Mexican President attacks Canada- Says Canada has "severe" Fentanyl problem

[DUI_Offender]

Mexico president says Canada has a 'very serious' fentanyl problem

 Foreign Affairs Minister Mélanie Joly is not escalating a war of words with Mexico, after the Mexican president criticized Canada's culture and its framing of border issues.

"I fundamentally believe that many conversations, when it comes to diplomacy, are always better when they remain private," Joly said Monday during a teleconference from Brussels.

The rift between the two trading partners started with U.S. president-elect Donald Trump's declaration that he plans to impose 25 per cent tariffs on all goods from both countries unless they stop the flow of migrants and illegal drugs into the U.S.

Several federal and provincial officials in Canada responded by saying the issues at the Canadian border are vastly different from the Mexican border. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, for example, has voiced concerns that the level of Chinese investment in Mexico goes against the economic-security goals of Ottawa and Washington.

Some premiers have called on Canada to negotiate a trade deal with Washington independent from Mexico, ahead of the 2026 review of the Canada-U.S.-Mexico Agreement, which replaced NAFTA during Trump's last tenure in the White House.

In a Monday press conference, Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum said Mexico "must be respected, especially by its trading partners."

She also noted that Canada has "a very serious problem with fentanyl consumption," more than Mexico, and possibly as a result of some drug-decriminalization measures.

"We are not going to fall for a provocation of which country is better," she said, chalking some criticism from Canada up to political pandering.

"Mexico should not be used as part of (Canadian) electoral campaigns," she said.

Yet Sheinbaum also said Canada "could only wish they had the cultural riches Mexico has," saying her country has civilizations dating back thousands of years.

Asked to respond, Joly said she is reaching out to Mexican officials after speaking with the U.S., including about the "very important trade agreement" that includes all three countries.

"I know there has been many conversations in Canada about how we can work together and how we can, at the same time, protect our interests," she said.

"We have a positive relationship with Mexico, and we need to work with the country; that's definitely my goal."

source: 

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/mexico-president-says-canada-has-a-very-serious-fentanyl-problem-1.7131981

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Good lord. She has really lost her mind.  About 0.2% of illegal fentanyl comes over the Canadian border to the US, compared to 99.8% that comes from Mexico into the United States. Nobody cares about Mexico. Stay in your lane, lady. 

 

[Army Guy]

4 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Mexico president says Canada has a 'very serious' fentanyl problem

 Foreign Affairs Minister Mélanie Joly is not escalating a war of words with Mexico, after the Mexican president criticized Canada's culture and its framing of border issues.

"I fundamentally believe that many conversations, when it comes to diplomacy, are always better when they remain private," Joly said Monday during a teleconference from Brussels.

The rift between the two trading partners started with U.S. president-elect Donald Trump's declaration that he plans to impose 25 per cent tariffs on all goods from both countries unless they stop the flow of migrants and illegal drugs into the U.S.

Several federal and provincial officials in Canada responded by saying the issues at the Canadian border are vastly different from the Mexican border. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, for example, has voiced concerns that the level of Chinese investment in Mexico goes against the economic-security goals of Ottawa and Washington.

Some premiers have called on Canada to negotiate a trade deal with Washington independent from Mexico, ahead of the 2026 review of the Canada-U.S.-Mexico Agreement, which replaced NAFTA during Trump's last tenure in the White House.

In a Monday press conference, Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum said Mexico "must be respected, especially by its trading partners."

She also noted that Canada has "a very serious problem with fentanyl consumption," more than Mexico, and possibly as a result of some drug-decriminalization measures.

"We are not going to fall for a provocation of which country is better," she said, chalking some criticism from Canada up to political pandering.

"Mexico should not be used as part of (Canadian) electoral campaigns," she said.

Yet Sheinbaum also said Canada "could only wish they had the cultural riches Mexico has," saying her country has civilizations dating back thousands of years.

Asked to respond, Joly said she is reaching out to Mexican officials after speaking with the U.S., including about the "very important trade agreement" that includes all three countries.

"I know there has been many conversations in Canada about how we can work together and how we can, at the same time, protect our interests," she said.

"We have a positive relationship with Mexico, and we need to work with the country; that's definitely my goal."

source: 

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/mexico-president-says-canada-has-a-very-serious-fentanyl-problem-1.7131981

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Good lord. She has really lost her mind.  About 0.2% of illegal fentanyl comes over the Canadian border to the US, compared to 99.8% that comes from Mexico into the United States. Nobody cares about Mexico. Stay in your lane, lady. 

