Saint Elon

[WestCanMan]

Has he done enough?

What human has done more than Elon in the last 1,000 years?

If you value freedom of speech, medical advancements, and the flow of information against the tide of book-burning, and you take into consideration the sheer magnitude of his accomplishments, Elon Musk IS a Saint:

1. his companies singlehandedly advanced vehicle manufacturing
2. his companies singlehandedly advanced space exploration
3. his microchips are curing human suffering that was previously crippling and incurable
4. his information systems are allowing information to flow freely into areas that were previously controlled by authoritarian regimes and disinformation cartels, even in Europe and the Americas

 

1. Musk turned Tesla into a thriving mega-corporation, which ended 100 years of internal combustion domination of the road ways. 

2. His SpaceX has advanced space exploration remarkably, making StarLink an affordable possibility, among other things

3. His Neuralink microchips are helping crippled people become interactive in society in new ways, they might even help people walk again. 

4. He did more for free speech and mass communication by buying Twitter (thereby breaking TNI's stranglehold on information and disrupting their disinformation superhighway) and then creating the StarLink Network, than anyone since Johannes Gutenberg.

 

As far as religion is concerned, Musk identifies as a "cultural Christian", he believes in the morality and values but not the divinity aspect of it. I personally identify as an Atheist myself, and I use a capital A for that because every other group on earth seems to get a capital letter so F you all, but I like the term "cultural Christian", I think I will use it myself from now on. 

I don't know if the church can get away with categorizing Neuralink's achievements or the help that his StarLink has given to people in crisis zones as 'miraculous', but Mother Teresa didn't perform miracles either and it's also hard to argue that he did less than she did for humanity, even if he didn't get his hands dirty in a leper colony.

IMO we are living in the time of St Elon. We need to give credit where credit's due.

Thoughts?

[gatomontes99]

He's just a dude doing pretty cool shìt. I would argue Michael Jordan was more of a miracle worker than Musk. But I lived through the era of MJ when everyone was a Bulls fan. 

 

[Chrissy1979]

He also made sure the world knows Trump is in the Epstein files.

[herbie]

Well someone sure pointed out they got their definition of Sainthood from the Ferengi Rules of Acquisition rather than the Bible.

[robosmith]

Muskrat has killed more people in Africa by strangling the USAID programs than Mother Teresa ever saved.

Like Bill Gates said. "the world's richest man killing the world's poorest children, is not a pretty picture." 

[herbie]

Say what you will about Bill Gates but he passes an awful lot of his money to many just causes.

Praising Nazis not one of them.

[gatomontes99]

25 minutes ago, herbie said:

Say what you will about Bill Gates but he passes an awful lot of his money to many just causes.

Praising Nazis not one of them.

Gawd, you guys are tiringly stewpid. 

 

 

[robosmith]

21 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Gawd, you guys are tiringly stewpid. 

The lDIOT ^here is the one who has ONLY ^this to post.

No one cares what you believe is "tiringly stewpid."

[gatomontes99]

1 minute ago, robosmith said:

The lDIOT ^here is the one who has ONLY ^this to post.

**ahem**

1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said:

He's just a dude doing pretty cool shìt. I would argue Michael Jordan was more of a miracle worker than Musk. But I lived through the era of MJ when everyone was a Bulls fan. 

 

 

2 minutes ago, robosmith said:

No one cares what you believe is "tiringly stewpid."

Except you. Because you were upset enough by it to reply. 

Do you realize how many times you have told people you don't care what their opinions are? You basically said all Canadian opinions are worthless, I can't count how many times your told me, User, Legato and others you don't care about their opinion. Do you think that maybe, just maybe, that you are so closed minded that you aren't willing to accept any information that transcends your preconceived notions? 

[LinkSoul60]

Ask a TSLA shareholder how impressed they are with St Leon this year....

[CdnFox]

On 6/25/2025 at 1:57 PM, herbie said:

Well someone sure pointed out they got their definition of Sainthood from the Ferengi Rules of Acquisition rather than the Bible.

Okay, I'll admit that was funny

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Ask a TSLA shareholder how impressed they are with St Leon this year....

Probably less than they were a year ago, but if they were original shoulder holders they'll still be pretty damn happy with him

He's done a lot and he has contributed to the world knowledge. I don't think anything he's done is particularly miraculous but he has achieved quite a bit and the sheer volume of it is impressive you may not be a Schrodinger or a heisenberg or a einstein but his contributions have been significant and many.

