Chicago Is Next

[gatomontes99]

Trump on possible National Guard deployment to Chicago: "We're going in"

Why is he going in? Oh, because 58 people were shot and 8 died this weekend in Chicago. If that isn't enough, then watch this: 

 

Politics are changing. These people aren't woke, they are awake. They see the violence. They know who is to blame. And they know who.is going to stop it.

The left is against stopping the violence. They are screaming like babies because Trump will stop people from dying. According to Mayor Johnson, using the NG is the wrong way to do it. 

Screw him. People are dying today. We have troops that can stop it, today. Why aren't we doing it? Because the Mayor wants a commission to study what the violence is, where it is and who is doing it so they can put together an after school program and keep rec centers open longer. Are you flipping kidding me? Lock. Them. Up. Make Chicago safe so the kids can play. 

 

 

[Nationalist]

Yup. Chicago, New Orleans, New York, LA.

 

[Legato]

17 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Yup. Chicago, New Orleans, New York, LA.

 

Toronto

[Nationalist]

5 minutes ago, Legato said:

Toronto

Yup. We dont have a Trump though.

We got "Elbows Up".

[gatomontes99]

19 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Yup. We dont have a Trump though.

We got "Elbows Up".

Thats all you need. When you get mugged, just put your elbows up. That'll stop them. 

[Nationalist]

10 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Thats all you need. When you get mugged, just put your elbows up. That'll stop them. 

Yup. Just ask Mike Myers. He'll say whatever you want...for a nominal fee.

 

[Deluge]

2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Trump on possible National Guard deployment to Chicago: "We're going in"

Why is he going in? Oh, because 58 people were shot and 8 died this weekend in Chicago. If that isn't enough, then watch this: 

 

Politics are changing. These people aren't woke, they are awake. They see the violence. They know who is to blame. And they know who.is going to stop it.

The left is against stopping the violence. They are screaming like babies because Trump will stop people from dying. According to Mayor Johnson, using the NG is the wrong way to do it. 

Screw him. People are dying today. We have troops that can stop it, today. Why aren't we doing it? Because the Mayor wants a commission to study what the violence is, where it is and who is doing it so they can put together an after school program and keep rec centers open longer. Are you flipping kidding me? Lock. Them. Up. Make Chicago safe so the kids can play. 

 

 

This is going to be fun.

[paxamericana]

Soooo I'm going to say something controversial here (yeah yeah i know). El Chapo actually helped reduced violent crimes in America because he consolidated the drug cartel in mexico. Then went after the local distribution gangs in America and killed them. He had a business approach to drug selling, don't shoot up the place and help the granny to cross the street. 

Consequently, when we kidnapped him, the violence took off again.

Edited September 3, 2025 by paxamericana

[Moonlight Graham]

Poverty and firearms are a bad combo.

Restrict the firearms and educate the poor is the way out of this.  People who want to ignore facts and statistics should be ignored.  Enforcement of laws is important too but is a reaction to symptoms, not a fix to the cause.  A game of whack-a-mole.

There's far more violent cities in the US than Chicago anyways.   But the dolts in the Trump admin watch FOX News and Facebook memes instead of reading actual statistics and studies.

[Moonlight Graham]

Trump's use of the National Guard in LA was recently ruled unconstitutional.   It's a military unit meant for national emergencies, not basic law enforcement.  Federal crimes are enforced by the FBI anyways, like the RCMP in Canada.

My understanding is municipalities, and states to an extent, are in charge of non-federal crimes in cities.   Trump is ignoring the constitutional and butting in outside the federal government's jurisdiction.  They need to mind their own business.

If he wants to try to organize coordinated efforts between states, cities, and the FBI to fight gang violence and the drug trade that's another story, but that's not what's happening, the feds don't have the authority to bring in the national guard and leapfrog jurisdiction.

I can at least give some credit to the Trump admin for at least trying to clean things up though.  The extreme methods are typically the problem with Trump though, not the end goals.

[robosmith]

18 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Trump's use of the National Guard in LA was recently ruled unconstitutional.   It's a military unit meant for national emergencies, not basic law enforcement.  Federal crimes are enforced by the FBI anyways, like the RCMP in Canada.

