blackbird Posted November 14, 2024 Report Posted November 14, 2024 This is the first I have heard of this. Has Trudeau really spent 9 million dollars of taxpayer money to subsidize a cricket factory in Canada? Appears to be true. Is this part of Trudeau's war on climate change? By changing Canadian diets does he hope to reduce fossil fuel emissions? I wonder if this comes from the World Economic Forum (WEF). "FIRST READING: Trudeau’s $9 million bet on edible crickets runs into trouble TOP STORY Just two years after the Trudeau government put up nearly $9 million to help build the world’s largest edible cricket factory, the facility is dramatically cutting staff and production in what they say is an extended retooling. Aspire Food Group, which cut the ribbon last year on a 150,000-square-foot edible cricket factory in London, Ont., has just laid off two thirds of its workforce and significantly cut back shifts, saying they need to make “some improvements to its manufacturing system.” Speaking to the trade publication AgFunderNews, Aspire CEO David Rosenberg said the company “will be running the production line four times a week instead of two shifts a day every day. We’re 150 people down to 50 and we plan on hiring back up in July.” This is despite very generous grants from the Trudeau government. In June 2022, Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada announced a grant of “up to $8.5 million” to build a “commercial facility to produce cricket protein.” What resulted was a factory billed by Aspire as the “world’s largest cricket production facility.” As per a CBC profile published at its grand opening, the factory was to house four billion crickets at any one time, and churn out 13 million kilograms of edible crickets each year. Aspire’s signature pitch – and one of the main reasons they attracted federal government attention – is that crickets have a lower environmental footprint than meat or dairy. The 2022 Government of Canada statement announcing the $8.5 million grant mentioned this several times. The subsidy would help Aspire produce “high volumes of nutritious food with a low environmental footprint” and “meet global demand for food by using less water, energy and space and emitting significantly less greenhouse gas emissions.” FIRST READING: Trudeau’s $9 million bet on edible crickets runs into trouble If this doesn't prove the insanity of this government, nothing will. Quote
ExFlyer Posted November 14, 2024 Report Posted November 14, 2024 Exactly what does cricket farming have to do with climate change? Crickets are a food source eaten world wide https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7835793/ https://www.researchgate.net/figure/A-world-map-showing-countries-where-crickets-are-consumed-as-food-USA-United-State-of_fig1_347522792 You need to get out of your basement LOL 1 Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
Michael Hardner Posted November 14, 2024 Report Posted November 14, 2024 44 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Exactly what does cricket farming have to do with climate change? It's about exploiting the weirdness of an idea for political points. Some people want to eat crickets, so... 1 Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
ExFlyer Posted November 14, 2024 Report Posted November 14, 2024 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: It's about exploiting the weirdness of an idea for political points. Some people want to eat crickets, so... The bible thumper just needs to get with it LOL "Worldwide, crickets are the fourth most popular edible insect, behind beetles, caterpillars and flying insects like bees and wasps. “Crickets are very high in protein per volume, and science is finding that they’re easier to farm than animals are,” Czerwony says, “so more and more, we’re seeing crickets processed into protein powders.”" "In North America, acheta powder, aka cricket powder, is becoming more and more popular among people who want to experiment with more environmentally friendly ways to get enough protein. Here’s what you need to know about eating crickets." 1 Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
eyeball Posted November 14, 2024 Report Posted November 14, 2024 It's certainly more woke than Soylent Green. 2 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted November 14, 2024 Report Posted November 14, 2024 3 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Exactly what does cricket farming have to do with climate change? Crickets are a food source eaten world wide https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7835793/ https://www.researchgate.net/figure/A-world-map-showing-countries-where-crickets-are-consumed-as-food-USA-United-State-of_fig1_347522792 You need to get out of your basement LOL Dude, seriously look stuff up first. Cricket farming has always been portrayed as being an environmentally friendly protein option compared to farming cattle or fish farms and the like Crickets Can Help Us Curb Global Warming and Enhance Food Security: Here’s How | Earth.Org Cattle farming obviously requires a great deal of mechanical devices and fuel expenditure as well as energy. Crickets require far less 1 Quote
