Trump suggests Canada become 51st state after Trudeau said tariff would kill economy: sources (NOT the beaverton)

[CdnFox]

Trump suggests Canada become 51st state after Trudeau said tariff would kill economy: sources | Fox News

President-elect Trump suggested to Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau last week that if a tariff for failing to address trade and immigration issues would kill the neighbor to the north’s economy, maybe it should become the 51st state, sources told Fox News.

Last Friday, Trudeau flew to Mar-a-Lago unannounced after Trump threatened to impose sweeping tariffs on Canadian products. Specifically, Trump is threatening to impose 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico over their failures to curb the flow of illegal immigrants and illicit drugs from those countries into the U.S.

Now, new details are beginning to emerge about the meeting between the two men, which Trump called "very productive."

 

LOL -  justin is out of the country for 5 minutes with Trump and he's already selling the country out to foreign buyers  

[gatomontes99]

Those 25% tariffs really hur the US, huh?

[DUI_Offender]

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said:

Those 25% tariffs really hur the US, huh?

It's actually genius on Justin's part, he can't tariff us if we're already part of the US can he! That Justin is always playing 3D chess

[West]

Canada has become a communist nation taking political hostages. The US was the same under Joe but Donnie now needs to implement sanctions so that Trudeau cleans up his human rights abuses 

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, West said:

Canada has become a communist nation taking political hostages. The US was the same under Joe but Donnie now needs to implement sanctions so that Trudeau cleans up his human rights abuses 

So you're begging for the US to interfere in Canadian domestic policy? You've gone off the rails asking for Hitler to invade.

[West]

6 hours ago, robosmith said:

So you're begging for the US to interfere in Canadian domestic policy? You've gone off the rails asking for Hitler to invade.

It's a humanitarian crisis 

[gatomontes99]

Any country with government run healthcare has eliminated the right to live and should be considered a major violators of human rights.

[Nationalist]

One in ten Canadians require food bank help this Christmas season. Food banks are closing because there's just not enough to go around. Indeed @West, this is a crisis. I generally will toss a can of beans into the food bank box at the grocery stores. But this year I feel inclined to donate a whole shopping spree. The situation is dire and it's self-imposed. We allowed this tragedy to happen by letting a gang of self-congratulating id1ots to utterly destroy our nation.

Get rid of Pixie-Dust and his clan of destructive twits.

Close the Gawd Damn border.

Deregulation of the fossil fuel, home building, farming and mining industries.

Do it now...before we sink so deep that becoming the 51st state actually makes sense.

[DUI_Offender]

8 hours ago, robosmith said:

So you're begging for the US to interfere in Canadian domestic policy? You've gone off the rails asking for Hitler to invade.

I've noticed that when you posted this, the MAGA loons tried to justify Canada joining the US, or American involvement into our political system, claiming "Canada is broken" or going on about our healthcare system. This is typical stance for enemy combatants to use, in pretext for invasion of weaker countries throughout history.

I suggest putting anyone who cheers for US intervention of Canada's internal affairs, be placed on "ignore." They are bad faith actors, that do not have the best interests of society in mind.

[Deluge]

13 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Trump suggests Canada become 51st state after Trudeau said tariff would kill economy: sources | Fox News

President-elect Trump suggested to Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau last week that if a tariff for failing to address trade and immigration issues would kill the neighbor to the north’s economy, maybe it should become the 51st state, sources told Fox News.

Last Friday, Trudeau flew to Mar-a-Lago unannounced after Trump threatened to impose sweeping tariffs on Canadian products. Specifically, Trump is threatening to impose 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico over their failures to curb the flow of illegal immigrants and illicit drugs from those countries into the U.S.

Now, new details are beginning to emerge about the meeting between the two men, which Trump called "very productive."

 

LOL -  justin is out of the country for 5 minutes with Trump and he's already selling the country out to foreign buyers  

Well, so much for New York's plan to break off and join Canada. lol

[Legato]

1 hour ago, DUI_Offender said:

I've noticed that when you posted this, the MAGA loons tried to justify Canada joining the US, or American involvement into our political system, claiming "Canada is broken" or going on about our healthcare system. This is typical stance for enemy combatants to use, in pretext for invasion of weaker countries throughout history.

I suggest putting anyone who cheers for US intervention of Canada's internal affairs, be placed on "ignore." They are bad faith actors, that do not have the best interests of society in mind.

Would it be ignorant to put ignorance on ignore or is that the reverse function. On second thoughts it would have to be the reverse, otherwise one could disappear up their own as shole.

