Is there a conspiracy between electronics manufacturers?

[Fluffypants]

Im being serious here there must be, in the old days anything anything wireless, batteries not included and if they give you batteries they were the worst batteries they could find.

Now everything is rechargeable "Adapter not included". They give you the damn wire(which is always too short) but nothing to connect it to, so you have to hope you have the right adapter (which they are constantly changing) for the damn thing or you have go out and buy one.

Its like electronics makers have this sick joke that they will never sell you a complete anything.

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Fluffypants said:

Im being serious here there must be, in the old days anything anything wireless, batteries not included and if they give you batteries they were the worst batteries they could find.

Now everything is rechargeable "Adapter not included". They give you the damn wire(which is always too short) but nothing to connect it to, so you have to hope you have the right adapter (which they are constantly changing) for the damn thing or you have go out and buy one.

Its like electronics makers have this sick joke that they will never sell you a complete anything.

It's called CAPITALISM. They sell the cheap Chinese JUNK.

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Fluffypants said:

Im being serious here there must be, in the old days anything anything wireless, batteries not included and if they give you batteries they were the worst batteries they could find.

Now everything is rechargeable "Adapter not included". They give you the damn wire(which is always too short) but nothing to connect it to, so you have to hope you have the right adapter (which they are constantly changing) for the damn thing or you have go out and buy one.

Its like electronics makers have this sick joke that they will never sell you a complete anything.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoebus_cartel

• The cartel took over market territories and lowered the useful life of such bulbs, which is commonly cited as an example of planned obsolescence.^[1]

  Corporations based in Europe and the United States, including Tungsram, Osram, General Electric, Associated Electrical Industries, and Philips,^[2] incorporated the cartel on 15 January 1925 in Geneva,^[3] as Phœbus S.A.

 

 

My apologies, robo, for highlighting your ignorance again. 

Edited January 4 by WestCanMan

[Legato]

2 hours ago, Fluffypants said:

Im being serious here there must be, in the old days anything anything wireless, batteries not included and if they give you batteries they were the worst batteries they could find.

Now everything is rechargeable "Adapter not included". They give you the damn wire(which is always too short) but nothing to connect it to, so you have to hope you have the right adapter (which they are constantly changing) for the damn thing or you have go out and buy one.

Its like electronics makers have this sick joke that they will never sell you a complete anything.

Usually LI Ion (3.6v) USB charge (5v). So any USB charger should be good.

We have a bunch of USB chargers.

You can now get 120v wall sockets with USB chargers.

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, Legato said:

You can now get 120v wall sockets with USB chargers.

That's my last hope. 

Everyone here takes my phone chargers all the time, because mine is always beside my bed, so they know where to go after they lose theirs. 

[User]

4 hours ago, Fluffypants said:

Im being serious here there must be, in the old days anything anything wireless, batteries not included and if they give you batteries they were the worst batteries they could find.

Now everything is rechargeable "Adapter not included". They give you the damn wire(which is always too short) but nothing to connect it to, so you have to hope you have the right adapter (which they are constantly changing) for the damn thing or you have go out and buy one.

Its like electronics makers have this sick joke that they will never sell you a complete anything.

No conspiracy, just cutting costs where they can to lower the price. 

[eyeball]

4 hours ago, Fluffypants said:

Its like electronics makers have this sick joke that they will never sell you a complete anything.

Just cutting quality where they can to increase profits, no conspiracy, just piranha being piranha.  

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoebus_cartel

• The cartel took over market territories and lowered the useful life of such bulbs, which is commonly cited as an example of planned obsolescence.^[1]

  Corporations based in Europe and the United States, including Tungsram, Osram, General Electric, Associated Electrical Industries, and Philips,^[2] incorporated the cartel on 15 January 1925 in Geneva,^[3] as Phœbus S.A.

 

 

My apologies, robo, for highlighting your ignorance again. 

Citing a story from 1925, is NOT RELEVANT TODAY.

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Is the Phoebus cartel still active?

 

 

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No, the original Phoebus Cartel is not active; it effectively dissolved around World War II (1939-1940) due to war making international cooperation impossible, but its legacy of "planned obsolescence" in limiting product lifespans, particularly for light bulbs to about 1,000 hours, continues to influence modern manufacturing and business models today.  

Do you understand now? LMAO

[Legato]

2 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Citing a story from 1925, is NOT RELEVANT TODAY.

Do you understand now? LMAO

Why do always connect a 240v bulb to 12v. It comes across as being rather dim.

[robosmith]

25 minutes ago, Legato said:

Why do always connect a 240v bulb to 12v. It comes across as being rather dim.

Since I have no 240v bulbs, IDK why your bulbs are always dim.

[herbie]

They've always pulled this bullshit.
Remember before printers were wireless? They never gave you the printer cable? Even in the USB days we tossed in the cable, they cost us like 80 cents. The guys that drove 200 miles to 'save' at BestBuy and Staples were either not told they needed one or sold a $49 gold plated Monster cable or if they didn't make another trip back (most did) bought a &9.99 cable from us.
The PCs with no OEM disk to reinstall Windows 
The 55" TV we got that came with 'Tlademark' brand batteries in the remote.
The Raspberry Pi dealers that debundle the power adapter that's needed and sell it for more than a Pi3 kit cost.
The Amazon USB 5W power adapter.that only puts out 5W at 12 Volts which is not USB standard... that's 5V

Or how they still lie on audio stuff quoting peak to peak wattage rather than RMS now there's a market of car audio ignoroids to sell to.

But what do you expect selling to people who won't learn the slightest shit? Know how much money I made over the years off people who can't figure out to plug the blue plug in the blue hole, the red into the red, the square into the square, the round in the round or confused over 'what' USB port to use?

Hell it's a fundamental basic of capitalism. I coulda bought the $289 MOPAR thermostat for my Jeep if I didn't see the alternatives that started at $23 on Amazon. Not likely I'll burn though 12 of them before I die!