 

She did not say anything about how much fentanyl is coming into the US from Canada, but rather pointed out Canada has a consumption crises...

This is a liberal tactic form the liberals blaming everyone else for our problems except the liberals, who have been in power for the last 9 years....and everything they have touched has turned into a huge dumpster fire....Canada should take care of our problems first before accusing other nations of not doing their part....which we have zero room to talk...

[DUI_Offender]

18 hours ago, Army Guy said:

She did not say anything about how much fentanyl is coming into the US from Canada, but rather pointed out Canada has a consumption crises...

She said more fentanyl is coming in from Canada than Mexico, which is a lie, and even she knows it. 

Saying we have a "serious fentanyl problem," when Mexico is exporting the majority of fentanyl and meth to America, is pretty ridiculous. Especially when violent Mexican Cartel gangs are controlling the product. 

18 hours ago, Army Guy said:

This is a liberal tactic form the liberals blaming everyone else for our problems except the liberals, who have been in power for the last 9 years....and everything they have touched has turned into a huge dumpster fire....Canada should take care of our problems first before accusing other nations of not doing their part....which we have zero room to talk...

I'm not the least bit surprised that you would sellout your own country, even when it's Mexico that attacks Canada.

Edited December 4, 2024 by DUI_Offender

[Moonlight Graham]

Mexico saying another country has a drug problem HAHAHA

[Scott75]

11 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

11 hours ago, Army Guy said:

She did not say anything about how much fentanyl is coming into the US from Canada, but rather pointed out Canada has a consumption crises...

She said more fentanyl is coming in from Canada than Mexico

If Mexico's President Claudia Sheinbaum said that, she didn't say it in the article you quoted. Below is the part of your article that quotes Claudia Sheinbaum's comment on fentanyl:

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She also noted that Canada has "a very serious problem with fentanyl consumption," more than Mexico, and possibly as a result of some drug-decriminalization measures.

**

So she said that Canada has a very serious problem with fentanyl consumption, and that this problem was more serious than Mexico's problem with fentanyl. Absolutely nothing on how much fentanyl is coming in from Canada. So unless you're referring to some other article wherein Sheinbaum actually -did- say that more fentanyl is coming in from Canada as opposed to Mexico, you misunderstood what Sheinbaum said.

Edited December 4, 2024 by phoenyx75

[ExFlyer]

11 hours ago, Army Guy said:

She did not say anything about how much fentanyl is coming into the US from Canada, but rather pointed out Canada has a consumption crises...

This is a liberal tactic form the liberals blaming everyone else for our problems except the liberals, who have been in power for the last 9 years....and everything they have touched has turned into a huge dumpster fire....Canada should take care of our problems first before accusing other nations of not doing their part....which we have zero room to talk...

I agree.

We even have advertisements on TV about the problems claiming we lose 20 people per day and that it is a crisis.

[DUI_Offender]

3 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

I agree.

We even have advertisements on TV about the problems claiming we lose 20 people per day and that it is a crisis.

This is not the issue. The issue is with undocumented immigrants and drugs entering the United States. 

Trump is probably too anxious to impose tariffs on goods imported to the USA, trying to rationalise it by stating Mexico and Canada need to stop exporting fentanyl into America, and increase border security. These problems have plagued the US-Mexican border for decades. However in Canada, very little fentanyl crosses the border, about 1/1000th of what is seized at the southern border.

As for illegals, we have recently seen a surge in undocumented people from India and other places cross the US-Canada border illegally, however even with the record totals in 2023, the problem in Mexico is nearly 25 times as bad. So it really makes little sense to punish both countries equally. 

[Army Guy]

13 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

She said more fentanyl is coming in from Canada than Mexico, which is a lie, and even she knows it. 

Saying we have a "serious fentanyl problem," when Mexico is exporting the majority of fentanyl and meth to America, is pretty ridiculous. Especially when violent Mexican Cartel gangs are controlling the product. 

I'm not the least bit surprised that you would sellout your own country, even when it's Mexico that attacks Canada. You are everything that is wrong with Canada. No wonder our military sucks, when people like you are allowed to serve in it. 

She said no such thing, this is a comprehension problem on your part, below is a quote that you highlighted...i even underlined and colored it blue for you....over 6000 canadian deaths a year due to over dose sounds like a consumption problem to me...

She also noted that Canada has "a very serious problem with fentanyl consumption," more than Mexico, and possibly as a result of some drug-decriminalization measures.