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Any country with government run healthcare has eliminated the right to live and should be considered a major violators of human rights.

Well if you mean government Healthcare the way that we do it then sure. But there's a lot of government Healthcare Systems out there that incorporate private ownership and private insurance and are still primarily government running funded care and if you want to make other decisions and pay for it yourself that's an option.

We just do it absolutely the worst way possible. And the left has come to look at the way we do it as the sacred cow that must never be considered or disturbed or improved upon.

Most of Europe has a blend of public and private, but we absolutely hate the idea for some reason

[DUI_Offender]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

We just do it absolutely the worst way possible. And the left has come to look at the way we do it as the sacred cow that must never be considered or disturbed or improved upon.

 

 

The United States spends over twice the amount as Canada, per-capita, yet they still cannot provide health care to tens of millions of Americans.  It should also be noted that Canadians live an average of 4 years longer than Americans (82 vs 78 years). 

Needless to say, for all it's issues, our health care system is better and more cost effective than in the United States. Countries like Sweden, Germany, and France have better health care systems than North Americans do, yet they are more left of centre than we are.

Edited December 3, 2024 by DUI_Offender

[gatomontes99]

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Well if you mean government Healthcare the way that we do it then sure. But there's a lot of government Healthcare Systems out there that incorporate private ownership and private insurance and are still primarily government running funded care and if you want to make other decisions and pay for it yourself that's an option.

We just do it absolutely the worst way possible. And the left has come to look at the way we do it as the sacred cow that must never be considered or disturbed or improved upon.

Most of Europe has a blend of public and private, but we absolutely hate the idea for some reason

All government programs only ever grow. None are ever so successful that they disappear.

If you had the right to live, you would have the right to pursue health care when, where, how, what and why. If the government controls health care (like Canada, England, etc) you are subjected to the rules and regulations of the system so the when, where, how, what and why are all dictated (on some level) by the government. Imagine the only way to practice religion was at a government run religious center. Would you have the freedom of religion? No. So why would you have the freedom to live of the only option is the government?

Edited December 3, 2024 by gatomontes99

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, DUI_Offender said:

The United States spends over twice the amount as Canada, per-capita, yet they still cannot provide health care to tens of millions of Americans.  It should also be noted that Canadians live an average of 4 years longer than Americans (82 vs 78 years). 

 

Not true kiddo. I think we've been through this before haven't we? In fact something like 97 or 98% of Americans have health coverage?  

But the big thing is they get far superior health coverage when they get it. Wait times are a fraction of what they are in Canada. You have a lot more choice in medial treatment centers.  There are a lot MORE medical treatment centers. You can get a family doctor much much easier.  

Here's from 2019 and it's gotten much worse in canada since then.

America Outperforms Canada in Surgery Wait Times—And It's Not Even Close

People are expected to live with pain much longer in Canada than in the states. Elective surgeries such as hip and knee replacements are VERY slow

Why do Canadians wait so long for non-urgent surgeries? | CMA

In a comparison of 10 peer countries, Canada reported the largest percentage of people waiting more than a year for elective surgery (20%), followed by the United Kingdom (19%) and Australia (12%). 

So they have  vastly better access to medicine. 

 

You talk about a small percentage of Americans that don't have access to health care but the reality is there are even more Canadians who don't have that access due to excessive wait times. 

Number of Canadians who died while waiting for medical procedures reaches five-year high - The Hub

Many people don't get the health care they need because they can't get a family doctor. Medical clinics are now so overloaded in many provinces that you just simply can't get anyone to give you decent care unless you go to an emergency room and you may wait 18 to 20 hours to get help.

 

You tend to get what you pay for. The Americans pay for more and they get more. 

[DUI_Offender]

13 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

But the big thing is they get far superior health coverage when they get it.

Tell that to the tens of millions in America who lose their life savings, when their insurance only provides coverage up to a certain amount.  Let's face it, the richest Americans have access to the best health care in America. Working class or poor people do not. 

13 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Wait times are a fraction of what they are in Canada. You have a lot more choice in medial treatment centers.  There are a lot MORE medical treatment centers. You can get a family doctor much much easier.  

Here's from 2019 and it's gotten much worse in canada since then.

America Outperforms Canada in Surgery Wait Times—And It's Not Even Close

People are expected to live with pain much longer in Canada than in the states. Elective surgeries such as hip and knee replacements are VERY slow

Why do Canadians wait so long for non-urgent surgeries? | CMA

In a comparison of 10 peer countries, Canada reported the largest percentage of people waiting more than a year for elective surgery (20%), followed by the United Kingdom (19%) and Australia (12%). 

