West Posted October 28 Report Posted October 28 It appears Donnie is favored to win with about 312 electoral college votes. Never underestimate the steal. Democrats have already shown desperation with their two assassination attempts and now their nonsense about Nazis and J6. They've shown they don't have a conscience and power is their god It's not over til it's over. 2 Quote
Hodad Posted October 28 Report Posted October 28 Honestly, you people are gaslighting the shit out of yourselves, convincing yourselves that Trump is ahead, favored to win and Harris is collapsing and losing badly. Sure. that COULD happen. Or it's equally likely that Harris will win, because the polls still show a virtual tie. And if that equally likely outcome comes to pass and Harris wins, you fools will lose your shit crying foul because Trump was supposed to win by a landslide so there must be shenanigans (for which there will be no evidence). Just stop. You're looking at a map on the loosest polling aggregator, and you've selected an option to view an electoral map with "no-toss ups." As in, every state in their polling aggregate that shows ANY numerical advantage for a candidate, no matter how tiny, will be "projected" to that candidate. That's an incredibly stupid way to project an electoral outcome is determined by battleground states that are statistical ties. You are literally fooling yourselves. Be smarter. 1 Quote
West Posted October 28 Author Report Posted October 28 2 minutes ago, Hodad said: Honestly, you people are gaslighting the shit out of yourselves, convincing yourselves that Trump is ahead, favored to win and Harris is collapsing and losing badly. Sure. that COULD happen. Or it's equally likely that Harris will win, because the polls still show a virtual tie. And if that equally likely outcome comes to pass and Harris wins, you fools will lose your shit crying foul because Trump was supposed to win by a landslide so there must be shenanigans (for which there will be no evidence). Just stop. You're looking at a map on the loosest polling aggregator, and you've selected an option to view an electoral map with "no-toss ups." As in, every state in their polling aggregate that shows ANY numerical advantage for a candidate, no matter how tiny, will be "projected" to that candidate. That's an incredibly stupid way to project an electoral outcome is determined by battleground states that are statistical ties. You are literally fooling yourselves. Be smarter. This is RealClearPolitics saying this, not me Quote
Hodad Posted October 28 Report Posted October 28 For example. Look at a realistic polling map. The view at 270toWin is a good example. https://www.270towin.com/ The "locks" and the likely wins for each party add up to be neck-and neck, with 93 toss-up votes up for grabs. Based on polling, it's a coin toss at this point. 2 minutes ago, West said: This is RealClearPolitics saying this, not me No, YOU are the one who selected the "no toss ups" view. As if there aren't toss up states. Dumb. 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted October 28 Report Posted October 28 (edited) And down the home stretch, Trump packs 'em in at MSG...AND Kamala calls him NAZI. Every time she opens her mouth, all people hear is Liar and B1TCH! Edited October 28 by Nationalist 1 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Hodad Posted October 28 Report Posted October 28 1 minute ago, Nationalist said: And down the home stretch, Trump packs 'em in at MSG...AND Kamala calls him NAZI. Every time she opens her mouth, all people raging misogynists hear is Liar and B1TCH! FTFY 1 Quote
West Posted October 28 Author Report Posted October 28 28 minutes ago, Hodad said: For example. Look at a realistic polling map. The view at 270toWin is a good example. https://www.270towin.com/ The "locks" and the likely wins for each party add up to be neck-and neck, with 93 toss-up votes up for grabs. Based on polling, it's a coin toss at this point. No, YOU are the one who selected the "no toss ups" view. As if there aren't toss up states. Dumb. I don't know why you are getting angry at me for showing you the polling data. Quote
Nationalist Posted October 28 Report Posted October 28 9 minutes ago, Hodad said: FTFY Lol...Libbies. You flakes just can't resist cheating can ya. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Deluge Posted October 28 Report Posted October 28 35 minutes ago, Hodad said: Honestly, you people are gaslighting the shit out of yourselves, convincing yourselves that Trump is ahead, favored to win and Harris is collapsing and losing badly. Sure. that COULD happen. Or it's equally likely that Harris will win, because the polls still show a virtual tie. And if that equally likely outcome comes to pass and Harris wins, you fools will lose your shit crying foul because Trump was supposed to win by a landslide so there must be shenanigans (for which there will be no evidence). Just stop. You're looking at a map on the loosest polling aggregator, and you've selected an option to view an electoral map with "no-toss ups." As in, every state in their polling aggregate that shows ANY numerical advantage for a candidate, no matter how tiny, will be "projected" to that candidate. That's an incredibly stupid way to project an electoral outcome is determined by battleground states that are statistical ties. You are literally fooling yourselves. Be smarter. Do I detect a sense of hysteria in your post? Be cool, Hodad, have more confidence in your candidate. Quote