 

Pointing out your mistakes or lies is not selling out the country, And lets not forget it was Canada that stuck out first , pointing out that it is mexico that is the problem....to take Canada out of the spot light...

While you were living in moms basement i was serving the country in some of the worlds greatest sh!tholes with some of the best Canadians this country has to offer. and no where did i run into you...Our military does not suck, It is exactly the military Canada wants, or it would have changed it decades ago...Thats right princess your to lazy to change it, and until Canadians stand up as a whole nothing will change....It's people like "you" that don't want to change it....

1 hour ago, DUI_Offender said:

This is not the issue. The issue is with undocumented immigrants and drugs entering the United States. 

Trump is probably too anxious to impose tariffs on goods imported to the USA, trying to rationalise it by stating Mexico and Canada need to stop exporting fentanyl into America, and increase border security. These problems have plagued the US-Mexican border for decades. However in Canada, very little fentanyl crosses the border, about 1/1000th of what is seized at the southern border.

As for illegals, we have recently seen a surge in undocumented people from India and other places cross the US-Canada border illegally, however even with the record totals in 2023, the problem in Mexico is nearly 25 times as bad. So it really makes little sense to punish both countries equally. 

Again you used a source that does not state anything your trying to say here...

[CdnFox]

14 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

"I fundamentally believe that many conversations, when it comes to diplomacy, are always better when they remain private," Joly said Monday during a teleconference from Brussels.

Justin was the one who started all of this! He's the one who was bad-mouthing Mexico, that's why they're responding.

If you don't believe that your dirty laundry should be aired in public maybe don't be the first one to the clothesline. What a bunch of hypocrites.

[Scott75]

22 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

22 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

On 12/3/2024 at 10:09 PM, Army Guy said:

She did not say anything about how much fentanyl is coming into the US from Canada, but rather pointed out Canada has a consumption crises...

This is a liberal tactic form the liberals blaming everyone else for our problems except the liberals, who have been in power for the last 9 years....and everything they have touched has turned into a huge dumpster fire....Canada should take care of our problems first before accusing other nations of not doing their part....which we have zero room to talk...

I agree.

We even have advertisements on TV about the problems claiming we lose 20 people per day and that it is a crisis.

This is not the issue. The issue is with undocumented immigrants and drugs entering the United States. 

Trump is probably too anxious to impose tariffs on goods imported to the USA, trying to rationalise it by stating Mexico and Canada need to stop exporting fentanyl into America, and increase border security. These problems have plagued the US-Mexican border for decades. However in Canada, very little fentanyl crosses the border, about 1/1000th of what is seized at the southern border.

As for illegals, we have recently seen a surge in undocumented people from India and other places cross the US-Canada border illegally, however even with the record totals in 2023, the problem in Mexico is nearly 25 times as bad. So it really makes little sense to punish both countries equally. 

 

Alright, it -seems- that you've backed off claiming that Sheinbaum "said more fentanyl is coming in from Canada than Mexico". I seriously doubt the difference is 1000 times as much as Mexico's fentanyl drug exports, but I can certainly believe that it's a fair amount more. Here's what I was able to find from an article I found online:

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US Customs and Border Patrol recognizes three regions where fentanyl crosses into the country. These regions are the northern border dividing the US and Canada, the southwest border dividing the US and Mexico, and coastal and interior ports of entry. The latter includes international airports like those in Chicago and seaports such as those in Miami. 

 

Although there are legal ports of entry throughout the US, fentanyl is primarily trafficked across the southwest border, with 88% of it passing through official southwest ports of entry.

**

Source:

https://usafacts.org/answers/how-much-fentanyl-is-seized-at-us-borders/country/united-states/

Personally, I think this notion Trump has that the solution to the United States' drug problems is to impose tarriffs on one or more countries that border the U.S. if these countries don't "stop the flow of migrants and illegal drugs into the U.S." is unrealistic. If he'd said -reduce- the flow of migrants and illegal drugs, and then set a certain reduction in percentage, it might be doable.

Imposing tariffs on other countries can certainly have benefits at times, for instance in spurring domestic production of goods, but tying tariffs to how much drugs and/or migrants are entering a country illegally sounds like a particularly bad idea, especially since he doesn't even have a plan on any concrete steps he'd like Mexico and Canada to take.

 

Edited December 5, 2024 by phoenyx75

[ExFlyer]

3 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

This is not the issue. The issue is with undocumented immigrants and drugs entering the United States.

