone a dangerous offender for a minor offence and keep them in jail indefinitely.

from...

http://www.cbc.ca/news/viewpoint/vp_weinrath/

How does someone get designated a dangerous offender?

An offender who has been convicted of a serious personal injury offence may be declared as a dangerous offender (DO) after going through a court hearing initiated by a Crown prosecutor. The personal injury offence must be punishable by 10 years imprisonment or more. Examples include manslaughter, attempted murder, aggravated assault and aggravated sexual assault. You cannot be declared a dangerous offender for a minor assault.

If you have a link to your story contrary to this info, please post it.

[WillyNilly]

Fouth offences would just mean jail for life without any chance of parole. The only way they would leave would be in a casket.

Why should this kind of scum get the chance to destroy four children's lives and their families? And in most cases when they get to court, its multiple offenses. There is not rationale for giving them even a second chance. They are just going to go out and molest or murder another child.

The safety of our children should be the first priority, not the rights of this scum.

[Guest Warwick Green]

Fouth offences would just mean jail for life without any chance of parole. The only way they would leave would be in a casket.

Why should this kind of scum get the chance to destroy four children's lives and their families? And in most cases when they get to court, its multiple offenses. There is not rationale for giving them even a second chance. They are just going to go out and molest or murder another child.

The safety of our children should be the first priority, not the rights of this scum.

No offence in Canada gets lifetime without parole for a first offence - not even murder. And this won't either. Any law will provide at least a second chance and the issue should be the protections in place after he is released.

[Wilber]

Five convictions and working on his sixth. It just blows me away that this country can't seem to protect its children from these creeps, even after this many offenses. What a sad state of affairs.

[jdobbin]

http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/200...st-tuesday.html

The young boy has been found alive. They youth and the sex offender are still missing although police may have them cornered.

[FTA Lawyer]

Sadly, there is no provision for the 'dangerous offender' classification to keep him locked up beyond his sentences. It only applies to convictions where the sentence was 10 yrs or more. The law needs to be changed first. I rather hope some father of an abused child (or a group of them) manages to catch him before the police do...

thelonius...you are wrong...

DO and LTO Definitions

Note that a "serious personal injury offence" does not include murder and is one that is indictable and punishable by 10 years or more...it is not necessary for the offender to actually get sentenced to 10 years. Further, the definition includes both offences which involve actual or attempted violence, and offences which involve "conduct endangering or likely to endanger the life or safety of another person or inflicting or likely to inflict severe psychological damage upon another person".

In addition to the above, sexual assault, sexual assault with a weapon or threats and aggravated sexual assault are specifically defined as "serious personal injury offences" even if they are not indictable (and therefore punishable by only 18 months maximum).

As an aside...if a Dangerous Offender application cannot be made, the Crown can seek to declare someone a "Long Term Offender" by the same type of process. This allows someone to be supervised closely in the community for up to 10 years after their sentence. For an LTO, any offence can trigger the application, so long as the person gets a sentence of 2 years or more and they are a substantial risk to re-offend and there remains a reasonable possibility of eventual control of the risk in the community.

Now, before everyone goes off about why murder is not a "serious personal injury offence" it is because the term is defined specifically to set up DO proceedings. It would be redundant to seek a DO declaration for a convicted murderer because such a person is already subject to indeterminate imprisonment (i.e. the punishment for murder is an automatic life sentence).

jdobbin...you are less wrong than thelonius...

It is incorrect to say that a DO leaves "no provisions for release". The DO designation just means that the prisoner has no established entitlement to release...and he could be kept indefinitely. It is possible, however, for release to happen in the right circumstances.

FTA

[jdobbin]

jdobbin...you are less wrong than thelonius...

It is incorrect to say that a DO leaves "no provisions for release". The DO designation just means that the prisoner has no established entitlement to release...and he could be kept indefinitely. It is possible, however, for release to happen in the right circumstances.

FTA

Ah, as I said. I'm no lawyer. And the girl in Alberta that was charged under this law was eventually released. But it was *very* difficult to say the least. Had newspapers and Tv not taken an interest in the case, it might have been longer.

It just seems odd that the people this should have this law appled to them never get designated as such.

[geoffrey]

First sex crime, 10 years. Second, 20 years. Third, throw away the key.

Sentences should be served end to end as well. No more abusing 3 or 4 kids and only going to jail for 4 years because that's the max.

Castration seems reasonable too.

Most importantly though, with violent crimes Canada needs a 3 strikes rule.

[Guest Warwick Green]

First sex crime, 10 years. Second, 20 years. Third, throw away the key.

Sentences should be served end to end as well. No more abusing 3 or 4 kids and only going to jail for 4 years because that's the max.

Castration seems reasonable too.

Most importantly though, with violent crimes Canada needs a 3 strikes rule.

A second chance is a foregone conclusion; not sure about a third.

[geoffrey]

First sex crime, 10 years. Second, 20 years. Third, throw away the key.

Sentences should be served end to end as well. No more abusing 3 or 4 kids and only going to jail for 4 years because that's the max.

Castration seems reasonable too.

Most importantly though, with violent crimes Canada needs a 3 strikes rule.

A second chance is a foregone conclusion; not sure about a third.

Well that's 30 years in jail before getting out. I feel that's marginally reasonable. Maybe castrated on second offense.

[theloniusfleabag]

Dear FTA Lawyer,

thelonius...you are wrong...

Thank you for setting the record straight. IThe information I posted was from a story on the CBC news, wish I had posted the link. Either I misread the article, or the article itself was erroneous.

I do hope that the events of recent days leads to a serious overhaul of our justice system.

[geoffrey]

There hasn't been major changes since Mayerthorpe though, so hopefully things get done fast before the novelty of the moment is destroyed.

I can't wait to see the NDP oppose a bill that locks up pedophiles, I can see their support dropping below 5%. And they will.

[Hicksey]

Nothing will be done about pedophiles until Canadians get rid of the ridiculous idea that if we're just nicer to them, criminals will not commit crimes. Nothing will be done until the warped image of criminals being people who commit crimes because they are forced into such a life is irradicated from society. I don't know why but it seems to me that people have a romantic view of criminals and that criminals are not to be punished, but pitied.

And as long as the Liberals or NDP are in power, those changes will never happen.

[jdobbin]

And as long as the Liberals or NDP are in power, those changes will never happen.

This latest pedophile has been out there on the loose under the Conservatives.

[Hicksey]

And as long as the Liberals or NDP are in power, those changes will never happen.

This latest pedophile has been out there on the loose under the Conservatives.

I didn't say that Harper or his government had done anything to change that yet. But, you have to admit that the conservatives are the only ones even giving lipservice to the idea, let alone doing anythying about it. Under that premise I surmise there is faint hope, which is more than we would have under either the Liberals or NDP.