I don't know if he's ready for saint hood but he probably deserves a statue or two somewhere

[WestCanMan]

On 6/25/2025 at 1:16 PM, gatomontes99 said:

He's just a dude doing pretty cool shìt. I would argue Michael Jordan was more of a miracle worker than Musk. But I lived through the era of MJ when everyone was a Bulls fan. 

If you look at the other people who made the grade, their contributions were far less dramatic and only on a minute scale by comparison, and let's not pretend that any of them actually did anything miraculous. "Jenny and Johnny saw it" doesn't mean sh1t as far as I'm concerned.  

I don't expect the Catholic Church to do anything like this though, now or in the near future (after Elon's passing, of course). At the rate they've been going lately they're more likely to canonize the ayatollah than anyone who would be considered saintly by western standards. 

On 6/25/2025 at 1:57 PM, herbie said:

Well someone sure pointed out they got their definition of Sainthood from the Ferengi Rules of Acquisition rather than the Bible.

WTF would a demmie/LPOC cultist know about religion? 

[LinkSoul60]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Probably less than they were a year ago, but if they were original shoulder holders they'll still be pretty damn happy with him

He's done a lot and he has contributed to the world knowledge. I don't think anything he's done is particularly miraculous but he has achieved quite a bit and the sheer volume of it is impressive you may not be a Schrodinger or a heisenberg or a einstein but his contributions have been significant and many.

I don't know if he's ready for saint hood but he probably deserves a statue or two somewhere

Up for 1 year, down YTD after hanging out with Trump. Not a good business move for Leon...

Never thought I would, but agree with you. Leon's created and/or funded some revolutionary things but so have a lot of others. He gets the press but that's what he does. 

[CdnFox]

49 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Up for 1 year, down YTD after hanging out with Trump. Not a good business move for Leon...

Never thought I would, but agree with you. Leon's created and/or funded some revolutionary things but so have a lot of others. He gets the press but that's what he does. 

In fairness those who were original tesla stockholders, or even those who bought since about 2020 have tripled or quadrupled their stock value even at today's rate, and it's heading up currently. bIt's still higher right now than most of 2023 for example.   I'm sure there's some who are mad about his little unfortunate "foray" into politics but i doubt they're overly upset. 

And yes,  we're on the same page with regards to the rest.  Done many amazing things, more than most perhaps, nothing that is miraculous or unprecedented.  Many would argue edison did as much, certainly Galileo probably lapped him (tho we'll see, musk is still going), etc. 

Absolutely amazing accomplishments, probably the best in his time, but still within the boundaries of history 

[LinkSoul60]

8 hours ago, CdnFox said:

In fairness those who were original tesla stockholders, or even those who bought since about 2020 have tripled or quadrupled their stock value even at today's rate, and it's heading up currently. bIt's still higher right now than most of 2023 for example.   I'm sure there's some who are mad about his little unfortunate "foray" into politics but i doubt they're overly upset. 

And yes,  we're on the same page with regards to the rest.  Done many amazing things, more than most perhaps, nothing that is miraculous or unprecedented.  Many would argue edison did as much, certainly Galileo probably lapped him (tho we'll see, musk is still going), etc. 

Absolutely amazing accomplishments, probably the best in his time, but still within the boundaries of history 

lol... only the ones of the Tesla board threatening vote to replace Musk when he was getting stupid with Trump. 

Not the way to look at....  Up +65% for 1 year but down -20% YTD.  If you've been in for a year 20% of your capital gain is gone.  If you got in Jan 1 you're down 20% (while the nasdaq is +4%).

Trump's cancer so Leon distancing himself from is a good thing, but still going to bite him for a long time.  

[Nationalist]

I get such a kick outta Libbies poo pooing on Musk. It exemplifies the raw hypocrisy of them.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

lol... only the ones of the Tesla board threatening vote to replace Musk when he was getting stupid with Trump. 

But didn't    Mad, but not TOO mad   Thanks for pointing it out LOL

2 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Not the way to look at....  Up +65% for 1 year but down -20% YTD.  If you've been in for a year 20% of your capital gain is gone.  If you got in Jan 1 you're down 20% (while the nasdaq is +4%).

I'm sorry the facts don't support your position unless you deliberately rearrange them in a precise fashion like that    Stocks are up and down all the time, nobody in their right mind gets mad if it goes up and down over a month. The test of a stock is how it does over time. Over time musk has radically improved this doc including right now. And it's on an upward trend at the moment if we're going to pick super short timelines.

