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This "Republican" Senator has suddenly become steadfastly against Pete Hegseth. Hegseth has famously said that he will make the military better for those that serve. But that means fewer wars. Fewer wars is not good for the defense industry. Guess who supports Joni Ernst?

NorPAC
Apollo Global Management
Blackstone Group
RTX Corp
Capital Group

Do any of these companies have military contracts? Well, call me Ethel and feed me porridge, they do!

NorPAC

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WHAT IS NORPAC?

What is NORPAC? Founded in 1994, NORPAC specializes in one thing: Hosting fundraising events for pro-Israel Congressmen and Senators in our supporters’ homes, offices, and even on Zoom, and rallying our communities to financially support them. Since our founding we have hosted thousands of events for pro-Israel members of Congress.

https://norpac.net/about

Apollo Global Management:

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Contract losses sink Apollo’s defence bet
Competitive setbacks and reduced diplomatic security spending push Constellis to brink of bankruptcy

https://www.penews.com/articles/contract-losses-sink-apollos-defence-bet-20200120

Blackstone Group:

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Blackstone Defense Services has a variety of experienced professionals at your service. We provide timely, accurate and relevant professional intelligence analytic products and deliver outstanding support to counterintelligence operations and investigations, technical services, training programs and special projects, whatever your needs are and wherever they may occur throughout the world.

https://blackstonedefense.com/

RTX Group:

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UCSON, Ariz., Oct. 23, 2024 /PRNewswire/ -- Raytheon, an RTX (NYSE: RTX) business, was awarded $676 million to continue manufacturing the tube-launched, optically-tracked, wireless-guided TOW® weapon system for the U.S. Army. The two separate awards comprise an annual production contract for $430 million in fiscal year 2023 and an additional $246 million award in 2024.

https://www.rtx.com/news/news-center/2024/10/23/u-s-army-awards-rtxs-raytheon-tow-contracts-for-676-million

Capital Group:

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Consumer Capital Group Corp.,* Chicago, Illinois, is being awarded $9,340,000 for a firm-fixed-price contract to provide medical third-party administration support services in support of Naval Education Training Security Assistance Field Activity.

https://www.defense.gov/News/Contracts/Contract/Article/3986721//

 

Her top 5 donors all have a vested interest in continuous wars. Say that again. HER TOP 5 DONORS ALL HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN CONTINUOUS WARS. Is there any wonder why she doesn't support the guy that wants to get us out of unnecessary wars?

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13 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

he will make the military better for those that serve. But that means fewer wars.

That's not how he wants to change the military.

13 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

the guy that wants to get us out of unnecessary wars?

Nothing I have read about Hegseth supports this. How did you arrive at this conclusion?

Everything I have read about him points to the fact that he is a militant Christian extremist.

He literally wrote a book called “American Crusade” – which calls for the pushback of Muslims in Europe and the US.

Hegseth has spoken about:

 

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… the possibility of reconstructing the so-called "Third Temple" in Jerusalem, a project that would require the destruction of Islam's third-holiest site. Such an effort would almost certainly trigger a major international war…

"Many far-right Christians have adopted the Crusades as a model, as a template for how they want to remake society for their own kind of militant expressions of Christianity," he said. "And Hegseth seems very much to be in that current."

 

https://www.npr.org/2024/11/14/nx-s1-5191941/pete-hegseth-defense-department-dei

Maybe Hegseth is just too extreme for second-in-command of the US military

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19 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

That's not how he wants to change the military.

Nothing I have read about Hegseth supports this. How did you arrive at this conclusion?

Everything I have read about him points to the fact that he is a militant Christian extremist.

He literally wrote a book called “American Crusade” – which calls for the pushback of Muslims in Europe and the US.

Hegseth has spoken about:

 

https://www.npr.org/2024/11/14/nx-s1-5191941/pete-hegseth-defense-department-dei

Maybe Hegseth is just too extreme for second-in-command of the US military

Or...maybe Pete's ideas appeal to the majority...of which you are not.

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Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

Posted (edited)
33 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

That's not how he wants to change the military.