impartialobserver Posted October 28 Report Posted October 28 "Cheating"... hence why I have such a deep lack of respect for politicos. Back to the topic, if he wins well then life goes on. If he does not then we need to invest in Kleenex and Depends. Either way... life will carry on. Quote
CdnFox Posted October 28 Report Posted October 28 54 minutes ago, Hodad said: Honestly, you people are gaslighting the shit out of yourselves, convincing yourselves that Trump is ahead, favored to win and Harris is collapsing and losing badly. Sure. that COULD happen. Or it's equally likely that Harris will win, because the polls still show a virtual tie. And if that equally likely outcome comes to pass and Harris wins, you fools will lose your shit crying foul because Trump was supposed to win by a landslide so there must be shenanigans (for which there will be no evidence). Just stop. You're looking at a map on the loosest polling aggregator, and you've selected an option to view an electoral map with "no-toss ups." As in, every state in their polling aggregate that shows ANY numerical advantage for a candidate, no matter how tiny, will be "projected" to that candidate. That's an incredibly stupid way to project an electoral outcome is determined by battleground states that are statistical ties. You are literally fooling yourselves. Be smarter. There are a number of factors that show trump has the advantage. And in fact Vegas which makes it their job to be able to guess things accurately has trump at 60% It would be more or less reasonable to say trump is winning. But it's not decisive by any stretch of the imagination One thing that appears to be true is trump seems to have momentum. And momentum is absolutely critical going into election day. The problem as we have discussed many times is that if there is election fraud it will be very difficult to detect, and in this particular race the numbers are going to be close enough to reasonably small amount of fraud could very well make a significant difference. So with trump demonstrably in the lead by a nose, if he loses you can be sure that every republican will be certain it's because harris cheated even tho that is not necessarily the case at all. The US has to change it's voting systems. It HAS to be clear that cheating is very hard. Quote
Hodad Posted October 28 Report Posted October 28 1 hour ago, West said: I don't know why you are getting angry at me for showing you the polling data. I'm not getting angry at you. I'm trying (apparently unsuccessfully) to educate you. If you want to filter the facts to CREATE a view that you think is favorable to the outcomes you want, that's your prerogative. But what you've created is very improbable. Don't whine about "cheating" when it doesn't come to pass. 1 Quote
West Posted October 28 Author Report Posted October 28 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Hodad said: I'm not getting angry at you. I'm trying (apparently unsuccessfully) to educate you. If you want to filter the facts to CREATE a view that you think is favorable to the outcomes you want, that's your prerogative. But what you've created is very improbable. Don't whine about "cheating" when it doesn't come to pass. Educate me on what? As of right now he's up about 1%-3% in most swing states with 7 days to go. Edited October 28 by West Quote
Hodad Posted October 28 Report Posted October 28 4 minutes ago, West said: Educate me on what? As of right now he's up about 1%-3% in most swing states with 7 days to go. 🙄I can't say it any clearer or slower. Choosing the "no toss ups" view as a projected outcome is very stupid. Those states are toss ups for a reason. 1 Quote
robosmith Posted October 28 Report Posted October 28 4 hours ago, West said: It appears Donnie is favored to win with about 312 electoral college votes. Never underestimate the steal. Democrats have already shown desperation with their two assassination attempts and now their nonsense about Nazis and J6. They've shown they don't have a conscience and power is their god It's not over til it's over. Thanks for proving my previous thread about you right wingers starting threads with LIES. Quote
robosmith Posted October 28 Report Posted October 28 2 hours ago, Nationalist said: And down the home stretch, Trump packs 'em in at MSG...AND Kamala calls him NAZI. You can't even understand PICTURES of EMPTY SEATS. Duh 2 hours ago, Nationalist said: Every time she opens her mouth, all people hear is Liar and B1TCH! You obviously have NOT SEEN tapes of ANY of her RALLIES. Does FOS LIES show the tapes with their OWN SOUNDTRACK? LMAO 2 hours ago, West said: I don't know why you are getting angry at me for showing you the polling data. It was explained to you how you fcked up the results. Not surprised you didn't understand. 2 hours ago, Nationalist said: Lol...Libbies. You flakes just can't resist cheating can ya. You're the one continually DEFENDING CHEATING by the MAGA CULT. Quote