Anybody who invested in Tesla is doing well. Well they might be angry that he caused a minor disturbance for a short. Of time the fact is the stock is doing great at a. Of time when many stocks aren't doing well at all.

Obviously you're not much of an investor, but aside from day traders who tend to lose all their money pretty quick stockholders would look at the performance and say it's been extremely strong.

Sorry if that doesn't match up with your echo chamber but it is the facts. I suspect they would have done better if it hadn't been for musk's silliness but it's still doing exceptionally well

[LinkSoul60]

20 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

But didn't    Mad, but not TOO mad   Thanks for pointing it out LOL

I'm sorry the facts don't support your position unless you deliberately rearrange them in a precise fashion like that    Stocks are up and down all the time, nobody in their right mind gets mad if it goes up and down over a month. The test of a stock is how it does over time. Over time musk has radically improved this doc including right now. And it's on an upward trend at the moment if we're going to pick super short timelines.

Anybody who invested in Tesla is doing well. Well they might be angry that he caused a minor disturbance for a short. Of time the fact is the stock is doing great at a. Of time when many stocks aren't doing well at all.

Obviously you're not much of an investor, but aside from day traders who tend to lose all their money pretty quick stockholders would look at the performance and say it's been extremely strong.

Sorry if that doesn't match up with your echo chamber but it is the facts. I suspect they would have done better if it hadn't been for musk's silliness but it's still doing exceptionally well

What don't you understand about an equity being down 20% YTD?  What don't you understand about an equity losing 20% on the investment if you're long?  If you want to think everyone is long and there is no short term, swing or day trading....think again. 

lol....  My investments have done just fine, and actually much better than fine this week in particular.  Ask your folks for more allowance money so you can get into the markets.  

[CdnFox]

11 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

What don't you understand about an equity being down 20% YTD?  

The part where anyone would care. Stocks are up and down constantly and they were at a very high point going into this year. They are up considerably year over year, and every year they read good returns. They'll go up again before the end of this year

I take it you've never owned stocks.   The way you're looking at it is extremely uneducated as far as finance goes. Almost every stock does this and a hell of a lot of stocks are down right now year to date. If that was a reason to be upset and fire people then virtually almost all of corporate America would be looking for jobs.

And did you notice how the board of directors has not called for must to step down  

I doubt they're happy about his little political stint but honestly the stock is still doing great and will probably continue to do great throughout the year. It's actually more resilient than a lot of stocks out there

 

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What don't you understand about an equity losing 20% on the investment if you're long?  If you want to think everyone is long and there is no short term, swing or day trading....think again. 

Like I said, people that are trying to make a quick buck and do day trading always lose. Kind of thing to do with Tesla. People buy the stock is an investment in the investors are going to be happy.

I realize you may not be a financial expert but even you must realize that the vast majority of people understand that stocks go up and down    The hope is that in the long run they'll go up and or pay dividends but nobody ever bought stocks thinking they would never have ups and downs unless they were complete and utter twats

 

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lol....  My investments have done just fine, and actually much better than fine this week in particular.  Ask your folks for more allowance money so you can get into the markets.  

Kid it is painfully obvious you don't have investments and know nothing about it    The closest you come is the comic books you horded in your closet hoping it one day they'll be worth cash   

Don't worry, we'll explain to you how money works and maybe by the time you're ready to actually invest some of that paper route money you'll have a handle on the basics. Be sure to pay attention   

 

[LinkSoul60]

4 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

The part where anyone would care. Stocks are up and down constantly and they were at a very high point going into this year. They are up considerably year over year, and every year they read good returns. They'll go up again before the end of this year

I take it you've never owned stocks.   The way you're looking at it is extremely uneducated as far as finance goes. Almost every stock does this and a hell of a lot of stocks are down right now year to date. If that was a reason to be upset and fire people then virtually almost all of corporate America would be looking for jobs.

And did you notice how the board of directors has not called for must to step down  

I doubt they're happy about his little political stint but honestly the stock is still doing great and will probably continue to do great throughout the year. It's actually more resilient than a lot of stocks out there

 

Like I said, people that are trying to make a quick buck and do day trading always lose. Kind of thing to do with Tesla. People buy the stock is an investment in the investors are going to be happy.

