After they get your guns, they take your words

[gatomontes99]

Like I said before, yall are fùcked.

 

[eyeball]

No, according to your source it's actually the Commons Ethics Committee report that is proposing this. This committee also includes the input of a bunch of Conservatives as well.

Here's what your source actually says.

Canada should adopt a code of practice on media disinformation, says a Commons ethics committee report. Liberal MP Iqra Khalid (Mississauga-Erin Mills, Ont.), a committee member, called it among “the biggest issues of our time.”

https://www.blacklocks.ca/report-urges-code-on-truth/

 

Have you got any quotes from Conservative members also saying we're all fùcked?

[DUI_Offender]

3 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Like I said before, yall are fùcked.

 

She is 100% correct. Disinformation has been the greatest threat to democracy in the past decade. We really need to pass laws and regulations, that punish the people that spread blatant disinformation. We have seen first hand at what damage it has done, especially during the COVID pandemic.

Canada Proud is a perfect example of a "media" entity that has ties to Russia, and it's misinformation campaign.

Edited December 10, 2024 by DUI_Offender

[gatomontes99]

52 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No, according to your source it's actually the Commons Ethics Committee report that is proposing this. This committee also includes the input of a bunch of Conservatives as well.

Here's what your source actually says.

Canada should adopt a code of practice on media disinformation, says a Commons ethics committee report. Liberal MP Iqra Khalid (Mississauga-Erin Mills, Ont.), a committee member, called it among “the biggest issues of our time.”

https://www.blacklocks.ca/report-urges-code-on-truth/

 

Have you got any quotes from Conservative members also saying we're all fùcked?

You need to learn from us. When the liberals start making excuses for taking away your rights, they intend to take away your rights. And they will do whatever it takes. If they find a way to suppress your speech, they can then make up anything they want and you can't say anything to stop them.

We got lucky and a billionair bailed us out. What billionair will bail you out?

 

14 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

She is 100% correct. Disinformation has been the greatest threat to democracy in the past decade. We really need to pass laws and regulations, that punish the people that spread blatant disinformation. We have seen first hand at what damage it has done, especially during the COVID pandemic.

Canada Proud is a perfect example of a "media" entity that has ties to Russia, and it's misinformation campaign.

It's not disinformation. It's information you don't like.

[herbie]

The disinformers disagree 100%. It violates their freedumb of speech.

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

When the liberals start making excuses for taking away your rights they intend to take away your rights

And what do you conservatives intend?

BTW why do you keep missing the fact the Canadian Conservative Party also had a hand in writing the report calling for a code of practices to help prevent media disinformation?

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

She is 100% correct. Disinformation has been the greatest threat to democracy in the past decade. We really need to pass laws and regulations, that punish the people that spread blatant disinformation.

You and every liberal would be in jail

14 minutes ago, eyeball said:

And what do you conservatives intend?

BTW why do you keep missing the fact the Canadian Conservative Party also had a hand in writing the report calling for a code of practices to help prevent media disinformation?

Not much of a hand. I understand they were shouted down by the NDP and liberals on the committee.

Nice try though

[August1991]

5 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

You need to learn from us. When the liberals start making excuses for taking away your rights, they intend to take away your rights.

===

Huh?

Second Amendment: "I have the right to be the first kid to be the last kid on my street."

BTW, your amendment specifically refers to a "well-ordered militia".

Edited December 10, 2024 by August1991

[August1991]

Men in Damascus have AKs and are shooting them in the air.

Is this a symbol of freedom?

[August1991]

At the ground, every bullet falls at the same speed -wherever it hits.

Note: No women are shooting AK-47s.

 

[gatomontes99]

8 hours ago, eyeball said:

And what do you conservatives intend?

BTW why do you keep missing the fact the Canadian Conservative Party also had a hand in writing the report calling for a code of practices to help prevent media disinformation?

And? That should make this more concerning to you, not less.

4 hours ago, August1991 said:

Huh?

Second Amendment: "I have the right to be the first kid to be the last kid on my street."