ExFlyer Posted November 14, 2024 Report Posted November 14, 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, CdnFox said: Dude, seriously look stuff up first. Cricket farming has always been portrayed as being an environmentally friendly protein option compared to farming cattle or fish farms and the like What is wrong with you??? I did look it up and posted the info. Dude....maybe the one looking stuff up should be you. LOL Your obsessive need to argue and disagree is so old. The OP is trying to make an asinine political issue of crickets. Crickets have been eaten for thousands of years....long before the so called "climate change". thing. When did people start eating crickets? "Cave paintings in Altamira, north Spain, which have been dated from about 30,000 to 9,000 BC, depict the collection of edible insects and wild bee nests, suggesting a possibly entomophagous society." "Consumption of insects in China and Western countries. The tradition of eating insects in China dates back more than 3000 years and has outlasted various dynasties (Chen et al., 2009, Zhi‐Yi, 1997)." For the OP.... even the bible says oyu can eat crickets "The insects you are permitted to eat include all kinds of locusts, bald locusts, crickets, and grasshoppers..All other winged insects that walk along the ground are detestable to you." Edited November 14, 2024 by ExFlyer Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
Army Guy Posted November 14, 2024 Report Posted November 14, 2024 Regardless of what others eat, i don't think here in Canada and i may be wrong.... but i have not seen a restaurant, food cart that sells those yummy crickets we all have been talking about, nor are they listed as the top ten thing to eat here in Canada........ I think the article is pointing out this is just another example of our government foolish spending opportunities... first investing in farming insects here in Canada, where fast food rules our diets...it's stupid...second did anyone even look at the business case or who was selling the idea...was it another minister in the liberal government , hey i had to ask not like it is not common practice with the today's liberals... Anyways good luck trying to sell that idea to Canadians as a food source....when i can get a burger with in a 10 minute drive and i live in the country....one without any insects that i know of... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Legato Posted November 14, 2024 Report Posted November 14, 2024 9 million dollars to keep bugs off the windscreen. You would probably find them as a hearty addition to a Kamala word salad. Quote
ExFlyer Posted November 14, 2024 Report Posted November 14, 2024 55 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Regardless of what others eat, i don't think here in Canada and i may be wrong.... but i have not seen a restaurant, food cart that sells those yummy crickets we all have been talking about, nor are they listed as the top ten thing to eat here in Canada........ I think the article is pointing out this is just another example of our government foolish spending opportunities... first investing in farming insects here in Canada, where fast food rules our diets...it's stupid...second did anyone even look at the business case or who was selling the idea...was it another minister in the liberal government , hey i had to ask not like it is not common practice with the today's liberals... Anyways good luck trying to sell that idea to Canadians as a food source....when i can get a burger with in a 10 minute drive and i live in the country....one without any insects that i know of... I think the government investment is to provide jobs and is for the export market. The government supports many businesses for job reasons and for export purposes. I do not think that the product is aimed at Canadians (although there are some from different cutures that would buy them) Not defending any wasteful government , just saying governments, be they federal, provincial or municipal, all fund entrepreneurial efforts to provide jobs. Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