I realize you may not be a financial expert but even you must realize that the vast majority of people understand that stocks go up and down    The hope is that in the long run they'll go up and or pay dividends but nobody ever bought stocks thinking they would never have ups and downs unless they were complete and utter twats

 

Kid it is painfully obvious you don't have investments and know nothing about it    The closest you come is the comic books you horded in your closet hoping it one day they'll be worth cash   

Don't worry, we'll explain to you how money works and maybe by the time you're ready to actually invest some of that paper route money you'll have a handle on the basics. Be sure to pay attention   

 

lol... sure, lets go with all that then.  

You clearly don't follow this equity or the market.  The company is -20% YTD because of his political game and you think that's great and will "probably" continue to do great....  Zero financial aptitude so maybe use your allowance money to save for a new bike or something....

[CdnFox]

5 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

lol... sure, lets go with all that then.  

 

You mean the truth? I realize why you as a left-wing person would think of that as a concession  

Kid you are embarrassing yourself at this point.

And even others are beginning to note that you've got this little weird habit of where you start talking about something, it becomes very obvious that you do not understand the subject, and then you pretend to be an expert and can't explain yourself but rather just attack other people saying they don't understand.

Which is the kind of behavior we expect in teenagers. 

The very arguments you have already made demonstrate you have absolutely no clue about equity investment.

Feel free to continue embarrassing yourself if you like, it's kind of funny! But I think it's safe to say that we've all got a pretty good sense of here investment knowledge at this point and nobody's going to be taking you seriously.  

[LinkSoul60]

14 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You mean the truth? I realize why you as a left-wing person would think of that as a concession  

Kid you are embarrassing yourself at this point.

And even others are beginning to note that you've got this little weird habit of where you start talking about something, it becomes very obvious that you do not understand the subject, and then you pretend to be an expert and can't explain yourself but rather just attack other people saying they don't understand.

Which is the kind of behavior we expect in teenagers. 

The very arguments you have already made demonstrate you have absolutely no clue about equity investment.

Feel free to continue embarrassing yourself if you like, it's kind of funny! But I think it's safe to say that we've all got a pretty good sense of here investment knowledge at this point and nobody's going to be taking you seriously.  

Like I said.... go with that then.  My financial being should be of no interest to you, as yours is of no interest to me.  Just don't be stupid and say -20% YTD is great, and for the reason why it's tanked.

And out of curiosity.... do you ever shut the f*ck up?

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Like I said.... go with that then.  My financial being should be of no interest to you, as yours is of no interest to me.  Just don't be stupid and say -20% YTD is great, and for the reason why it's tanked.

 

And yet you brought it up.  And now that you've been exposed to being completely full of shit with regards to it I can understand why you'd want to stop talking about it

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 Just don't be stupid and say -20% YTD is great, and for the reason why it's tanked.

I never have. And it's become typical of you that you have to lie to try and make your point.

However what I did say is that the stock is doing great overall and over time. Anybody who's invested in it should be fairly happy with their returns. Which is why the board never asked for elon to step down. Obviously they agree with me more than you   

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And out of curiosity.... do you ever shut the f*ck up?

Awww....  I'm sure it must be very frustrating to have your obvious faults and dishonesty and lack of reason or facts pointed out to you on a regular basis. Perhaps you're used to posting somewhere that this kind of nonsense doesn't get challenged. Unfortunately for you if it wasn't me it would be one of the others here pointing out how ridiculous your comments are.

Sorry it's so frustrating for you, but if you want you could always try being honest and reasonable, then you wouldn't have that problem.

[LinkSoul60]

4 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

And yet you brought it up.  And now that you've been exposed to being completely full of shit with regards to it I can understand why you'd want to stop talking about it

I never have. And it's become typical of you that you have to lie to try and make your point.

However what I did say is that the stock is doing great overall and over time. Anybody who's invested in it should be fairly happy with their returns. Which is why the board never asked for elon to step down. Obviously they agree with me more than you   

Awww....  I'm sure it must be very frustrating to have your obvious faults and dishonesty and lack of reason or facts pointed out to you on a regular basis. Perhaps you're used to posting somewhere that this kind of nonsense doesn't get challenged. Unfortunately for you if it wasn't me it would be one of the others here pointing out how ridiculous your comments are.

Sorry it's so frustrating for you, but if you want you could always try being honest and reasonable, then you wouldn't have that problem.

So.... you have no idea and you never shut the f*ck up.  I figured that out a while ago....  

You'd be happy with buying at first of the year and being down 20% (if you continued to hold)....lol.  How's your equities doing today big shooter?  Indices pulling back a bit right now don't you think....