Are you a man or a woman?

[Deluge]

10 minutes ago, Rebound said:

1. Why do you care? 

2. I don’t care that you have an itty-bitty dick.  Why are you so obsessed with other men’s penises?  Maybe a tranny can theirs off and donate it to you so you can stop being so jealous of the rest of us.  

1. Because trannies are trying to shoehorn their agenda into the mainstream, and that's not acceptable. 

2. I don't care that you male vaginas want to mainstream. Keep your agendas to yourselves, and there won't be any problems.  

 

Edited October 28, 2024 by Deluge

[Hodad]

19 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

Wanna bet. I know a person in Calgary who spent $120,000 on her surgery. You would never know she was born a male.

That's called the "Platinum Package."

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Rebound said:

Why do you care? 
I don’t care that you have an itty-bitty dick.  Why are you so obsessed with other men’s penises?  Maybe a tranny can theirs off and donate it to you so you can stop being so jealous of the rest of us.  

and again yet another lefty having weird sexual fantasies when they begin to lose an argument. At least you guys are consistent.

Unfortunately we're forced to think about other men's penises these days. The men who are demanding to be called women insist that we think about it. They want their own bathrooms. They want to compete in women's sports, they want laws to compel speech, they demand that Cartoon books for children showing homosexual sex acts explicitly be available in our schools, and they want to indoctrinate children.

They demand to be front and center constantly. And if they're not allowed to wear gigantic massively oversized breasts in class then their rights are being violated. 

If your Child suggests that there's only two genders then they very well could be expelled from school. 

 

We don't want to care. If they would go away and live their lives in peace and happiness we wouldn't care. We care right now like the Israelis care about Gaza after October 7th. It's not like we have a choice.

[Queenmandy85]

On 10/27/2024 at 2:18 PM, Fluffypants said:

They are wearing a permanent costume that you destroy working parts to gain unworking ones. Some looks so good that you can pass until you take your clothes off and no matter how good their plastic surgeon is they don't look quite right.

to paraphrase User's statement:

On 10/27/2024 at 6:31 PM, User said:

So you have seen (them) fully naked and inspected?

Well, Fluff, have you? 😉

Edited October 29, 2024 by Queenmandy85

[User]

54 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

Well, Fluff, have you? 😉

So... you are looking at more than one person now?

Also, if you are going to edit someone's comment in a quote function for some purpose, you need to call it out more explicitly.

[Queenmandy85]

22 minutes ago, User said:

Also, if you are going to edit someone's comment in a quote function for some purpose, you need to call it out more explicitly.

Good point. I apologize. I have edited my post to make my edit to User's post more explicit.

1 hour ago, Queenmandy85 said:

to paraphrase User's statement:

 

Edited October 29, 2024 by Queenmandy85

[herbie]

Reminds me of an immigrant I saw standing up to some jerk that offended his wife:

Err you a men or err you en ezzhole?

Edited October 29, 2024 by herbie

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, herbie said:

Reminds me of an immigrant I saw standing up to some jerk that offended his wife:

Err you a men or err you en ezzhole?

And how did you respond to him?

[Scott75]

On 10/27/2024 at 11:43 AM, User said:

On 10/27/2024 at 11:41 AM, phoenyx75 said:

On 10/27/2024 at 10:49 AM, User said:

On 10/27/2024 at 5:39 AM, phoenyx75 said:

There's nothing dishonest going on here. I've simply decided that I'm alright with calling both transwomen and biological women women.

That is fundamentally dishonest. They are not both women. 

No, you're just trying to impose your definition of women on everyone else.

LOL, it is not my definition.

 

It is, but let's continue with what you were saying...

On 10/27/2024 at 11:43 AM, User said:

It is THE definition for as long as humans have existed and the word has been created in any language. 

I'm sure you know that definitions can and frequently do change over time. An increasing number of people are including trans women as a type of women.

 

On 10/27/2024 at 11:43 AM, User said:

Up until about 5 minutes ago when you folks want to play these dishonest games. 

Thank you for at least acknowledging that some people have now expanded their definition of women to include trans women. 