My understanding is municipalities, and states to an extent, are in charge of non-federal crimes in cities.   Trump is ignoring the constitutional and butting in outside the federal government's jurisdiction.  They need to mind their own business.

If he wants to try to organize coordinated efforts between states, cities, and the FBI to fight gang violence and the drug trade that's another story, but that's not what's happening, the feds don't have the authority to bring in the national guard and leapfrog jurisdiction.

I can at least give some credit to the Trump admin for at least trying to clean things up though.  The extreme methods are typically the problem with Trump though, not the end goals.

It's a violation of the Posse Comitatus Act which prohibits using military for domestic law enforcement.

But as usual, Trump believes the law doesn't apply to HIM, and so do posters here like gnat girl. 🤮

[gatomontes99]

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

It's a violation of the Posse Comitatus Act which prohibits using military for domestic law enforcement.

But as usual, Trump believes the law doesn't apply to HIM, and so do posters here like gnat girl. 🤮

The Posse Comitatus Act does not apply to the Coast Guard or the National Guard: Wikipedia

[BeaverFever]

This is a perfect example of how fasist the MAGA movement is. Let’s break it doen:

 

1).POTUS has NO CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY to enforce state or local laws and the constitution specifically prohibits federal use of military against US citizens except in cases of insurrection or rebellion.

2) The claim he’s fighting crime is a sad joke. Red states have some of the worst crime rates (Louisiana Alabama and Mississippi are the states with the highest murder rates in the country, St Louis, Kansas City, Memphis and Atlanta are all top 10 murder cities).  Meanwhile crime in Baltimore is at a 50-year low. He’s clearly targeting only Democrat cities for political thuggery. 
 

All while encouraging red states to rig the midterm elections by gerrymandering their electoral districts 5 years ahead of schedule

 

But the MAGA thugs don’t care about any of that, they just want their DEAR LEADER to reign supreme with unchecked power and brutalize anyone who dares oppose him. That’s all that matters to them. 

[gatomontes99]

14 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

1).POTUS has NO CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY to enforce state or local laws and the constitution specifically prohibits federal use of military against US citizens except in cases of insurrection or rebellion.

Oh my gawd. How many lies can you fit into one sentence? 

Article IV Clause 2 establishes the federal government as the Supreme law of the land. Any federal laws that need to be enforced, can be enforced at the local level. 

The NG is not being used to enforce laws. They are being used to support local police and the FBI. 

The NG is not prohibited from use. Neither is the Coast Guard, but that is not relevant.  

14 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

2) The claim he’s fighting crime is a sad joke. Red states have some of the worst crime rates (Louisiana Alabama and Mississippi are the states with the highest murder rates in the country, St Louis, Kansas City, Memphis and Atlanta are all top 10 murder cities).  Meanwhile crime in Baltimore is at a 50-year low. He’s clearly targeting only Democrat cities for political thuggery. 

Because that's where the deaths are:

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 2% of counties have 51% of the murders

This study shows how murders in the United States are heavily concentrated in very small areas. Few appreciate how much of the US has no murders each year.  Murder isn’t a nationwide problem.  It’s a problem in a very small set of urban areas, and any solution must reduce those murders.

 

Most murders occur in blue cities. 

[BeaverFever]

28 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Oh my gawd. How many lies can you fit into one sentence? 

Article IV Clause 2 establishes the federal government as the Supreme law of the land. Any federal laws that need to be enforced, can be enforced at the local level. 

The NG is not being used to enforce laws. They are being used to support local police and the FBI. 

The NG is not prohibited from use. Neither is the Coast Guard, but that is not relevant.  

Oh my GAWD how ignorant can you be?  Another self-educated MAGA who doesn’t know wtf he’s talking about. Shocker. That’s some hilarious gaslighting you got going on there  

Article IV Clause 2 says no such thing and nothing even remotely related. USA is a FEDERAL STATE meaning the federal and state governments are EQUALS , something Republicans never hesitate to assert whenever there is a Democrat president. Whatever happened to conservatives screaming ”STATES RIGHTS!!!”” and the top of their shrill little lungs ever since before the emancipation proclamation?  
 

The FBI also has no jurisdiction to enforce state and local laws. The FBI van only enforce federal laws, interstate crimes, and support local law enforcement with the request and consent of the local/state governments. 
 

