Slavery- a new old economic model?

[Nationalist]

7 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

Look, the writing is on the wall, if you care to see it. First, cast political opposition as subhuman “radical lunatics” that do not deserve the right of law, captured nicely by a 30-second floor speech Representative Bob Onder (R-MO) that makes it clear the opposition must be eliminated:

“If we didn't know it already, there is no longer any middle ground. Some of them American left are undoubtedly well-meaning people. But their ideology is pure evil. They hate the good, the truth, and the beautiful, and embrace the evil, the false, and the ugly.”

Then prep the military brass about the expectations put on them - enforce Trump’s agenda or put their positions at risk:

“We’re under invasion from within,” Trump said. “No different than a foreign enemy … I signed an order for a quick reaction force to help quell civil disturbances. That’s going to be a big thing for people in this room. It’s a war from within.”

Have a look at the National Security Presidential Memorandum NSM-7 (September 25) – which takes a whole-government approach not to reacting to acts of terrorism – but plans to go after those that the Trump administration says could be sources of terrorism – i.e. anyone who opposes Trumps’ policies. How many times has Trump called Democrats terrorists?

The memorandum says they will go after a wide range of people, including “anti-capitalists” and those with “hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on family, religion, and morality,” – and who will be decided by the Trump administration - all as they rapidly expand surveillance state against the administration’s critics.

Ahhh...so you Libbies pointed the law at Republicans and now it's being pointed back at you and you're now upset.

Suck it up you twerp. You id1ots begged for this.

[Radiorum]

6 minutes ago, John Stone said:

The Nazi were a legitimate elected government  - let me put it another way - Democracy ushered in the Nazi party

Yes, it is more common than we would like - government gets elected by democratic means, but once in power, the levers of government are bent away from the people to the ruler.

In fact, the decline of democracy around the world currently is a real concern 

 

https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world/2022/global-expansion-authoritarian-rule

[User]

58 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

 

I dunno, Trump is the guy who asked his Joint Chiefs of Staff, in all serious, about protestors, "Can't you just shoot 'em? Just shoot 'em in the legs or something?"

 

So. You have no answer, only distractions. 

[Nationalist]

28 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

Yes, it is more common than we would like - government gets elected by democratic means, but once in power, the levers of government are bent away from the people to the ruler.

In fact, the decline of democracy around the world currently is a real concern 

 

https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world/2022/global-expansion-authoritarian-rule

LOL...

Come on Tweenkie-Poo...decline of Democracy?

Go peddle your silly fear-porn somewhere else.

[Radiorum]

1 minute ago, User said:

So. You have no answer, only distractions. 

 

You really need to examine why you feel you must go to all lengths to protect Trump in all things, even to the point of dismissing reality.

[User]

4 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

 

You really need to examine why you feel you must go to all lengths to protect Trump in all things, even to the point of dismissing reality.

Protect him from what? You offered nothing. 

[Deluge]

4 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

You really need to examine why you feel you must go to all lengths to protect Trump in all things, even to the point of dismissing reality.

And you need to examine your TDS - that is what's at war with reality. Have you taken your meds this morning? 

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Radiorum said:

 

You really need to examine why you feel you must go to all lengths to protect Trump in all things, even to the point of dismissing reality.

Nobody is protecting Trump. We're opposing your asinine ideas.

[John Stone]

1 hour ago, User said:

Protect him from what? You offered nothing. 

Trump is legitimate - so was Hitler - not so much Stalin. 

[gatomontes99]

2 hours ago, Radiorum said:

Do you think the "I was just following orders" is a valid defense against committing war crimes?

I know it is. It is called the Nuremberg defense. 

 

[User]

8 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

I know it is. It is called the Nuremberg defense. 

 

That doesn’t make it valid, it just means they tried to use it. It was rejected. 

[Deluge]

2 hours ago, Radiorum said:

Yes, it is more common than we would like - government gets elected by democratic means, but once in power, the levers of government are bent away from the people to the ruler.

In fact, the decline of democracy around the world currently is a real concern 

 

https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world/2022/global-expansion-authoritarian-rule

The U.S. has a "democrat" problem, as "democracy (mob rule) seems to be the only f*cking thing these people think about. Nevermind that the US is a constitutional republic, just so long as democracy (mob rule) is front and center. 

 

[gatomontes99]

52 minutes ago, User said:

That doesn’t make it valid, it just means they tried to use it. It was rejected. 

Not in all cases. 

Let's say you are told to bomb a building. There is nothing illegal about that. After the fact, it is determined you bombed a school. 

Conversely, let's say you are ordered to raid a school and kill all the kids. 

Nuremberg applies in the first, but not the second. The difference is a clear violation of military code. Should it be known that the bombing was of a school with no military goal, then the Nuremberg defense would not apply. 

As for what Trump has done, there is no clear violation. There is only lwnj fairy tales. 

[User]

49 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Not in all cases. 

Let's say you are told to bomb a building. There is nothing illegal about that. After the fact, it is determined you bombed a school. 

Conversely, let's say you are ordered to raid a school and kill all the kids. 

Nuremberg applies in the first, but not the second. The difference is a clear violation of military code. Should it be known that the bombing was of a school with no military goal, then the Nuremberg defense would not apply. 