CdnFox Posted November 14, 2024 Report Posted November 14, 2024 2 hours ago, ExFlyer said: What is wrong with you??? I did look it up and posted the info. Dude....maybe the one looking stuff up should be you. LOL Your obsessive need to argue and disagree is so old. The OP is trying to make an asinine political issue of crickets. Crickets have been eaten for thousands of years....long before the so called "climate change". thing. When did people start eating crickets? "Cave paintings in Altamira, north Spain, which have been dated from about 30,000 to 9,000 BC, depict the collection of edible insects and wild bee nests, suggesting a possibly entomophagous society." "Consumption of insects in China and Western countries. The tradition of eating insects in China dates back more than 3000 years and has outlasted various dynasties (Chen et al., 2009, Zhi‐Yi, 1997)." For the OP.... even the bible says oyu can eat crickets "The insects you are permitted to eat include all kinds of locusts, bald locusts, crickets, and grasshoppers..All other winged insects that walk along the ground are detestable to you." Back to your lying again i see. You posted no such information at all. You posted information about how other people eat them. what YOU said was: "Exactly what does cricket farming have to do with climate change?" to which i posted a reply showing WHAT CRICKETS HAVE to DO WITH CLIMATE CHANGE!!! Not ONE of your links was about climate change. Holy shit are you stupid sometimes. When I said you should read, I actually meant that you should read not just randomly linked to stuff that has nothing to do with the question you asked or the answer I gave. Then you double down on your stupid. Go change your drool bib you dolt Quote
herbie Posted November 15, 2024 Report Posted November 15, 2024 Oooh the govt spent 25¢ of "my money" to study food production and a possible new industry.... how very awful. And someone just learning what other people knew for thousands of years thinks that's just too woke, more fool them. and it's all Trudeau's fault like the phases of the moon, too! Go eat a hot dog with Cheez Whiz instead. 1 Quote
ExFlyer Posted November 15, 2024 Report Posted November 15, 2024 (edited) 15 hours ago, CdnFox said: Back to your lying again i see. Holy shit are you stupid sometimes. ..... ... you double down on your stupid. Go change your drool bib you dolt Your obsession with arguing and disagreement is abysmal. LOL Oh, and back to your old ways of name calling too LOL. It is jusy you, being your obnoxious self LOL You are falling into that loser bucket again Ha Ha Ha. Edited November 15, 2024 by ExFlyer Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
Nefarious Banana Posted November 15, 2024 Report Posted November 15, 2024 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: Your obsession with arguing and disagreement is abysmal. LOL Oh, and back to your old ways of name calling too LOL You are fallihg into that loser bucket again Ha Ha Ha. ExcessiveFlatulence . . . yet again. Quote
Legato Posted November 15, 2024 Report Posted November 15, 2024 16 hours ago, herbie said: Oooh the govt spent 25¢ of "my money" to study food production and a possible new industry.... how very awful. And someone just learning what other people knew for thousands of years thinks that's just too woke, more fool them. and it's all Trudeau's fault like the phases of the moon, too! Go eat a hot dog with Cheez Whiz instead. Do you put ketchup on your WEF? Quote
CdnFox Posted November 15, 2024 Report Posted November 15, 2024 4 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Your obsession with arguing and disagreement is abysmal. LOL Oh look - you're wrong and once again you want it to be my fault Kid - don't lie or make shit up and i won't have the opportunity to point it out, and we'll both be happier, 4 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Oh, and back to your old ways of name calling too LOL. He says after name calling Quote You are falling into that loser bucket again Ha Ha Ha. This is what you usually say when you're wrong but you can't man up and admit it. The Ha Ha Ha Is always a dead giveaway that you're on the verge of yet another mental meltdown and considering 10 pages of ass porn and memes or the like because somehow you think THAT makes you look good. You asked what grasshoppers had to do with global warming. I answered with a link. Now you're losing your shit and claiming that somehow you mentioned that before when you very clearly didn't at all and the fact that you didn't is because I argue when all I did was literally answer your question. Get yourself Together kid Quote
herbie Posted November 15, 2024 Report Posted November 15, 2024 4 hours ago, Legato said: Do you put ketchup on your WEF? OMG it's another conspiracy! The People's Democratic Bovine Society is working with Trudeau to force you to eat grasshoppers! Far more likely Trump's appointee to head the FDA will allow McDonalds to use 85% bugs and still call it pure beef and you'll gobble it up. Probably tastier than the sawdust they use now. Quote