[Scott75]

On 10/27/2024 at 11:45 AM, User said:

  

On 10/27/2024 at 11:38 AM, phoenyx75 said:

On 10/26/2024 at 9:59 AM, User said:

Feeling like you are something you are not, is not even in the same universe as being attracted to someone of the same sex. 

It all depends on how you define gender. Wikipedia's article on gender makes it clear that what gender means depends on who you're asking:

**

Gender includes the social, psychological, cultural and behavioral aspects of being a man, woman, or other gender identity.^[1][2] Depending on the context, this may include sex-based social constructs (i.e. gender roles) as well as gender expression.^[3][4][5] Most cultures use a gender binary, in which gender is divided into two categories, and people are considered part of one or the other (girls/women and boys/men);^[6][7][8] those who are outside these groups may fall under the umbrella term non-binary. A number of societies have specific genders besides "man" and "woman," such as the hijras of South Asia; these are often referred to as third genders (and fourth genders, etc.). Most scholars agree that gender is a central characteristic for social organization.^[9]

^**

^Source:

^{https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender}

Yeah, the cultural aspects of BEING a man or woman... 

Did you notice that Wikipedia didn't mention biological in its definition?

[Scott75]

On 10/27/2024 at 11:45 AM, Deluge said:

  

On 10/27/2024 at 5:54 AM, phoenyx75 said:

I believe there are some who have similar concerns when it comes to homosexuals and kids.

Homosexuals shouldn't be allowed to have kids either, to be quite frank. 

Ah, so you are part of these some I was referring to. Why do you believe this?

On 10/27/2024 at 11:45 AM, Deluge said:

On 10/27/2024 at 5:54 AM, phoenyx75 said:

In the past, I imagine the same applied to people of color and kids.

It's stupid if it did, as skin color is not directly connected to wrong behaviors.

Putting what you said previously regarding homosexuals and kids, it seems that you believe that being homosexual and/or trans are wrong behaviours? If so, why?

Edited October 30, 2024 by phoenyx75

[Deluge]

5 minutes ago, phoenyx75 said:

Did you notice that Wikipedia didn't mention biological in its definition?

Did you notice that Wikipedia is a dictionary that anyone can edit? That means any ol' piece of sh*t activist democrat can define something however he or she wants. That makes for a pretty shitty dictionary; wouldn't you agree? 

[User]

8 minutes ago, phoenyx75 said:

It is, but let's continue with what you were saying...

Nope. It is THE definition and has been that for as long as we have defined man and woman in human history. 

Only in the last 5 minutes of human history, folks like you want to play these dishonest games to appease people and fabricate meaningless definitions to do so. 

9 minutes ago, phoenyx75 said:

I'm sure you know that definitions can and frequently do change over time. An increasing number of people are including trans women as a type of women.

Except, you are not merely wanting to change a definition over time, you want to change it to a fundamentally meaningless one. 

I reject your meaningless made up definitions. 

 

[Scott75]

On 10/27/2024 at 11:45 AM, Deluge said:

On 10/27/2024 at 5:54 AM, phoenyx75 said:

I don't know if you're the one who said that all trans people have "mental issues" or whether that was someone else, but the bottom line here is, I think, the same- you think that young people shouldn't be around trans people because something is wrong with trans people.

There is something wrong with trans people - they act like the opposite sex and they are not the opposite sex. There is something inherently wrong with that thinking. On top of that, many in the trans community want more than just acknowledgment that they exist. They want compliance and full access to kids, and normal Americans will fight like hell to keep that from happening. 

We were using the word gender in the past, I'm going to stick with that one, especially because gender is recognized by many as having both a social and a biological aspect. I would say that trans people frequently socially interact in ways that are normal for the gender they identify with. They are ofcourse not that gender biologically, but why should that matter? You seem to think that there is something inherently wrong with acting in a way that doesn't conform to societal norms for a given biological gender, but you haven't actually given a reason for why you think this is wrong.

 

As to having "full access to kids", I'm not sure what you mean by that, but I do know that some people in the transgender community have kids of their own. Do you think that is wrong too?

