Is Democracy in Canada Dead?

I am Groot · July 3, 2025

On 7/2/2025 at 9:51 AM, Barquentine said:

If the Cons ever put up a viable alternative, they just might win. In January they'll have a chance to try again.

Poilievre got a higher percentage of the vote this year than Chretien, Harper or Trudeau ever managed.

If it weren't for Trump and Singh's identity politics party collapsing he'd have had a majority

20 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

But fact is, he did not.

Trudeau quit long before the election and the problem is. PP did not know it till Carney told him during the debate LOL

Carney said he would eliminate the carbon tax.

And then replace it with... a carbon tax. But don't worry! It will be on business and industry, and OF COURSE that won't be passed along to the consumer (nudge-nudge, wink-wink). So those cheques they used to get to make up for the tax will be a thing of the past. LOL. Big win!

Edited July 3, 2025 by I am Groot

Barquentine · July 3, 2025

17 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

You're just avoiding the topic entirely

Sorry. I thought the title of this "Is democracy in Canada dead' thread was " Is democracy in Canada dead?".

LinkSoul60 · July 3, 2025

11 hours ago, CdnFox said:

So the condensed version of your Reply is "I know he's right but gosh I just can't bring myself to admit it or even discuss it or address the points because then I would have to admit that I was wrong! I need a hug! "_

I brought up entirely valid points. Instead of being able to cope with him like an adult and talk about them or have a rational conversation you just had to have a little bit of a mini freak out and try and blow the whole thing off as my fault

Sorry kiddo. Everything I said was true whether you like it or not.

Cope with PP....? He's essentially irrelevant right now and soon to be history. Not much to cope with here....

LinkSoul60 · July 3, 2025

11 hours ago, CdnFox said:

So the condensed version of your Reply is "I know he's right but gosh I just can't bring myself to admit it or even discuss it or address the points because then I would have to admit that I was wrong! I need a hug! "_

I brought up entirely valid points. Instead of being able to cope with him like an adult and talk about them or have a rational conversation you just had to have a little bit of a mini freak out and try and blow the whole thing off as my fault

Sorry kiddo. Everything I said was true whether you like it or not.

Cope with PP....? He's essentially irrelevant right now and soon to be totally irrelevant. Not much to cope with.....

LinkSoul60 · July 3, 2025

1 hour ago, Legato said:

Oddfuscation abounds.

So does idiocy. I can understand why you're incapable of providing more than a partial sentence....

WestCanMan · July 3, 2025

17 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

And you're right, I can't acknowledge it...

👌

Accepting that you have a problem is the first step towards recovery.

ExFlyer · July 3, 2025

12 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

👌

Accepting that you have a problem is the first step towards recovery.

When will you accept??

Is the ten step thing not working for you?

Is the 5 step grief thing failing you too? LOL

WestCanMan · July 3, 2025

2 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Sorry. I thought the title of this "Is democracy in Canada dead' thread was " Is democracy in Canada dead?".

You're responding emotionally to the thread title, you're not putting any thought into the factual, rational arguments presented.

Why does our gov't use hundreds of millions of dollars for the MSM as a campaign promise before every election?

Why is our MSM allegiance with social media platforms that are cancelling free speech to block easily verifiable truths and promote disinformation on a regular basis? Any why are they saying the exact same things as those liars?

How can we have a democracy when the gov't controls the media, which uses fake polling data to fabricate key election narratives for them?

Edited July 3, 2025 by WestCanMan

Legato · July 3, 2025

1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said:

So does idiocy. I can understand why you're incapable of providing more than a partial sentence....

Go.

CdnFox · July 3, 2025

1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said:

So does idiocy. I can understand why you're incapable of providing more than a partial sentence....

LOL backed into a corner again and yet again all you can do is lash out like a 5 year old It's hilarious!

LinkSoul60 · July 3, 2025

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

LOL backed into a corner again and yet again all you can do is lash out like a 5 year old It's hilarious!

I'm backed into a corner by someone who is incapable of stringing any more than a sentence together.... not likely

Too bad neither you or her can answer what exactly the unfairness was that you mentioned.

CdnFox · July 3, 2025

40 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

I'm backed into a corner by someone who is incapable of stringing any more than a sentence together..

I'm not sure how you think that makes you look better but.....

It's your point is it's not very hard to corner you then point taken. Honestly if you were half as smart as you think you are you'd still be twice as smart as you actually are. Next time put some effort in and do better

WestCanMan · July 3, 2025

2 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

I'm backed into a corner by someone who is incapable of stringing any more than a sentence together.... not likely

Too bad neither you or her can answer what exactly the unfairness was that you mentioned.

You can't talk about facts, missing link. All you do is deny, slander, and insult.

You can't take the topic of media bribery head-on because it's absolutely ridiculous that the incumbent party can just bribe the MSM with half a billion dollars in taxpayer money in every campaigning season. Our media is as unbiased as Timmy's mom at his little league games. Our polling data comes from people who work for our bought-and-paid-for media.

That's why 3 years after $90k Duffygate the MSM is still talking about the next election as "a referendum on Duffygate", but only 8 months after the S900M WE scandal the election is about global warming.

Do you know how many 90k's it takes to make $900M?

90k 90k 90k 90k 90k 90k 90k 90k 90k 90k 90k 90k 90k 90k 90k 90k 90k 90k 90k 90k

That's how big of a scandal WE was in comparison to Duffygate. Literally 10,000x as much money.