BTW, your amendment specifically refers to a "well-ordered militia".

It says well-regulated. That means properly functioning.

[BeaverFever]

14 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Like I said before, yall are fùcked.

 

Well, at least you admit “your words” are disinformation. Admitting you have a problem is always the first step. 

[gatomontes99]

2 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Well, at least you admit “your words” are disinformation. Admitting you have a problem is always the first step. 

Even for a shìt posting, that's pathetic.

 

[Michael Hardner]

13 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

She is 100% correct. Disinformation has been the greatest threat to democracy in the past decade. We really need to pass laws and regulations, that punish the people that spread blatant disinformation. We have seen first hand at what damage it has done, especially during the COVID pandemic.

Canada Proud is a perfect example of a "media" entity that has ties to Russia, and it's misinformation campaign.

But the disinfo problem goes hand in hand with the poor ecology of the public in shooting down ridiculous claims.  It should be a common habit for people to shoot down extremists from their own side of the fence, IMO.  Liberals shoot down radical claims by leftists, Red Torys shoot down alt-right weirdos.

Clean up the mess and disinfo will stand out like a piece of sh!t on the floor of a pastry shop.

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Forums like this represent a potential space for true discussion, but for the people who treat discussion like it's an all-or-nothing bloodsport, and who think their enemies are subhumans whose ideas need to be eliminated.

7 hours ago, August1991 said:

 

BTW, your amendment specifically refers to a "well-ordered militia".

So let's legalize militias and ban individuals from owning firearms less than 250 years old ?  Maybe you have a germ of an idea, Auguste.  

I appreciate your posts.

[Dougie93]

35 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

  Liberals shoot down radical claims by leftists, Red Torys shoot down alt-right weirdos.

Liberals & Red Tories have sowed the wind, now they are reaping the whirlwind

all the King's horses and all the King's men

cannot put the White Supremacist Settler Colonial Post National State back together again

 

[Zeitgeist]

The irony of this radical left takeover of Canada’s government and institutions is that Canada did not allow slavery or have bounty hunting of Indigenous or massacres of any groups.  The US did (Price per head, Wounded Knee, etc).  In fact it was progressive Canada that set up free public education and accommodation for Indigenous children and there isn’t a single piece of evidence for the intentional killing of an Indigenous person.  Nevertheless, the Canadian government says that Canada committed cultural genocide and Canada appears on the world stage as a colonial genocidal state. Why is that?

It has everything to do with a government and institutions dominated by people who don’t know what real hardship and loss of freedom means.  They think that looking at someone the wrong way or saying something mildly offensive is triggering and an act of violence.  they don’t understand the value of free speech. These people complete with each other before media to prove how woke and progressive they are.  Everyone knows it’s fake and most people don’t even agree with the sanctimonious platitudes.  The bottom line is that Canada, its culture, and its citizens have been thrown under the bus to score political points with the UN and other unaccountable bodies.  That’s one of the reasons Trump has had such appeal south of the border.  He doesn’t kowtow to foreign entities or pretend to be something he isn’t for the cameras.  I’d rather have a real person as a leader who says what he really thinks than a big phoney.

Edited December 10, 2024 by Zeitgeist

[Dougie93]

21 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

The irony of this radical left takeover of Canada’s government and institutions is that Canada did not allow slavery or have bounty hunting of Indigenous or massacres of any groups.  The US did (Price per head, Wounded Knee, etc).  In fact it was progressive Canada that set up free public education and accommodation for Indigenous children and there isn’t a single piece of evidence for the intentional killing of an Indigenous person.  Nevertheless, the Canadian government says that Canada committed cultural genocide and Canada appears on the world stage as a colonial genocidal state. Why is that?

