South Korea imposes Martial Law

[DUI_Offender]

Several hours ago, the South Korean leader imposed Martial Law over the country:

 

South Korean President Yoon Suk Yeol declares emergency martial law

Yoon made announcement during televised briefing

The Associated Press · Posted: Dec 03, 2024 7:02 AM MST | Last Updated: 25 minutes ago

People watch a TV screen showing South Korean President Yoon Suk Yeol's televised briefing at a bus terminal in Seoul on Tuesday. (Ahn Young-joon/The Associated Press)

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South Korean President Yoon Suk Yeol declared "emergency martial law" on Tuesday, accusing the country's opposition of controlling the parliament, sympathizing with North Korea and paralyzing the government with anti-state activities.

Yoon made the announcement during a televised briefing, vowing to "eradicate pro-North Korean forces and protect the constitutional democratic order." He declared the step as critical in defending the country's constitutional order. It wasn't immediately clear how the steps would affect the country's governance and democracy. 

"I declare martial law to protect the free Republic of Korea from the threat of North Korean communist forces, to eradicate the despicable pro-North Korean anti-state forces that are plundering the freedom and happiness of our people and to protect the free constitutional order," Yoon said.

It is the first time since 1980 that martial law has been declared in South Korea.

The surprise move sent shockwaves through the country, which had a series of authoritarian leaders early in its history but has been considered democratic since the 1980s. The Korean won was down sharply against the U.S. dollar.

The Biden administration is in contact with the South Korean government and is monitoring the situation closely, a White House spokesperson said on Tuesday. 

source; https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/south-korea-martial-law-1.7399501

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"I declare martial law to protect the free Republic of Korea from the threat of North Korean communist forces, to eradicate the despicable pro-North Korean anti-state forces that are plundering the freedom and happiness of our people and to protect the free constitutional order," Yoon said.

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What bullshit. 

The South Koreans parliament opposition has declared that Yoon Suk Yeol "no longer runs the country,: and the people are starting to revolt. 

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Edited December 3, 2024 by DUI_Offender

[DUI_Offender]

 

I sure hope the Americans have the courage to rise up against Trump, if he ever tries something like this, but I doubt it. 

[Michael Hardner]

6 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

 

I sure hope the Americans have the courage to rise up against Trump, if he ever tries something like this, but I doubt it. 

Maybe he'll do it, who knows ?

Gotta stomp out that "woke"... erase the deep state etc... 

[User]

44 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

I sure hope the Americans have the courage to rise up against Trump, if he ever tries something like this, but I doubt it. 

Fortunately, in our country, we have the 2nd Amendment. 

[Aristides]

42 minutes ago, User said:

Fortunately, in our country, we have the 2nd Amendment. 

Why rely on Congress when you have guns. The Korean parliament including his own party leader stood up to Yoon and made him back down. No one is expecting that from the Trump party.

Edited December 3, 2024 by Aristides

[User]

5 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Why rely on Congress when you have guns. The Korean parliament including his own party leader stood up to Yoon and made him back down. No one is expecting that from the Trump party.

Trump doesn't need to declare martial law to fight Congress either... so, what is your point?

 

[Aristides]

3 minutes ago, User said:

Trump doesn't need to declare martial law to fight Congress either... so, what is your point?

 

My point is, this Congress won't stand up to him no matter what he does. Your checks and balances won't mean dick. Hope this is all hypothetical but I guess we'll see. 

[User]

2 hours ago, Aristides said:

My point is, this Congress won't stand up to him no matter what he does. Your checks and balances won't mean dick. Hope this is all hypothetical but I guess we'll see. 

Our checks and balances involve more than Congress and a President... 

[DUI_Offender]

3 hours ago, Aristides said:

Why rely on Congress when you have guns. The Korean parliament including his own party leader stood up to Yoon and made him back down. No one is expecting that from the Trump party.

Very strange that so many countries in the World are rising up, and fighting for democracy. While the so-called "greatest defender of democracy" is watching the safeguards, to protect the democratic institutions that made America great for centuries, is eroding. Yet nobody is doing anything about it.

MAGA loons don't care about people, or society. 

Edited December 4, 2024 by DUI_Offender

[Aristides]

2 hours ago, User said:

Our checks and balances involve more than Congress and a President... 

Like what, other than the SCOTUS that has already been compromised.

[User]

16 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Like what, other than the SCOTUS that has already been compromised.

How is the SCOTUS compromised?

We are a Federal Republic of the United States based on a Constitution. 

Trump doesn't just get to declare himself King, no matter how much you fearmongers seem to think he can. 

[Aristides]

1 minute ago, User said:

How is the SCOTUS compromised?

We are a Federal Republic of the United States based on a Constitution. 

Trump doesn't just get to declare himself King, no matter how much you fearmongers seem to think he can. 

Trump packed it in his last term.

Trump can do whatever your system lets him do and who is going to stop him.

[DUI_Offender]

 

Amazing that South Koreans have bigger balls than Americans do, when it comes to protecting democracy. 

[User]

10 hours ago, Aristides said:

Trump packed it in his last term.

Trump can do whatever your system lets him do and who is going to stop him.

What do you mean by he packed it and how does that mean Trump can do whatever he wants?

You offer nothing of substance, just absurd fear-mongering. 

Our system doesn't allow for a President to declare martial law as happened in South Korea. 