Under the Posse Comitatus Act The. FEDERAL government is prohibited from using the military against US citizens, including NG, unless there is an armed insurrection or rebellion. Only STATE governments can employ NG against citizens. 
 

How embarrassed are you to be educated about your own country by a Canadian?

 

THROWBACK THURSDAY :

Remember when batshit Republicans wigged out over JADE HELM?  That was a routine military exercise in Texas during the Obama administration which nutjob Republicans managed to convince themselves was some secret military operation by Obama against republicans   Hilarious how you goons come around 180  the path to fascism goes straight through stupid  

 

 

 

Edited September 4, 2025 by BeaverFever

[gatomontes99]

17 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Oh my GAWD how ignorant can you be?  Another self-educated MAGA who doesn’t know wtf he’s talking about. Shocker. That’s some hilarious gaslighting you got going on there  

Article IV Clause 2 says no such thing and nothing even remotely related. USA is a FEDERAL STATE meaning the federal and state governments are EQUALS , something Republicans never hesitate to assert whenever there is a Democrat president. Whatever happened to conservatives screaming ”STATES RIGHTS!!!”” and the top of their shrill little lungs ever since before the emancipation proclamation?  

Wrong:

https://legalclarity.org/when-can-the-federal-government-take-over-a-state-function/

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artVI-C2-1/ALDE_00013395/

https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/articles/article-vi/clauses/31

At this point, you are just making shìt up and hoping false bravado will suffice. 

18 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

The FBI also has no jurisdiction to enforce state and local laws. The FBI van only enforce federal laws, interstate crimes, and support local law enforcement with the request and consent of the local/state governments. 
 

Quote where I said anything that contradicts that. The game plan in DC was for the FBI to handle federal stuff like gun trafficking, human trafficking, etc. The locals handled the smaller stuff. The NG just supported them with logistics. Being armed was only a show of force/defensive posturing. 

There is no indication that the NG would do anything different in Chicago, if it happens at all. 

21 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Under the Posse Comitatus Act The. FEDERAL government is prohibited from using the military against US citizens, including NG, unless there is an armed insurrection or rebellion. Only STATE governments can employ NG against citizens. 

The NG is a state entity, unless federalized. So they can be used.

Even if they are federalized, they can do logistics and show of force. 

23 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

How embarrassed are you to be educated about your own country by a Canadian?

I mean, you were blatantly wrong so I guess I'll have to wait until it happens to report my feelings. 

 

24 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

THROWBACK THURSDAY :

Remember when batshit Republicans wigged out over JADE HELM?  That was a routine military exercise in Texas during the Obama administration which nutjob Republicans managed to convince themselves was some secret military operation by Obama against republicans   Hilarious how you goons come around 180  the path to fascism goes straight through stupid  

Lmao...never heard of it and I've lived in Texas my whole life. Is it possible you've just found a single nut job that made a video and inflated his value because you needed something to support your unsupported and inaccurate ramblings?

[Aristides]

https://www.newsweek.com/most-dangerous-cities-trump-washington-dc-2112006

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Below are the 30 U.S. cities with at least 100,000 residents that had the highest number of crimes against people, per 100,000, according to the latest FBI data report.

Not all agencies report to the bureau, so the list is not entirely complete. Trump only mentioned two of the following as potential federalization targets: Chicago and Baltimore.

1. Memphis, TN
2. Cleveland, OH
3. Toledo, OH
4. Little Rock, AR
5. Peoria, IL
6. Springfield, IL
7. Detroit, MI
8. Akron, OH
9. Beaumont, TX
10. Rockford, IL
11. Evansville, IN
12. Dayton, OH
13. Nashville, TN
14. Winston-Salem, NC
15. Springfield, MO
16. Chicago, IL
17. Salt Lake City, UT
18. Springfield, MA
19. North Charleston, SC
20. Corpus Christi, TX
21. Tulsa, OK
22. Albany, NY
23. Buffalo, NY
24. Kansas City, MO
25. Shreveport, LA
26. Baltimore, MD
27. Houston, TX
28. New Haven, CT
29. Las Cruces, NM
30. Lansing, MI

 

It's kind of pathetic how easily you guys can be played.

Edited September 8, 2025 by Aristides