Edited October 30, 2024 by phoenyx75

[User]

19 minutes ago, phoenyx75 said:

Did you notice that Wikipedia didn't mention biological in its definition?

I did not read anything you posted from there. Did you have a point?

[User]

10 minutes ago, phoenyx75 said:

They are ofcourse not that gender biologically, but why should that matter?

Because they are not merely trying to act like the gender they are not. They are not here wanting us to say they are acting like a gender they are not. 

You are not here wanting us to say Trans people are acting like a different gender. 

 

 

[Scott75]

On 10/27/2024 at 11:45 AM, Deluge said:

On 10/27/2024 at 5:54 AM, phoenyx75 said:

I think the truth is that the main issue is that something is wrong with a good chunk of society, mainly that we're far too focused on how the genders are different and we tend to ignore on how they are the same. This goes for trans people and non trans people too. Ultimately, we're all just humans trying to find love and acceptance in the world.

There is something very wrong with society and it's weird people trying to normalize weird behaviors. You know, weirdos like you trying to mainstream transsexualism. But we normal Americans are not going to put up with it.  

Well, I'm glad that we agree that there's something very wrong with a good chunk of society. Unfortunately, we don't agree on -what- is wrong in this case :-p. You can ofcourse insult people who disagree with your viewpoints, but it's not going to make your beliefs more persuasive. I suggest you focus on the reasons you believe what you believe rather than insulting those who don't agree with your beliefs.

Edited October 30, 2024 by phoenyx75

[Scott75]

On 10/27/2024 at 11:46 AM, User said:

On 10/27/2024 at 11:44 AM, phoenyx75 said:

On 10/27/2024 at 10:49 AM, User said:

Believing you are something you are not, is in fact, a mental issue. 

Agreed, but the problem here is something else. Put simply, the problem here is that your definitions of male/female/man/woman/boy/girl aren't the same as other people's definitions of those terms.

My definitions make sense and are what they have been since humans have existed and had terms for male and female. 

Most if not all word definitions make sense, that's not the issue. The issue is how people are defining terms like male and female. Some, like yourself, are sticking to how it was defined in the past. An increasing number of people are defining it in a way that includes trans people to be in the gender they identify with.

[Scott75]

On 10/27/2024 at 11:54 AM, User said:

  

On 10/27/2024 at 11:50 AM, phoenyx75 said:

On 10/27/2024 at 10:49 AM, User said:

Why did you just admit to being a pedophile?

I did no such thing, consider your question harassment, and have reported it as such.

LOL, oh, so now words have only your meaning... 

Some words are generally accepted to be extremely derogatory and generally constitute harassment when used to describe others. This generally isn't the case for words like male and female. What those words -mean-, on the other hand, depends on who you're asking. 

[Nationalist]

18 minutes ago, phoenyx75 said:

Well, I'm glad that we agree that there's something very wrong with a good chunk of society. Unfortunately, it seems we don't agree on what is wrong in this case :-p. You can ofcourse insult people who disagree with your viewpoints, but it's not going to make your beliefs more persuasive. I suggest you focus on the reasons you believe what you believe rather than insulting those who don't agree with your beliefs.

If I may...

Male and female genders are the means for which almost all life on Earth propagates. It is thus a rather important term. It has huge significance. 

Do you really expect people to just accept this...warping of sexual distinction? Can you not understand how this...silliness make most people uncomfortable?

A word of advice...which you may acknowledge or not, but will always be true.

It is incredibly dangerous to fck with Mother Nature. That cannot meet with "good" results.

Make-up a new word if you must. I might suggest "trannie". But stop warping nature and the words that denote creation itself.

Edited October 30, 2024 by Nationalist

[Deluge]

14 minutes ago, phoenyx75 said:

Well, I'm glad that we agree that there's something very wrong with a good chunk of society. Unfortunately, we don't agree on -what- is wrong in this case :-p. You can ofcourse insult people who disagree with your viewpoints, but it's not going to make your beliefs more persuasive. I suggest you focus on the reasons you believe what you believe rather than insulting those who don't agree with your beliefs.