As for what Trump has done, there is no clear violation. There is only lwnj fairy tales. 

This isn’t what we are talking about, when we were talking about the “I was just following orders” defense in carrying out atrocities against people.

Now you are changing the defense to ignorance, or not knowing, these are completely different. 

 

[gatomontes99]

9 minutes ago, User said:

This isn’t what we are talking about, when we were talking about the “I was just following orders” defense in carrying out atrocities against people.

Now you are changing the defense to ignorance, or not knowing, these are completely different. 

 

No I am not. I am applying it to the current discussion. 

[User]

2 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

No I am not. I am applying it to the current discussion. 

Sigh… no. We were clearly talking about the defense of “I was just following orders” in the context of the Nuremberg trials and you saying it was “valid” and I pointed out it wasn’t valid. It was in fact rejected, because just claiming you were following orders isn’t an excuse for knowingly doing awful things to people.

Your then saying, well, what if they didn’t know… is a completely different defense. 

[CdnFox]

6 hours ago, Radiorum said:

Look, the writing is on the wall, if you care to see it. First, cast political opposition as subhuman “radical lunatics” that do not deserve the right of law

Yeah that was basically every democrat towards every republican in the last decade.

The entire democratic and left wing narrative is that The right are nothing but subhumans that we don't have to listen to.

Trudeau said that the people who disagreed with him about the vaccine we're racistswoman haters and they shouldn't be tolerated. Kamala's entire campaign when she wasn't giggling is that trump and his supporters were Nazis. For Hillary it was that all trump supporters were "deplorables". 

Hell even Mike Hardner here calls anyone on the right he does't like a 'Chud" and subhuman. 

It's ubiquitous on the left. Is 24/7. The left is constantly in a state of trying to dehumanize their opponents and pretend that means that they don't have to listen to them.

So if you feel that tactic is now being used against you or the left, you really have nowhere to complain. You're over a decade too late

[Radiorum]

23 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Yeah that was basically every democrat towards every republican in the last decade.

The entire democratic and left wing narrative is that The right are nothing but subhumans that we don't have to listen to.

Trudeau said that the people who disagreed with him about the vaccine we're racistswoman haters and they shouldn't be tolerated. Kamala's entire campaign when she wasn't giggling is that trump and his supporters were Nazis. For Hillary it was that all trump supporters were "deplorables". 

Hell even Mike Hardner here calls anyone on the right he does't like a 'Chud" and subhuman. 

It's ubiquitous on the left. Is 24/7. The left is constantly in a state of trying to dehumanize their opponents and pretend that means that they don't have to listen to them.

So if you feel that tactic is now being used against you or the left, you really have nowhere to complain. You're over a decade too late

 

First - it's not about me. I don't think I have ever made it about me. (The Right, though, tends to do that a lot.) Do not make me responsible for all the crazies out there, but only hold me to my own words. Heck, for any lunatic leftist, I can give you the extremist words of two rightists. But I have concentrated on what leadership is doing. I've yet to get any valid rebuttal or counterpoints to all the things I have posted about Trump.

If Trump has ever been called a "Nazi" it was in reaction to something "Nazi-like" that he said or did. The truth is that he has demonstrated a lot of fascist tendencies and behaviors, and he's been called out on that. Do not shoot the messenger, but heed the message.

No Democrat in leadership comes even close to the things Trump has said or done.

 

[User]

3 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

I've yet to get any valid rebuttal or counterpoints to all the things I have posted about Trump.

LOL, sure. I’ve given you that here and in other threads. You run away or try to change the subject. 

[Radiorum]

Just now, User said:

LOL, sure. I’ve given you that here and in other threads.

Only in your imagination

[User]

Just now, Radiorum said:

Only in your imagination

 

[Radiorum]

From criticism. Do I have to explain everything to you?

[User]

2 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

From criticism. Do I have to explain everything to you?

You don’t have to do anything. It would be nice if you honestly engaged, responded to things instead of running away. 

[Legato]

9 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

 

First - it's not about me. I don't think I have ever made it about me. (The Right, though, tends to do that a lot.) Do not make me responsible for all the crazies out there, but only hold me to my own words. Heck, for any lunatic leftist, I can give you the extremist words of two rightists. But I have concentrated on what leadership is doing. I've yet to get any valid rebuttal or counterpoints to all the things I have posted about Trump.

If Trump has ever been called a "Nazi" it was in reaction to something "Nazi-like" that he said or did. The truth is that he has demonstrated a lot of fascist tendencies and behaviors, and he's been called out on that. Do not shoot the messenger, but heed the message.

No Democrat in leadership comes even close to the things Trump has said or done.

 

Why would anyone in their right mind heed any "messages" from someone exhibiting stage 5 TDS symptoms.

That whole concept goes against the grain of any logical discussion.

 

 

[Radiorum]

11 minutes ago, User said:

You don’t have to do anything. It would be nice if you honestly engaged, responded to things instead of running away. 

Lol, sorry if I hurt your feelings.

So, then, do you think slavery is the answer to American problems? How do we ignore the little thing called human dignity?

10 minutes ago, Legato said:

Why would anyone in their right mind heed any "messages" from someone

The messages aren't from me. They are an accurate reporting of the things that the Trump administration has said or done that are highly dangerous to America and what the country was founded on.