Not only that, there was 5x as much money went to Trudeau's mom as there was in the whole Duffygate thing, and they were haggling over money that was paid back.

The CBC talked about 1 of those scandals for 3 years, and ignore the larger one after only a few months.

WestCanMan · July 3, 2025

If the CBC was talking about the Duffygate after 3 years, then to keep things in perspective, they should still be talking about the WE scandal 30,000 years from the date it happened. So basically during the during the 32,015 federal election.

Edited July 3, 2025 by WestCanMan

CdnFox · July 3, 2025

6 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

If the CBC was talking about the Duffygate after 3 years, then to keep things in perspective, they should still be talking about the WE scandal 30,000 years from the date it happened. So basically during the during the 32,015 federal election.

Ahhh yes, Duffygate.

That scandal where the conservatives got caught forcing someone to give back taxpayers their money because they felt that it had been taken unfairly.

We need a hell of a lot more scandals like that

WestCanMan · July 3, 2025

5 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Ahhh yes, Duffygate.

That scandal where the conservatives got caught forcing someone to give back taxpayers their money because they felt that it had been taken unfairly.

We need a hell of a lot more scandals like that

Honestly, the WE scandal was astronomical by comparison:

10,000x as much money
WE paid 5x as much money as the Duffygate sum directly to his mom in fees and expenses
the Trudeau gov't was soliciting WE to do events and paying them for it
the WE charity was making Hitler Youth style propaganda for Trudeau

It's insane what WE was doing for Trudeau, and how much money he just randomly gifted him. It's the epitome of cronyism and disgusting propaganda.

Can you imagine the hue and cry if Trump gifted some dudes $900M for something like that, and they were making videos of Trump like that?

What in the narcissistic ninth hell even is that shit? That's the hubris, arrogance, narcissism, pedophilia motherload ffs. Psych teachers can show their students that, along with a stern warning to "abandon fiduciary duties/patient privacy laws and put this creeper into a chokehold until the cops arrive".

Legato · July 4, 2025

4 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

I'm backed into a corner by someone who is incapable of stringing any more than a sentence together.... not likely

Too bad neither you or her can answer what exactly the unfairness was that you mentioned.

So you think you are entitled to more words? Your Niffler would be happy.

Come back when you have something worth a proper response.

LinkSoul60 · July 4, 2025

2 hours ago, Legato said:

So you think you are entitled to more words? Your Niffler would be happy.

Come back when you have something worth a proper response.

My point was.... you implied it was unfair and I asked how so. Gather it's the same conspiracy....

CdnFox · July 4, 2025

Just now, LinkSoul60 said:

My point was.... you implied it was unfair and I asked how so. Gather it's the same conspiracy....

And your point was a dishonest when that's already been answered, and he's mocking you as a result.

Seriously, what kind of losers have you been hanging out with that you think that this level of debate that you're showing is somehow anything more than juvenile?

LinkSoul60 · July 4, 2025

4 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

You can't take the topic of media bribery head-on because it's absolutely ridiculous that the incumbent party can just bribe the MSM with half a billion dollars in taxpayer money in every campaigning season. Our media is as unbiased as Timmy's mom at his little league games. Our polling data comes from people who work for our bought-and-paid-for media.

wow.... hopefully you didn't hurt yourself. Bribing... you mean funding right.

LinkSoul60 · July 4, 2025

8 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

And your point was a dishonest when that's already been answered, and he's mocking you as a result.

Seriously, what kind of losers have you been hanging out with that you think that this level of debate that you're showing is somehow anything more than juvenile?

Obfuscation abounds is an answer?

This level of debate.... 😂 are you talking about the stolen election or ??

CdnFox · July 4, 2025

1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Obfuscation abounds is an answer?

Look who's playing stupid. OH! You're not playing..... sorry about that

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This level of debate.... 😂 are you talking about the stolen election or ??

Only your side has used the term "stolen election"

And yes, i realize you wouldn't recognize actual debate if you saw it, which says a lot about you.

So i have to ask, was "dumb and angry" the look you were going for? Asking for a friend.

Legato · July 4, 2025

7 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Obfuscation abounds is an answer?

This level of debate.... 😂 are you talking about the stolen election or ??

Obfuscation? Who said that?

LinkSoul60 · July 4, 2025

7 hours ago, CdnFox said:

So i have to ask, was "dumb and angry" the look you were going for? Asking for a friend

Yes, dumb and angry describes most of your comments very well. You have no friends.

1 hour ago, Legato said:

Obfuscation? Who said that?

you....

BTDT · July 4, 2025

On 7/1/2025 at 1:36 PM, WestCanMan said:

We actually DON'T have a democracy in Canada.

The fact that you brought up the CBC proves that.

Back in April I was at a farewell luncheon for my supervisor. Half way though it, his replacement walked in and happened to sit across from me. Somehow we got onto travelling to the US (he was taking a cruise with his family from the US) and how he was worried that the US Border Officials would confiscate his mobile phone.

I just had to roll my eyes and told him, "stop watching CBC". Sure, they might have confiscated one mobile phone from a questionable person and we all know that main stream media loves to sensationalize everything.

In March and April of this year, I crossed over at least three times into the US to buy US made products and I didn't even get tariffed on any of them. In fact I did not even get charged HST. You want an ulcer, watch main stream media news aka BS news.

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