2 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

Amazing that South Koreans have bigger balls than Americans do, when it comes to protecting democracy. 

Which is why we still have some 30,000 American troops there helping to protect them...

[Aristides]

1 hour ago, User said:

What do you mean by he packed it and how does that mean Trump can do whatever he wants?

You offer nothing of substance, just absurd fear-mongering. 

He was filling openings right up to a month before he left office, even though the Republicans refused to accept a Obama nomination a year before an election on the basis it being too close to an election. 

I'll ask again. Who is going to stop him?

[User]

3 minutes ago, Aristides said:

He was filling openings right up to a month before he left office, even though the Republicans refused to accept a Obama nomination a year before an election on the basis it being too close to an election. 

OK... none of this explains your assertion that the Supreme Court is just going to go along with Trump installing himself as some kind of dictator or more specifically some implementation of martial law like this. 

Nor is it "packing" the court to appoint judges through the normal process. That is just fulfilling his duties with the powers he currently has. 
 

4 minutes ago, Aristides said:

I'll ask again. Who is going to stop him?

Stop him from what?

He has no power to do what was done in South Korea. 

[Aristides]

5 hours ago, User said:

OK... none of this explains your assertion that the Supreme Court is just going to go along with Trump installing himself as some kind of dictator or more specifically some implementation of martial law like this. 

Nor is it "packing" the court to appoint judges through the normal process. That is just fulfilling his duties with the powers he currently has. 
 

 

According to the Republicans in 2014, appointing a justice a year before an election was not a normal process. If they actually believed that, they wouldn't have approved Trumps last two appointments. They did approve them because they wanted their people on the bench.

 

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Stop him from what?

He has no power to do what was done in South Korea. 

Doing whatever he wants. Who is going to stop him, the Trump party members in Congress?

[User]

16 minutes ago, Aristides said:

According to the Republicans in 2014, appointing a justice a year before an election was not a normal process. If they actually believed that, they wouldn't have approved Trumps last two appointments. They did approve them because they wanted their people on the bench.

You are conflating an argument about Senators then saying it was an election year, so let the voters choose who will appoint the next justice vs what is Trump following the normal process to appoint a justice in response to your claims that something improper happened here or some kind of nefarious packing... in response to your assertion the court is corrupt. 

Which, you have yet to offer any actual evidence or argument in support of. 

28 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Doing whatever he wants. Who is going to stop him, the Trump party members in Congress?

How can he do whatever he wants?

This is your bad argument to support here. 

[Aristides]

4 minutes ago, User said:

You are conflating an argument about Senators then saying it was an election year, so let the voters choose who will appoint the next justice vs what is Trump following the normal process to appoint a justice in response to your claims that something improper happened here or some kind of nefarious packing... in response to your assertion the court is corrupt. 

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I'm saying the those Senators were full of shit, they allowed Trump to appoint judges right up to his last day in power while telling Obama a year before an election the voters should decide. I'm not saying they are corrupt, just that they are more likely to see things Trump's way.

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Which, you have yet to offer any actual evidence or argument in support of. 

How can he do whatever he wants?

This is your bad argument to support here

I'm asking who is going to stop him. You can't seem to answer.

[User]

5 minutes ago, Aristides said:

I'm saying the those Senators were full of shit, they allowed Trump to appoint judges right up to his last day in power while telling Obama a year before an election the voters should decide. I'm not saying they are corrupt, just that they are more likely to see things Trump's way.

Great, this thread is not about your thoughts on the politics around Senate confirmation of Justices. 

More likely to see things Trumps way was not your claim. You said:

"Like what, other than the SCOTUS that has already been compromised."

How are they compromised in such a way as to not stop Trump from doing whatever he wants?

 

8 minutes ago, Aristides said:

I'm asking who is going to stop him. You can't seem to answer.

Stop him from what?

You have not offered anything to answer. 

[Aristides]

1 hour ago, User said:

Great, this thread is not about your thoughts on the politics around Senate confirmation of Justices. 

More likely to see things Trumps way was not your claim. You said:

"Like what, other than the SCOTUS that has already been compromised."

How are they compromised in such a way as to not stop Trump from doing whatever he wants?

 

Stop him from what?

You have not offered anything to answer. 

No discussion required, the Republican controlled senate under McConnell is blatantly two faced.

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Stop him from what?

You have not offered anything to answer. 

Anything he wants, who's going to stop him? You haven't offered anything to answer.

[User]

33 minutes ago, Aristides said:

No discussion required, the Republican controlled senate under McConnell is blatantly two faced.

Great that you think that... it wasn't the discussion. Again:

More likely to see things Trumps way was not your claim. You said:

"Like what, other than the SCOTUS that has already been compromised."

How are they compromised in such a way as to not stop Trump from doing whatever he wants?

33 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Anything he wants, who's going to stop him? You haven't offered anything to answer.

How does he have the power to do anything he wants? He doesn't.

[Aristides]

9 minutes ago, User said:

Great that you think that... it wasn't the discussion. Again:

More likely to see things Trumps way was not your claim. You said:

"Like what, other than the SCOTUS that has already been compromised."

How are they compromised in such a way as to not stop Trump from doing whatever he wants?

How does he have the power to do anything he wants? He doesn't.

I didn't say they couldn't, I asked who will.