Mayor says he refuses to be bullied or pay fine for not flying Pride flag

[CdnFox]

Mayor says he refuses to be bullied or pay fine in Pride flag flap | Toronto Sun

So the short version is the town decided not to fly the gay flag for pride month. The Ontario Human Rights board call that Transphobia and demanded that the mayor who voted for that paid $5,000 personally and that the town had to pay $10,000, and that the mayor also had to attend a re-education camp to learn about trans people.

 

He didn't say anything negative about trans people. The town did not vote against trans people or anything they just did not want to fly the flag. And now they are both being attacked personally and as a community because they didn't want to be forced to do something.

How insane the whole trans agenda has gotten. It's not even a question of saying anything negative about them, if you refuse to praise them and sing their glories then you may personally be on the hook for thousands of dollars. You must literally say what they want you to say and do what they want you to do or face severe repercussions from the state.

I hope they fight this all the way to the supreme court. It is absolutely disgusting that people be forced to wave a flag and sing the Praises of something that they don't necessarily agree with

[Five of swords]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Mayor says he refuses to be bullied or pay fine in Pride flag flap | Toronto Sun

So the short version is the town decided not to fly the gay flag for pride month. The Ontario Human Rights board call that Transphobia and demanded that the mayor who voted for that paid $5,000 personally and that the town had to pay $10,000, and that the mayor also had to attend a re-education camp to learn about trans people.

 

He didn't say anything negative about trans people. The town did not vote against trans people or anything they just did not want to fly the flag. And now they are both being attacked personally and as a community because they didn't want to be forced to do something.

How insane the whole trans agenda has gotten. It's not even a question of saying anything negative about them, if you refuse to praise them and sing their glories then you may personally be on the hook for thousands of dollars. You must literally say what they want you to say and do what they want you to do or face severe repercussions from the state.

I hope they fight this all the way to the supreme court. It is absolutely disgusting that people be forced to wave a flag and sing the Praises of something that they don't necessarily agree with

If you don't worship gay people then you aren't really Canadian. He should be deported.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Five of swords said:

If you don't worship gay people then you aren't really Canadian. He should be deported.

That's basically what the human rights tribunal in Ontario said.

[Venandi]

6 hours ago, CdnFox said:

So the short version is the town decided not to fly the gay flag for pride month.

Apparently the town is so small it doesn't even have a city owned flagpole. Cool eh?

Good to see the mayor simply say NO though. That reaction is likely to become more common in future, people will simply refuse to play along. Since the alphabet folk refused to take yes for an answer they now need to develop the coping skills to deal with HELL NO.... nothing like snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

I can't help but be utterly astounded at how hard they worked at losing the support of tolerant people who previously wished them well. In the entire history of tactical miscalculations, this one was probably the easiest to anticipate and avoid.

"Selection and maintenance of the aim" clearly got lost on the way to that hearing.

Edited December 3, 2024 by Venandi

[Five of swords]

5 hours ago, CdnFox said:

That's basically what the human rights tribunal in Ontario said.

Because it is obviously true

[ironstone]

Ezra Levant wrote a good book about these Human Rights Commissions. They are scary.

[Zeitgeist]

Good luck, Mayor.  You don’t have freedom of speech, religious rights, or the freedom to vote with your conscience in Canada, a country that is run by radical activists and unaccountable “Human Rights Commissions.”

You really have to go back to 1930’s Germany and Russia to find this level of suppression in a so-called democracy in the West.  Canadians aren’t doing anything about it either, because they’ve been cowed into compliance by government and media.  Frozen bank accounts and public doxing anyone?

This is all about social engineering and disempowering the family unit and local democracy, paid for by your tax dollars, yes the LGBTQ+ Egale and the HRC included.

The whole institutional mess needs a revamp.  It’s not happening because not even the Ontario Conservative government has the guts.

Canada is no longer a free country.  

Edited December 3, 2024 by Zeitgeist

[Five of swords]

33 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Good luck, Mayor.  You don’t have freedom of speech, religious rights, or the freedom to vote with your conscience in Canada, a country that is run by radical activists and unaccountable “Human Rights Commissions.”

You really have to go back to 1930’s Germany and Russia to find this level of suppression in a so-called democracy in the West.  Canadians aren’t doing anything about it either, because they’ve been cowed into compliance by government and media.  Frozen bank accounts and public doxing anyone?

This is all about social engineering and disempowering the family unit and local democracy, paid for by your tax dollars, yes the LGBTQ+ Egale and the HRC included.

The whole institutional mess needs a revamp.  It’s not happening because not even the Ontario Conservative government has the guts.

Canada is no longer a free country.  

1930s Germany was actually the revolt against this level of suppression. 

[Zeitgeist]

25 minutes ago, Five of swords said:

1930s Germany was actually the revolt against this level of suppression. 

What, the banning of all political parties except the Nazi party or the brown shirts vandalizing Jewish-owned businesses?

Any society that doesn’t allow someone to vote with their conscience or speak their mind on an issue is oppressive by definition.