Legato Posted November 15, 2024 Report Posted November 15, 2024 1 hour ago, herbie said: OMG it's another conspiracy! The People's Democratic Bovine Society is working with Trudeau to force you to eat grasshoppers! Far more likely Trump's appointee to head the FDA will allow McDonalds to use 85% bugs and still call it pure beef and you'll gobble it up. Probably tastier than the sawdust they use now. Do you put ketchup on your WEF? Quote
paradox34 Posted November 15, 2024 Report Posted November 15, 2024 On 11/14/2024 at 10:40 AM, Michael Hardner said: It's about exploiting the weirdness of an idea for political points. Some people want to eat crickets, so... Haven't you heard? Cows produce too much methane. Apparently 900 million cattle produce more methane than 8 billion people. Go figure ? Intellectually stunted! Quote
Michael Hardner Posted November 15, 2024 Report Posted November 15, 2024 23 minutes ago, paradox34 said: Haven't you heard? Cows produce too much methane. Apparently 900 million cattle produce more methane than 8 billion people. Go figure ? Intellectually stunted! Old news. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Army Guy Posted November 16, 2024 Report Posted November 16, 2024 On 11/14/2024 at 7:06 PM, ExFlyer said: I think the government investment is to provide jobs and is for the export market. The government supports many businesses for job reasons and for export purposes. I do not think that the product is aimed at Canadians (although there are some from different cutures that would buy them) Not defending any wasteful government , just saying governments, be they federal, provincial or municipal, all fund entrepreneurial efforts to provide jobs. I agree if the investments make sense, and if the jobs are worth the investment...in this case i think it is already bust... ...I would have thought a good business case would be to open it closer to where the market is...or better yet look at business that will not only employ Canadians but also attend to a need or a want in Canada.... The liberals don't really have a good record of wise business investments, other than providing tax payers money for their own companies or friends then they rock that sh!t. Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted November 16, 2024 Report Posted November 16, 2024 23 hours ago, herbie said: Oooh the govt spent 25¢ of "my money" to study food production and a possible new industry.... how very awful. And someone just learning what other people knew for thousands of years thinks that's just too woke, more fool them. and it's all Trudeau's fault like the phases of the moon, too! Go eat a hot dog with Cheez Whiz instead. It's a stupid idea, and stupid investment this is not the only stupid investment they have made....along the idea of sell ice to the north....in winter....AAAHHH it's only 25 cents...it's 9 million dollars....that could have gone to health care, infra structure....a new apartment for some diplomat... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
ExFlyer Posted November 16, 2024 Report Posted November 16, 2024 14 hours ago, Army Guy said: I agree if the investments make sense, and if the jobs are worth the investment...in this case i think it is already bust... ...I would have thought a good business case would be to open it closer to where the market is...or better yet look at business that will not only employ Canadians but also attend to a need or a want in Canada.... The liberals don't really have a good record of wise business investments, other than providing tax payers money for their own companies or friends then they rock that sh!t. I think the up front cost is higher than the operators could borrow moey to start so government steps in. be it grants, loans Business development bank loans or some other government program. No government of any political party ever has good records financing private enterprise. It is more often for local MP's to show their constituents they are doing something LOL Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
herbie Posted November 16, 2024 Report Posted November 16, 2024 21 hours ago, Army Guy said: .it's 9 million dollars.... Almost a big enough amount to make me consider buying a lottery ticket for. It's not 1967 anymore Dr Evil.... Quote
Army Guy Posted November 17, 2024 Report Posted November 17, 2024 3 hours ago, herbie said: Almost a big enough amount to make me consider buying a lottery ticket for. It's not 1967 anymore Dr Evil.... See thats why this country has doubled it debt load in the last 8 years....this is the attitude most leftist have ....lets just print some more....it's only paper or numbers in a leger...Someone has to pray this money back, you, me your grandkids, their grandkids... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
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