Well, he wrote a book titled War on Warriors. And he said:

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 “There’s a reason people don’t want to serve. They don’t trust that their senior leaders are going to have their best interest in mind in combat.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/13/pete-hegseth-trump-defense-secretary-agenda-policies-00189437

It's his mission to ensure that the top brass have the best interests of everyone in mind. That includes not fighting wars just because.

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"I don't want American intervention driving deep into Europe and making him feel like he's so much on his heels that he does have to — because early on, he was talking about nukes," he said.

Hegseth added that the US had "burned two decades of money" in Afghanistan and Iraq, and that it was "tempted to do it again" in Ukraine.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-pentagon-pick-pete-hegseth-criticized-us-involvement-ukraine-aid-2024-11?op=1

 

33 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

Hegseth has spoken about:

 

https://www.npr.org/2024/11/14/nx-s1-5191941/pete-hegseth-defense-department-dei

Maybe Hegseth is just too extreme for second-in-command of the US military

What you posted was someone else characterization what he said. What he actually said is vastly different. When you read or hear someone characterize someone else's words, you should find the actual words that were said. Here they are:

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There’s no reason why the miracle of the re-establishment of the temple on the Temple Mount is not possible,” Hegseth said.

“I don’t know how it would happen. You don’t know how it would happen, but I know that it could happen,” he added.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/trumps-nominee-for-pentagon-chief-suggested-new-temple-could-be-built-on-temple-mount/

To properly characterize what he said is that there could be a temple built, he just didn't know how that could happen.

As for his book, American Crusade, the book is a topical discussion of right v left in our political spectrum and whether or not the American values of liberty and freedom will give way to regulations and laws. It has nothing to do with Muslims other than to say that the countries that harbor or support terrorism can and should be banned and it shouldn't matter if they happen to be Muslim theocracies.

 

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2 hours ago, Radiorum said:

Like what?

Like...making the military a fighting force instead of a trannie showcase?

Like...removing US forces from foreign conflicts?

Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

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On 12/7/2024 at 7:37 AM, Radiorum said:

Maybe Hegseth is just too extreme for second-in-command of the US military

Maybe? LMAO

He is not only too extreme, but completely IGNORANT about how to manage a large military organization.

SoD is NOT the place to learn on the job. Esp not for a drunkard.

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On 12/7/2024 at 7:56 AM, Nationalist said:

Or...maybe Pete's ideas appeal to the majority...of which you are not.

Majority of what? Do you even know what an Appeal to Popularity FALLACY is?

There's a big reason SoD is NOT an elective office. It's cause voters KNOW NOTHING about the necessary qualifications for leading the largest military organization in the world. Duh

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3 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Maybe? LMAO

He is not only too extreme, but completely IGNORANT about how to manage a large military organization.

SoD is NOT the place to learn on the job. Esp not for a drunkard.

What if your job is to lay sod? Is there a sod simulator?

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On 12/7/2024 at 10:45 AM, Nationalist said:

Like...making the military a fighting force instead of a trannie showcase?

Like...removing US forces from foreign conflicts?

You're an lDIOT, if you believe your policy preferences are QUALIFICATIONS to run the DoD.

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2 minutes ago, robosmith said:

You're an lDIOT, if you believe your policy preferences are QUALIFICATIONS to run the DoD.

You don't see how the democrats are manipulating you, do you?

Running the country is the world's largest business. But you steadfastly supported a candidate that never ran anything of any size and was never praised for her ability to do anything. But you are saying the the guy that is a decorated military veteran and officee isn't qualified?

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25 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Majority of what? Do you even know what an Appeal to Popularity FALLACY is?

There's a big reason SoD is NOT an elective office. It's cause voters KNOW NOTHING about the necessary qualifications for leading the largest military organization in the world. Duh

The voters know nothing eh?

I'm not surprised an ultra-Libbie like you thinks that.

Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

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2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

The voters know nothing eh?

Just like YOU know NOTHING about the importance and qualifications necessary to effectively run the DoD.

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

I'm not surprised an ultra-Libbie like you thinks that.

Go ahead and show us just how stupid you are by claiming the US voters are knowledgeable about the qualifications required to run the DoD. LMAO

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9 hours ago, robosmith said:

Just like YOU know NOTHING about the importance and qualifications necessary to effectively run the DoD.