Canada is under the control of globalist woke-green fascists.  Their intent is a kind of communist wealth redistribution and totalitarian manipulation of social behaviour towards UN climate and Sustainable Development Goals.  In practice, since true communism is against human nature, it’s just another iteration of the totalitarian impulse in the form of stakeholder capitalism, a fascistic partnership between government and large corporations to advance their interests, which usually are all about self-interest, under the cover of saving the planet.  The only acceptable publicly-held beliefs in this creepy scheme are inclusivity and fighting climate change.  Family and local decision-making (subsidiarity), the cornerstones of democracy, are in the way of this machine.

Also the trans phenomenon is no accident.  Big pharma and big tech benefit from biochemical manipulation and eradication of natural gender and all things natural and human.  Transhumanism and artificial intelligence are bedfellows.  We are already virtual cyborgs.  Just try going without your cell phone for more than a day.  

Edited December 3, 2024 by Zeitgeist

[Michael Hardner]

43 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

You don’t have
1) freedom of speech
2) religious rights,
3) or the freedom to vote with your conscience in Canada,
4) a country that is run by radical activists and unaccountable “Human Rights Commissions.”

1) as a mayor, you're right, you can't say anything you want without legislative consequence
2) they weren't invoked here
3) this wasn't invoked here
4) like Doug Ford ?  He could do something about this if he wanted to.

[Michael Hardner]

To be clear, I don't agree with the placement of HRCs as extrajudicial bodies in the government.  It's an aberration that nobody seems to want to address.

[myata]

7 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I don't agree with the placement of HRCs as extrajudicial bodies in the government.  It's an aberration that nobody seems to want to address.

What is the the legal and/or constitutional grounds for the existence and powers of these bodies? It's a nonsense and a clear aberration in a transparent and responsible democracy.

[Michael Hardner]

1 minute ago, myata said:

What is the the legal and/or constitutional grounds for the existence and powers of these bodies? It's a nonsense and a clear aberration in a transparent and responsible democracy.

I did look into this in the past. It seems like they're not constitutional, and just waiting for somebody to stick their neck out and challenge them.

[Five of swords]

43 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

What, the banning of all political parties except the Nazi party or the brown shirts vandalizing Jewish-owned businesses?

Any society that doesn’t allow someone to vote with their conscience or speak their mind on an issue is oppressive by definition.

Canada is under the control of globalist woke-green fascists.  Their intent is a kind of communist wealth redistribution and totalitarian manipulation of social behaviour towards UN climate and Sustainable Development Goals.  In practice, since true communism is against human nature, it’s just another iteration of the totalitarian impulse in the form of stakeholder capitalism, a fascistic partnership between government and large corporations to advance their interests, which usually are all about self-interest, under the cover of saving the planet.  The only acceptable publicly-held beliefs in this creepy scheme are inclusivity and fighting climate change.  Family and local decision-making (subsidiarity), the cornerstones of democracy, are in the way of this machine.

Also the trans phenomenon is no accident.  Big pharma and big tech benefit from biochemical manipulation and eradication of natural gender and all things natural and human.  Transhumanism and artificial intelligence are bedfellows.  We are already virtual cyborgs.  Just try going without your cell phone for more than a day.  

The trans phenomenon also existed in Germany, until the nsdap shut it down. It never could have happened 'democratically' because of wealth distribution. Only a dictator that cannot be bought could have liberated germany.

[Legato]

37 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I did look into this in the past. It seems like they're not constitutional, and just waiting for somebody to stick their neck out and challenge them.

I'm not well read on HRC"s but if they're not constitutional why are they allowed to exist and practice.

 

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Five of swords said:

Because it is obviously true

If you're a deranged leftie who thinks people should cede their personal rights to a central authority it is. 

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

1) as a mayor, you're right, you can't say anything you want without legislative consequence

Didn't Say anything. He just refused to fly a flag. And if it's all about him being a mayor, why is he personally being fined?

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they weren't invoked here

Doesn't mean he's wrong

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3) this wasn't invoked here

Doesn't mean he's wrong
 

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4) like Doug Ford ?  He could do something about this if he wanted to.

You're right. We should be looking to elect more and more right-wing radical leaders because centrists and right of center people are simply not getting the job done.

What were you saying earlier about consequences of your actions?

Edited December 3, 2024 by CdnFox

[CdnFox]

Oooooooo -  reataliation from alberta  !

BREAKING: Another Alberta town votes to ban Pride and decorative crosswalks, flags - Athabasca, Barrhead & Westlock News

Town of Barrhead residents have voted in favour of enacting the Barrhead Neutral Space Bylaw by a vote of 653 to 492, with 1,145 ballots being counted.

The bylaw, will essentially prohibit "decorative crosswalks" on town roadways, restricting them to and banned flags other than the Canadian, provincial and Town of Barrhead flags from flying on municipally-owned facilities, property and flagpoles.

 

and this is what happens. People see their rights being attacked in one place, and there is retaliation elsewhere until it escalates into a full-blown war. Which is a war that the LGBTQRMOUSE mafia cannot win in the end. 