Actually, you posted and claimed Mexico President said Canada had a fentnyl prob;em worse than Mexico.

I disagree as she never said that.

Mexico and the US have a problem...to try and make it sound like Mexico said Canada has the same issues is misleading and actually quite false

 

 

[DUI_Offender]

12 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Actually, you posted and claimed Mexico President said Canada had a fentnyl prob;em worse than Mexico.

It is possibly worse in Mexico. The same thing happened with meth production. Mexico is the leading exporter of both drugs to the United States, but eventually the people started getting addicted to the drugs. We are seeing that happen in Mexico:

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/fentanyl-use-spreads-deeper-into-mexico-worrying-authorities-2024-02-20/

The problem is, that there is not a ton of credible data in Mexico about fentanyl use. Additionally, with so much chaos and corruption, it is difficult to determine the exact number of deaths to fentanyl.

12 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Mexico and the US have a problem...to try and make it sound like Mexico said Canada has the same issues is misleading and actually quite false

And that is exactly what the Mexican PM is trying to imply, by attacking Canada for an issue that is not important to Trump- the fentanyl epidemic in Canada. Trump only is concerned about where the fentanyl is coming from- Mexico.

The point still stands- the problems with immigration and drugs flowing into the United States are nearly exclusive to Mexico.  The Mexican PM is being disingenuous by attacking Canada.

Edited December 4, 2024 by DUI_Offender

[ExFlyer]

1 minute ago, DUI_Offender said:

It is worse in Mexico. The same thing happened with meth production. Mexico is the leading exporter of both drugs to the United States, but eventually the people started getting addicted to the drugs. We are seeing that happen in Mexico:

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/fentanyl-use-spreads-deeper-into-mexico-worrying-authorities-2024-02-20/

The problem is, that there is not a ton of credible data in Mexico about fentanyl use. Additionally, with so much chaos and corruption, it is difficult to determine the exact number of deaths to fentanyl.

And that is exactly what the Mexican PM is trying to imply, by attacking Canada for an issue that is not important to Trump- the fentanyl epidemic in Canada. Trump only is concerned about where the fentanyl is coming from- Mexico.

The point still stands- the problems with immigration and drugs flowing into the United States are nearly exclusive to Mexico.  The Mexican PM is being disingenuous by attacking Canada.

You downvote what I posted and yet, you said the exact same thing... except with a lot more words.

The issue is not Canada but Mexico, and the president of Mexico . As Army Guy said "She did not say anything about how much fentanyl is coming into the US from Canada, but rather pointed out Canada has a consumption crises... " But Canada's crissi is not anywhere near that of the US.

[herbie]

16 hours ago, Army Guy said:

This is a liberal tactic form the liberals blaming everyone else for our problems except the liberals, who have been in power for the last 9 years....

Before that no one used drugs in Canada.
There were no meth heads, crack users, heroin addicts or even pot smokers in Harper's day. Watermelons were 25c in February and gas was only 50c a litre. Eggh, egghh git off my lawn....

[CdnFox]

36 minutes ago, herbie said:

Before that no one used drugs in Canada.

Before that governments took responsibility they took actions to try and tackle the problem instead of blaming other people.

And they didn't try woke bullcrap like safe injection sites

Edited December 4, 2024 by CdnFox

[DUI_Offender]

1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

You downvote what I posted and yet, you said the exact same thing... except with a lot more words.

The issue is not Canada but Mexico, and the president of Mexico . As Army Guy said "She did not say anything about how much fentanyl is coming into the US from Canada, but rather pointed out Canada has a consumption crises... " But Canada's crissi is not anywhere near that of the US.

 I didn't downvote you, if I did it was by accident.

 

Edited December 4, 2024 by DUI_Offender

[DUI_Offender]

25 minutes ago, herbie said:

Before that no one used drugs in Canada.
There were no meth heads, crack users, heroin addicts or even pot smokers in Harper's day. Watermelons were 25c in February and gas was only 50c a litre. Eggh, egghh git off my lawn....

Precisely.

No idea why people like Army Guy and others blame every single thing on Trudeau. It's like if the Conservative get in power next year, suddenly people will stop using drugs, there will be no crime, Canada and the USA will be the greatest of friends again, and there will be candy canes and bubble gum in the sky.

[CdnFox]

10 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Precisely.