Go ahead and show us just how stupid you are by claiming the US voters are knowledgeable about the qualifications required to run the DoD. LMAO

The electorate was smart enough to know that Brandon failed, that Kamala is a twit and that Lloyd J Austin III is a fat, gutless m0ron.

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The idea that a Senator might be biased due to their donors is something interesting but to me it's a reach in this instance.

First of all, every Senator is in the pocket of its donors, especially the military, on both sides.

Secondly, there was no reduction in defense department spending in Trump's first term.  I posted a graph recently that showed spending went up each year.

So this is all "what if..." "suppose that..." type thinking.

For the Senator to go against her own party, I would assume she has real misgivings.

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On 12/6/2024 at 8:15 PM, gatomontes99 said:

This "Republican" Senator has suddenly become steadfastly against Pete Hegseth.

Where do you get she is steadfastly against him from?

She has met several times with him. She has not endorsed him and pledged support yet, but it is hardly the opposite, that she is steadfastly against him either. 
 

 

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1 hour ago, User said:

Where do you get she is steadfastly against him from?

She has met several times with him. She has not endorsed him and pledged support yet, but it is hardly the opposite, that she is steadfastly against him either. 
 

 

She's moved. She was initially against him say things like he didn't have the experience.

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On 12/6/2024 at 7:15 PM, gatomontes99 said:

This "Republican" Senator has suddenly become steadfastly against Pete Hegseth. Hegseth has famously said that he will make the military better for those that serve. But that means fewer wars. Fewer wars is not good for the defense industry. Guess who supports Joni Ernst?

NorPAC
Apollo Global Management
Blackstone Group
RTX Corp
Capital Group

Do any of these companies have military contracts? Well, call me Ethel and feed me porridge, they do!

NorPAC

Apollo Global Management:

Blackstone Group:

RTX Group:

Capital Group:

 

Her top 5 donors all have a vested interest in continuous wars. Say that again. HER TOP 5 DONORS ALL HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN CONTINUOUS WARS. Is there any wonder why she doesn't support the guy that wants to get us out of unnecessary wars?

That RINO needs to be exposed and voted out. 

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5 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

She's moved. She was initially against him say things like he didn't have the experience.

She was never steadfastly opposed (not publically) to him before your comment here claiming she was. 

She was hesitant and non-committal last week. 

It is good to pressure her to support him, but she was never steadfastly opposed. 

LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... 

From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."

 

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Just now, Deluge said:

That RINO needs to be exposed and voted out. 

She is not a RINO. 

For crying out loud, even if she did not support Hegseth, that is one data point on her record. 

The charge of RINO is carelessly thrown around far too often by folks in the party against anyone who doesn't support everything 100% or is 100% Conservative ~ anarchist Libertarian. 

 

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LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... 

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3 minutes ago, User said:

She is not a RINO. 

For crying out loud, even if she did not support Hegseth, that is one data point on her record. 

The charge of RINO is carelessly thrown around far too often by folks in the party against anyone who doesn't support everything 100% or is 100% Conservative ~ anarchist Libertarian. 

 

Sorry dude, but this is not the time for centrists.

Perhaps after we clean house and get this country back on track.

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49 minutes ago, Deluge said:

Sorry dude, but this is not the time for centrists.

Perhaps after we clean house and get this country back on track.

Trump won on being more centrist. 

I think you are conflating being a RINO with not being a Trump loyalist. 

 

LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... 

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53 minutes ago, User said:

Trump won on being more centrist. 

I think you are conflating being a RINO with not being a Trump loyalist. 

Trump won on being MAGA. If he were centrist then he'd be like Nikki Haley, and Nikki Haley doesn't like illegal aliens being called criminals. 

The country needs a shove to the Right, not a light breeze. 

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1 hour ago, Deluge said:

Trump won on being MAGA. If he were centrist then he'd be like Nikki Haley, and Nikki Haley doesn't like illegal aliens being called criminals. 

The country needs a shove to the Right, not a light breeze. 

Being "MAGA" then is neither Republican nor Conservative. To the point here, calling this Senator a RINO is pointless then. What you should call here is not-MAGA if that is your point. 

There is no "if" about it. Trump clearly ran a more centrist campaign on labor, abortion, among other things. Hell, he just said he was open to raising the minimum wage and making a deal on DACA. 
 

LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... 

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