robosmith Posted October 28 Report Posted October 28 2 hours ago, impartialobserver said: "Cheating"... hence why I have such a deep lack of respect for politicos. Back to the topic, if he wins well then life goes on. If he does not then we need to invest in Kleenex and Depends. Either way... life will carry on. Not if he tries to destroy democracy like his HERO HITLER. 14 minutes ago, West said: Educate me on what? As of right now he's up about 1%-3% in most swing states with 7 days to go. Do you not understand that 1-3% is within the MARGIN OF ERROR? Or even know what that means? Maybe just PLAYING DUMB. 🤮 Quote
West Posted October 28 Author Report Posted October 28 Betting odds. Only tossup appears to be Michigan. The rest are solid red or likely red Quote
Hodad Posted October 28 Report Posted October 28 4 minutes ago, West said: Betting odds. Only tossup appears to be Michigan. The rest are solid red or likely red Yep, the people on Peter Thiel's futures platform are putting money on J.D. Vance. Go figure. It's liiiiiike polling, if you stripped out all of the science of polling. 1 Quote
West Posted October 28 Author Report Posted October 28 26 minutes ago, Hodad said: Yep, the people on Peter Thiel's futures platform are putting money on J.D. Vance. Go figure. It's liiiiiike polling, if you stripped out all of the science of polling. RCP has similar odds.. 1 hour ago, robosmith said: You can't even understand PICTURES of EMPTY SEATS. Duh You obviously have NOT SEEN tapes of ANY of her RALLIES. Does FOS LIES show the tapes with their OWN SOUNDTRACK? LMAO It was explained to you how you fcked up the results. Not surprised you didn't understand. You're the one continually DEFENDING CHEATING by the MAGA CULT. It sounds like you are lashing out at somebody just giving you the facts as they are right now. Quote
West Posted October 28 Author Report Posted October 28 1 hour ago, robosmith said: Thanks for proving my previous thread about you right wingers starting threads with LIES. How so? I said Trump at this point in time is favored to win over 300 in the electoral college. This is proven as fact by the map.. I didn't say he would win that many, just that he's favored..which is now a fact. So you lied about me lying just like leftists always lie about other people lying. No surprises. Quote
Nationalist Posted October 28 Report Posted October 28 3 hours ago, CdnFox said: The US has to change it's voting systems. It HAS to be clear that cheating is very hard. It has to be clear that the punishment is swift and harsh. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
CdnFox Posted October 28 Report Posted October 28 Thing is After a month of slow descent for harris the pool stabilized in the swing states for the last 3 days or so. I would guess people are making up their final decisions and we should see the polling start to break one way or the other Usually about 4 days before an election. It really is quite close. I'm guessing there will be at least some recounts in some places no matter who wins. 4 minutes ago, Nationalist said: It has to be clear that the punishment is swift and harsh. If they catch them, sure but right now there's a lot of ways to cheat where it is unreasonable to believe that somebody would be caught. They are more likely to get away with it undetected So how can you have faith in the Electoral results if you know someone can cheat and get away with it? You have to make it hard to cheat so that at least people can say even if there's no evidence of cheating they feel there would be if there was any kind of significant cheating. And then yes, beat the crap out of anybody who actually is caught 1 Quote
West Posted October 28 Author Report Posted October 28 8 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Thing is After a month of slow descent for harris the pool stabilized in the swing states for the last 3 days or so. I would guess people are making up their final decisions and we should see the polling start to break one way or the other Usually about 4 days before an election. It really is quite close. I'm guessing there will be at least some recounts in some places no matter who wins. If they catch them, sure but right now there's a lot of ways to cheat where it is unreasonable to believe that somebody would be caught. They are more likely to get away with it undetected So how can you have faith in the Electoral results if you know someone can cheat and get away with it? You have to make it hard to cheat so that at least people can say even if there's no evidence of cheating they feel there would be if there was any kind of significant cheating. And then yes, beat the crap out of anybody who actually is caught All about turnout. Right now the Trump campaign seems to have quite a bit of enthusiasm which usually translates into getting to the polls. Not sure how you can be excited to vote for communism on the other side but I guess some folks are weird like that. Quote
CdnFox Posted October 28 Report Posted October 28 1 minute ago, West said: All about turnout. Right now the Trump campaign seems to have quite a bit of enthusiasm which usually translates into getting to the polls. Not sure how you can be excited to vote for communism on the other side but I guess some folks are weird like that. Agreed. This may very well turn out to be a turnout election. Whichever party gets out more of its voters, dead or alive, will probably take it. Historically the democrat get out the vote machine is better but as you say I think a lot of people are motivated for trump this time. Quote
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