No idea why people like Army Guy and others blame every single thing on Trudeau. It's like if the Conservative get in power next year, suddenly people will stop using drugs, there will be no crime, Canada and the USA will be the greatest of friends again, and there will be candy canes and bubble gum in the sky.

Well if history repeats itself then sure, there will be people doing drugs and such, but it will go down not up. It will get better now worse. And so on.

The measure of whether or not something is effective isn't that it stops all together necessarily, but that is substantially improves. And under Trudeau things have gotten substantially worse.

Now to be fair to true though medical issues and such are largely the responsibility of the provinces and that can't be forgotten. But he has still played a significant role in this crisis And has utterly failed to do anything to try and mitigate or resolve it.

I'm pretending otherwise as you are doing and trying to blame it on a government that has been out of power for 9 years just shows you don't really care about the issue or the deaths, you care about the politics

[WestCanMan]

I had a chance to meet Claudia Scheinbaum once when I was in Mexico. 

I got some tequila from a guy who gave his name as Doobie Scheinbaum, and he said: "Hey meester, do you want to meet my seester? She's a virgin!" He looked like the south end of a northbound horse, so that's basically a DNA match.  

 Anyhow, no one ever offers their sister up like that in Canada. I guess we're just not "culturally rich" enough 🙁

[eyeball]

18 hours ago, Army Guy said:

She did not say anything about how much fentanyl is coming into the US from Canada, but rather pointed out Canada has a consumption crises...

This is a liberal tactic form the liberals blaming everyone else for our problems except the liberals, who have been in power for the last 9 years....and everything they have touched has turned into a huge dumpster fire....Canada should take care of our problems first before accusing other nations of not doing their part....which we have zero room to talk...

This particular dumpster fire was set decades and decades ago. The issue of blaming foreign importers of drugs is an old time drug war tactic that all governments used to avoid the pain of seriously curbing domestic consumption.

North Americans are the biggest consumers of illicit drugs in the entire world.

In any case it's almost always white mules that smugglers employ and who the authorities just wave through while focusing on shaking down the foreigners everyone has been conditioned to suspect.

[Zeitgeist]

Canada has a fentanyl problem, but the Mexican government is literally in an ongoing war with the drug cartel over control of the country.  There are parts of Mexico with curfews because the police can’t protect the citizens from the countless squads of criminals. 

[Zeitgeist]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Before that governments took responsibility they took actions to try and tackle the problem instead of blaming other people.

And they didn't try woke bullcrap like safe injection sites

Safe injection site is an oxymoron.  Injecting hard drugs is inherently dangerous.  Canada has become an addiction enabler, more specifically the sucky woke pushovers in BC.  Heaven forbid they actually try to help people stop taking drugs.  I’m waiting for a class action lawsuit of the parents of dead opioid overdosers to sue the BC government.  They need to do it while the communists are still in office.  

[herbie]

You can just walk into any govt office in BC and say "Hey! I'm a junkie, gimme fentanyl" and they have to. Free! It's true, I heard it from a guy. Everyone is saying that.
They pick a random taxpayer with the computer and ding them $40 to pay for it. Or take the house you live in because you don't have the papers 20 years later proving where you got the money to buy it.
If you protest they send you to gulags up north they call 'logging camps', and are short of doctors because they pay them the same as Wendys does.
Yuh, yuh, yuh... what do them experts know anyways? Everyone knows they're stoopid.

Edited December 5, 2024 by herbie

[Dougie93]

30 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Canada has a fentanyl problem, but the Mexican government is literally in an ongoing war with the drug cartel over control of the country.  There are parts of Mexico with curfews because the police can’t protect the citizens from the countless squads of criminals. 

ah, but how amusing it is, to see the leftist degenerate governments in Canada & Mexico turning on each other

President Trump divides & conquers the Commies

MAGA

 

[Army Guy]

On 12/4/2024 at 4:55 PM, herbie said:

Before that no one used drugs in Canada.
There were no meth heads, crack users, heroin addicts or even pot smokers in Harper's day. Watermelons were 25c in February and gas was only 50c a litre. Eggh, egghh git off my lawn....

Again your use of distractions is telling but standards for a leftist.... address the issue, Liberals have been in power for 8 plus years, FREE to change anything they wished or want to...Thats the problem why change anything, that takes work...You guys on the left have blamed harper for long enough....it is time to step up and own what you have done, which is everything you could to start dumpster fires in every department in government....

When PP gets elected he is going to give your balls back, allowing you to see the damage the liberal/ NDP government has done....and yes in the case of those on the left your brains are in your balls.