They push too far and then people push back 

Edited December 3, 2024 by CdnFox

[Zeitgeist]

29 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Say anything. He just refused to fly a flag. And if it's all about him being a mayor, why is he personally being fined?

Doesn't mean he's wrong

Doesn't mean he's wrong
 

You're right. We should be looking to elect more and more right-wing radical leaders because centrists and right of center people are simply not getting the job done.

What were you saying earlier about consequences of your actions?

This is why electorates are shifting right.  There’s a sense of powerlessness among the people to get sensible things done.  Governments have enabled radical dingbats to literally prevent people from saying what they think and voting in accordance with their beliefs.  Somehow taking a moral position someone doesn’t like is being labeled a hate crime.  Disagreement becomes criminalized. Opposition is unacceptable.

The radical left created an apparatus that overrides accountable, elected representatives.  It’s called the Human Rights Commission.  

Edited December 3, 2024 by Zeitgeist

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said:

This is why electorates are shifting right.  There’s a sense of powerlessness among the people to get sensible things done.  Governments have enabled radical dingbats to literally prevent people from saying what they think and voting in accordance with their beliefs.  Somehow taking a moral position someone doesn’t like is being labeled a hate crime.  Disagreement becomes criminalized.  Opposition is unacceptable.

The radical left created an apparatus that overrides accountable, elected representatives.  It’s called the Human Rights Commission.  

Sooner or later that will be blow back against the commissions as well. They're not even legal people and their decisions are based on their feelings not law. They're not even required to follow their own precedent. It's essentially a drum head court that has far too much power and zero accountability

[Zeitgeist]

4 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Sooner or later that will be blow back against the commissions as well. They're not even legal people and their decisions are based on their feelings not law. They're not even required to follow their own precedent. It's essentially a drum head court that has far too much power and zero accountability

I keep seeing more downsides to the Canadian system in its current form.  Public safety seems to be our last advantage over the US, and that’s deteriorating.  They earn more, have freer speech, and since the rise of MAID and wait times, even our healthcare seems to have become worse than theirs.  

Edited December 3, 2024 by Zeitgeist

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

I keep seeing more downsides to the Canadian system in its current form.  Public safety seems to be our last advantage over the US, and that’s deteriorating.  They earn more, have freer speech, and since the rise of MAID and wait times, even our healthcare seems to have become worse than theirs.  

It is the fundamental nature of all governments of any model that the government will continue to try and take more and more power over the people because they believe firmly that they know better than the people and if the people would just do as they're told everyone would be happier and better off. In Canada that creep involves not only federal overstepping into provincial areas but also things like the human rights commissions which are essentially rogue players inside the system.

The difference between us and Americans isn't the system as much as it is that they will step up and elect someone like trump and musk to push back against that kind of stupidity, whereas a significant percentage of our population (ontario...  STAAAAAAAARRREE)   Will continue to reward that kind of behavior

The truckers having the emergency act declared on them was one of the greatest travesties in canadian history since the internment of the Japanese. The government suspended personal rights and freedoms to suppress a political view it didn't agree with and to repress a peaceful demonstration that no court had ruled to be illegal. And yet a majority of the public supported it.

Until our people learn the benefits and the need for freedom this will continue.

[Zeitgeist]

5 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

It is the fundamental nature of all governments of any model that the government will continue to try and take more and more power over the people because they believe firmly that they know better than the people and if the people would just do as they're told everyone would be happier and better off. In Canada that creep involves not only federal overstepping into provincial areas but also things like the human rights commissions which are essentially rogue players inside the system.

The difference between us and Americans isn't the system as much as it is that they will step up and elect someone like trump and musk to push back against that kind of stupidity, whereas a significant percentage of our population (ontario...  STAAAAAAAARRREE)   Will continue to reward that kind of behavior

The truckers having the emergency act declared on them was one of the greatest travesties in canadian history since the internment of the Japanese. The government suspended personal rights and freedoms to suppress a political view it didn't agree with and to repress a peaceful demonstration that no court had ruled to be illegal. And yet a majority of the public supported it.

Until our people learn the benefits and the need for freedom this will continue.

Canada may be more peaceful than the US, but its citizens are less free and prosperous, currently at least. The question is, Will Canadians figure it out and demand better?  Maybe they’re ready.  Maybe they never will be.  

Edited December 3, 2024 by Zeitgeist

[Michael Hardner]

29 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

This is why electorates are shifting right.   

Maybe - but I think it would be better if everyone just ignored these cultural spats and focused on what's important.  

Doug Ford is right, right ?  I'll bet he does little to nothing, apart from maybe saying something.

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Maybe - but I think it would be better if everyone just ignored these cultural spats and focused on what's important.  

 

Not possible. The left continues to attack. They just find a council and an individual $15,000 for saying they didn't want to do something.

I'm afraid that these cultural spots have become what's important. The right certainly didn't want that to be the case, but here we are and now we have to deal with it