Should CPP start at 67?

[Barquentine]

On 10/4/2025 at 2:35 PM, CdnFox said:

what they want is the minimum wage earners to continue to improve their skills

No, what they want is to suppress wages and unfortunately it works. Couple that with poor education systems (mostly Republican) and you've got a share-owner's dream.

[cougar]

On 9/27/2025 at 1:07 PM, herbie said:

Why not make it 80?

We can raise the retirement age even higher to 95 for men and 101 for women.

Whoever qualifies can collect the jackpot CPP for all those that did not. 😄

[CdnFox]

14 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa.. Oh, you're always good for a laugh.

Whooops!!  Looks like you blew out a fuse in your brain again, and it isn't even noon yet  

I noticed you couldn't actually rebut anything I said   This is always how people on the left wind up admitting defeat, they can't think of anything to write, they know they're wrong, so they pretend to laugh and hope nobody notices they couldn't actually say anything    LOL  I accept your surrender  

 

 

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What percent of the working population, exactly?

Hard to say exactly. They estimate there was about 12,000 employees who became millionaires just working for them with stock options and such and profit sharing, something like another hundred thousand through investment, but it can blur a bit because some of the employees also invested

And every one of those people spent a good hunk of their money on the local economy, creating more millionaires and creating wealth for people and jobs. 

So the actual impact on people's income and job and wealth creation probably runs into the millions. And that's one company and one guy. 

And that tends to be how it works. The handful of people start a company and they all become super rich, hundreds around them become very rich, thousands around them become very wealthy, hundreds of thousands around them enjoy stronger wealth and better jobs. All of that extra tax revenue means that even the poorest tend to benefit as the governments have more money available for programs.

I assume you were hoping there would be some sort of different answer. But the fact is wealthy people drag everyone else up normally, they don't drag people down as a rule. They're like a mountain who slopes extend for miles and miles and miles away from The High Point and everybody lives a little higher than they would have

This system has dragged more people out of poverty than any other system in the history of man.

[herbie]

Note how deeply ingrained the -Puritan- Work Ethic is ingrained in some people still.
Oppose early retirements
Oppose more statutory holidays
Oppose personal time offs and sick days
Even oppose minimum wages.

You'd assume they were the employers, not working people at all.

[CdnFox]

9 minutes ago, herbie said:

Note how deeply ingrained the -Puritan- Work Ethic is ingrained in some people still.

You're starting to sound like Myata again.  How are you two doing? Any children yet?

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Oppose early retirements
Oppose more statutory holidays
Oppose personal time offs and sick days
Even oppose minimum wages.

 

 

Nobody's done ANY of that here .You're losing your mind. 

 

[Barquentine]

On 10/6/2025 at 2:37 PM, CdnFox said:

I assume you were hoping there would be some sort of different answer. But the fact is wealthy people drag everyone else up normally, they don't drag people down as a rule. They're like a mountain who slopes extend for miles and miles and miles away from The High Point and everybody lives a little higher than they would have

Yeah, yeah: Trickle down, a rising tide.... Blah blah blah...We've heard it all before and in reality watched wealth disparity grow to the point working class people are at now, something you complain about constantly but always blame on the'libs'. You can't have it both ways.

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Yeah, yeah: Trickle down, a rising tide....

Tell me you don't know how money works with out telling me   

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..We've heard it all before

From other leftie twats who don't understand money  

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and in reality watched wealth disparity grow to the point working class people are at now, something you complain about constantly but always blame on the'libs'. You can't have it both ways.

You absolutely can have it both ways. In fact that's really the only way that happens.  

IN this day and age rich people can't get richer without making other people more wealthy.  BUT - the gov't can absolutely have policies which disproportionally harm the middle class and repress it despite that. 

Case in point, the gov't in the last 10 years allowed population to grow faster than the infrastructure to support it, we didn't build enough homes or medical facilities etc necessary to accommodate that increase.  That puts severe strain on housing, which impacts the rich less but is death for the middle class.  It impacts food which again the rich can absorb easier but the middle class cannot.  Taxes and fees go up and the rich have the ability to protect themselves against that whereas the middle class tends to take it on the chin. 

The rich were doing their jobs. For the longest time wages were slightly outpacing inflation, jobs growth in the private sector was strong, etc.  Now wealth is fleeing our country and has been for a few years now, and the liberals have either taxes or inflated the middle class nearly out of existence. 

Open your eyes. If you want a healthy middle class you need a strong wealthy class who's happy to be here and making lots of investments here.  

YOU can't have it both ways, you can't have no wealth and lots of prosperity. 

And the solution to wealth inequity is not to make the wealthy poorer, it's to help the poor get wealthier.  

[August1991]

On 10/3/2025 at 9:10 PM, CdnFox said:

We already did. We voted for these guys. That's when we got to choose our future. Sorry if you have buyer's remorse  

CdnFox, disagree.

Some individuals/people/families don't save for the future.

A successful/sustainable society saves for all.

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, August1991 said:

CdnFox, disagree.

Some individuals/people/families don't save for the future.

A successful/sustainable society saves for all.

Your statement isn't inaccurate but it doesn't have anything to do with the line that you quoted