So they have  vastly better access to medicine. 

That sure explains why Canadians outlive Americans by 4 years, and the gap has only increased in the last decade. 

Wait times....wait times....yawn*

13 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You tend to get what you pay for. The Americans pay for more and they get more. 

What do you think about actual ranking of health care, RussianFox?

Of the 11 countries on the chart, America rates last in:

-overall care

-access to care

-affordability

-efficiency

-equity

-health care outcomes

 

Once again, the United States spends over twice the amount on health care, per capita than Canadians do, and we still outlive them by four years, and all you can up with is wait times? Norway, Germany, France, and Sweden are all ahead of both countries, and have Governments that are more to the left than us. However, that would ruin your narrative, that "lefties ruin the healthcare system."

Edited December 3, 2024 by DUI_Offender

[CdnFox]

5 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Tell that to the tens of millions in America who lose their life savings, when their insurance only provides coverage up to a certain amount. 

Would you rather I told it to the tens of thousands of Canadians who die every year waiting for care? Or the hundreds of thousands that have to wait in pain and suffering for 10 or 20 hours or more in emergency rooms?

How about we talk to all of the people who had relatives die in British Columbia because of emergency room shutdowns?

Did you want to have a chat with all of the older people who live with pain everyday and lose the last years of their life to suffering because of lack of availability of service?

You seem strangely content and sanguine about their suffering.

You are a unbelievable hypocrite

An outliving Americans has little to do with their health care. It's a lifestyle problem for them. They are on average vastly more obese for example and they pay a price for that

You have to be pretty stupid not to realize there's more to it than just how much it costs

 

And the fact that you would call me Russian Fox proves that you know you're wrong and are just lashing out. What is this, like the 10th time you've said something stupid and I've proven you wrong and now you're just buthurt about it.

The Americans get what they pay for. Our people suffer and die far more due to the restrictions and availability of healthcare than their people do. But you don't care about suffering and death if it means interfering with your echo chamber i guess

[West]

9 hours ago, Nationalist said:

One in ten Canadians require food bank help this Christmas season. Food banks are closing because there's just not enough to go around. Indeed @West, this is a crisis. I generally will toss a can of beans into the food bank box at the grocery stores. But this year I feel inclined to donate a whole shopping spree. The situation is dire and it's self-imposed. We allowed this tragedy to happen by letting a gang of self-congratulating id1ots to utterly destroy our nation.

Get rid of Pixie-Dust and his clan of destructive twits.

Close the Gawd Damn border.

Deregulation of the fossil fuel, home building, farming and mining industries.

Do it now...before we sink so deep that becoming the 51st state actually makes sense.

They need to freeze and confiscate the assets of Trudeau, Vladimir Zelynsky, Hunter Biden, and the like. Probably get about a trillion in embezzled cash from just a few people. 

[gatomontes99]

Y'all know Trump was just trolling Trideaux? Right?

[Nationalist]

3 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Y'all know Trump was just trolling Trideaux? Right?

No.

[gatomontes99]

41 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

No.

Yeah. He was trolling him because he was bìtching about the tariffs.

[Nationalist]

1 minute ago, gatomontes99 said:

Yeah. He was trolling him because he was bìtching about the tariffs.

Pixie-Dust has just enacted stricter border policies.

https://globalnews.ca/news/9577097/safe-third-country-agreement-roxham-road-trudeau-biden/

Odd that eh?

[West]

2 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

Tell that to the tens of millions in America who lose their life savings, when their insurance only provides coverage up to a certain amount.  Let's face it, the richest Americans have access to the best health care in America. Working class or poor people do not. 

That sure explains why Canadians outlive Americans by 4 years, and the gap has only increased in the last decade. 

Wait times....wait times....yawn*

What do you think about actual ranking of health care, RussianFox?

Of the 11 countries on the chart, America rates last in:

-overall care

-access to care

-affordability

-efficiency

-equity

-health care outcomes

 

Once again, the United States spends over twice the amount on health care, per capita than Canadians do, and we still outlive them by four years, and all you can up with is wait times? Norway, Germany, France, and Sweden are all ahead of both countries, and have Governments that are more to the left than us. However, that would ruin your narrative, that "lefties ruin the healthcare system."

I call that chart the commie scores. It's basically ranking countries over how much control the govt has over their affairs

Edited December 4, 2024 by West

[DUI_Offender]

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

 

An outliving Americans has little to do with their health care.

 

It has a lot to do with our healthcare system being superior to theirs, RussianFox. 

 

 

Edited December 4, 2024 by DUI_Offender