Gaétan Posted September 16, 2025 Report Posted September 16, 2025 Forgiveness is an act that protects you, not others. If they do not regret their wrongdoings before death, they will face the consequences. By forgiving someone who has wronged me, I protect myself—I do not protect the one who committed the offense. I am commanded to love my neighbor as myself, and my aggressor is bound by the same commandment. If they fail to uphold it and do not repent, they will bear the consequences. Quote
August1991 Posted September 24, 2025 Report Posted September 24, 2025 On 9/16/2025 at 11:03 AM, Gaétan said: Forgiveness is an act that protects you, not others. If they do not regret their wrongdoings before death, they will face the consequences. By forgiving someone who has wronged me, I protect myself—I do not protect the one who committed the offense. I am commanded to love my neighbor as myself, and my aggressor is bound by the same commandment. If they fail to uphold it and do not repent, they will bear the consequences. Disagree. I foregive until you cheat. ===== Tit-for-tat is a good strategy. Quote
Gaétan Posted October 2, 2025 Author Report Posted October 2, 2025 On 9/23/2025 at 9:08 PM, August1991 said: Disagree. I foregive until you cheat. ===== Tit-for-tat is a good strategy. Others forgive you—until you cheat. The standard of justice you apply to your neighbor applies equally to you. Quote
August1991 Posted October 3, 2025 Report Posted October 3, 2025 On 10/2/2025 at 12:58 AM, Gaétan said: Others forgive you—until you cheat. The standard of justice you apply to your neighbor applies equally to you. Turn the other cheek is fundamental to Christians. It makes Christians different from Jews - and even Muslims. Tit for tat. Quote
August1991 Posted October 4, 2025 Report Posted October 4, 2025 Just now, August1991 said: Turn the other cheek is fundamental to Christians. It makes Christians different from Jews - and even Muslims. Tit for tat. Buddhists do not avoid this fundamental problem. Quote
French Patriot Posted October 8, 2025 Report Posted October 8, 2025 On 10/3/2025 at 7:59 PM, August1991 said: Turn the other cheek is fundamental to Christians. It makes Christians different from Jews - and even Muslims. Tit for tat. In Jewry, it is a form of insulting the slapper. It was not practiced for physical type retaliations, but was used as a debate/discussion tool. It was about slapping ideas around, not faces. The bible is clear where it says it speaks to our minds and our bodies are to gain nothing physical from it or God. Quote
August1991 Posted October 9, 2025 Report Posted October 9, 2025 9 hours ago, French Patriot said: In Jewry, it is a form of insulting the slapper. ... It was about slapping ideas around, not faces. ... The Bible has two "books": The Old Testament (Jewish) and the New Testament (Christian). ==== Sustainable society? I think the lesson of the New Testament is more useful. "I will turn the other cheek until you don't." Tit-for-tat. Quote
French Patriot Posted October 9, 2025 Report Posted October 9, 2025 11 hours ago, August1991 said: The Bible has two "books": The Old Testament (Jewish) and the New Testament (Christian). ==== Sustainable society? I think the lesson of the New Testament is more useful. Why, when it ignores how immoral the messianic concept is in forcing people to abdicate their own responsibility for their sins? They have Jesus looking like an immoral goof who will steal my/our just rewards for or sins. Our death, unless Yahweh lied, is our just rewards for our sins. If Jesus reverses our condemnation, he is reversing a just reward to an unjust one. Right? Quote
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