It has everything to do with a government and institutions dominated by people who don’t know what real hardship and loss of freedom means.  They think that looking at someone the wrong way or saying something mildly offensive is triggering and an act of violence.  they don’t understand the value of free speech. These people complete with each other before media to prove how woke and progressive they are.  Everyone knows it’s fake and most people don’t even agree with the sanctimonious platitudes.  The bottom line is that Canada, its culture, and its citizens have been thrown under the bus to score political points with the UN and other unaccountable bodies.  That’s one of the reasons Trump has had such appeal south of the border.  He doesn’t kowtow to foreign entities or pretend to be something he isn’t for the cameras.  I’d rather have a real person as a leader who says what he really thinks than a big phoney.

the general population is yet still naive as to the irreversible cascading nature of this civilizational collapse

the masses still pinning their hopes on voting as a remedy

the next shoe to drop

will be when voting the Trudeau Liberals out of office has no discernible effect

all the intuitions have been completely hollowed out

the very infrastructure of the state itself has already collapsed

once the Bastille has already been stormed, there's no going back

[Michael Hardner]

49 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Liberals & Red Tories have sowed the wind, now they are reaping the whirlwind

all the King's horses and all the King's men

cannot put the White Supremacist Settler Colonial Post National State back together again

 

You want scorched earth, though.

You think the system is beyond corrupt.  So you use a "discussion" board to post dire warnings as in "The End is Near".

It's puzzling.

[Legato]

Whenever you see the word misinformation, it usually means missinginformation. Then, one always ends up with disinformation. The way of the click hungry media.

[Dougie93]

5 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

You want scorched earth, though.

You think the system is beyond corrupt.  So you use a "discussion" board to post dire warnings as in "The End is Near".

It's puzzling.

I am not the one whom scorched HM Confederation

I saw it coming from some ways off perhaps

but I quickly realized that this was an epoch which I could do nothing to stop

I am not warning that the end is near

I am simply observing that the collapse has already happened

as the Liberals & Red Tories are calling for the guillotines to be brought in the apple carts

the rise of a Committee for Public Safety in so called "Canada"

is already the Brave New World ascended

[eyeball]

4 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

And? That should make this more concerning to you, not less.

I'm not concerned. It should make it less concerning for you.

Unless you believe our Conservatives are more like your Democrats in which case you'll likely never be happy about anything our government does.

[Dougie93]

13 minutes ago, Legato said:

Whenever you see the word misinformation . . .

the desperate gasping panic of the Liberal & Red Tory Laurentian Elite

as they resort to Red Scare McCarthyism

any who dissent from the corruption and incompetence of the ruling class

is now a "Russian Agent" whom is spreading "Misinformation" and so must be punished for their "treason"

we have come to the death throes therein

so much for Canada's "Civil Society"

[Dougie93]

1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said:

 That’s one of the reasons Trump has had such appeal south of the border. 

the latest polling shows President Trump at 33% approval in Canada

while Justin Trudeau is at 31%

yeehaw

[Michael Hardner]

25 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

 

1. I am not warning that the end is near... I am simply observing that the collapse has already happened

2. ...as the Liberals & Red Tories are calling for the guillotines to be brought in the apple carts

3. the rise of a Committee for Public Safety in so called "Canada"... is already the Brave New World ascended...

1. "I am not saying POTATO ... I am simply saying POTAHTO"
2. Huh ?
3. Huh ?

Yeah... whatever you are saying here, it's dire.  Whether the sky is falling, or it fell, it's dire.

[User]

The problem with the authoritarian crowd that wants to control and silence disinformation is and has always been, who gets to decide what is disinformation?

Because during COVID we were outright lied to by the WHO and governments about masks. We were fed major lies on both sides of the mask issue. First, they lied to us and told us not to wear them, then they lied to us and told us we had to wear them to stop the spread and that next to worthless cloth over your face would help or that surgical masks were effective... all lies. 

You know who was silenced by YouTube and others because of government pressure? Those telling the truth. 

People like @herbie push the pandemic as reason why we should silence people... when it was the very people in power who were wrong. 

The best way to deal with disinformation is to counter it with truth, not to silence it through authoritarian government controls. 

Those in power will abuse their power. 

Freedom is scary, deal with it.