I insult people when they are dishonest. You are trying to normalize transsexualism when transexual behavior is not normal, and that is dishonest. As I've already stated, multiple times, trannies can dress up however they want as long as they don't try to work their agenda into normal society. 

So I can appreciate your attempt to redirect my language towards liars, but that isn't going to happen. 

Now, my advice to you is stop peddling the woke agenda. It's made a pretty jarring run so far, but it has pretty much already peaked. I suggest you get back to one of the classics like nuke protesting or tying yourself to a tree.  

[Scott75]

On 10/27/2024 at 11:58 AM, Deluge said:

On 10/27/2024 at 6:09 AM, phoenyx75 said:

On 10/26/2024 at 1:05 PM, Deluge said:

They're all thorny issues which is why dressing up and going out on the town is the only choice. Anything outside of that needs to be illegal - especially with kids.

Let's not forget that all trans people were once kids too.

Great. Then trannies can dress up as kids and play with each other.  

You missed the point I was trying to make. My point is, why do some people identify as trans? Even experts aren't sure, but I think the following text from the American Psychological Association is interesting:

**

Why are some people transgender?

There is no single explanation for why some people are transgender. The diversity of transgender expression and experiences argues against any simple or unitary explanation. Many experts believe that biological factors such as genetic influences and prenatal hormone levels, early experiences, and experiences later in adolescence or adulthood may all contribute to the development of transgender identities.

**

Source:

Understanding transgender people, gender identity and gender expression | American Psychological Association

It's clear that some kids feel like they're transgender early on. I for one think they should be given the resources to deal with this as best they can.

On 10/27/2024 at 11:58 AM, Deluge said:

On 10/27/2024 at 6:09 AM, phoenyx75 said:

I -strongly- suspect that this insistence that the genders are different is actually part of the -reason- that some people decide to become trans, and sometimes even go as far as altering their body physically to appear more like the biological gender they identify with. Did you know that it's illegal to be homosexual in Iran, but it's ok (if still looked down upon) to be transexual? It's true:

https://www.dw.com/en/how-irans-anti-lgbt-policies-put-transgender-people-at-risk/a-53270136

 

Some U.S. states still have statutes criminalizing sodomy, although these laws have become "enforceable due to the binding precedent of Lawrence v. Texas, meaning consensual sodomy cannot be prosecuted.^[26]"

Source:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy_laws_in_the_United_States

I think what's needed is that more people understand the pain that transgender people go through in their daily lives. I suspect you could do with more understanding of this pain yourself. The more people understand this, the more I suspect that things will become better, for everyone.

See, that's the beauty of mental health professionals and facilities. They can take the trannies in and help them work through their mental disorders. My suggestion would be that the trannies stay in treatment facilities until they feel empowered to act within the appropriate standards of their biological sex. 

 

The "appropriate standards of their biological sex"? Can you elaborate on what you mean by this?

Edited October 30, 2024 by phoenyx75

[Deluge]

1 hour ago, phoenyx75 said:

We were using the word gender in the past, I'm going to stick with that one, especially because gender is recognized by many as having both a social and a biological aspect. I would say that trans people frequently socially interact in ways that are normal for the gender they identify with. They are ofcourse not that gender biologically, but why should that matter? You seem to think that there is something inherently wrong with acting in a way that doesn't conform to societal norms for a given biological gender, but you haven't actually given a reason for why you think this is wrong.

 

As to having "full access to kids", I'm not sure what you mean by that, but I do know that some people in the transgender community have kids of their own. Do you think that is wrong too?

I'm going to stick with the word "biological" and biologically speaking, your dear friends, the trannies, are not what or who they think they are. Men are men, women are women, and your confused friends need to stay in the apporpriate bathrooms.  

[Deluge]

Just now, phoenyx75 said:

You missed the point I was trying to make. My point is, why do some people identify as trans? Even experts aren't sure, but I think the following text from the American Psychologist Association is interesting:

**

Why are some people transgender?

There is no single explanation for why some people are transgender. The diversity of transgender expression and experiences argues against any simple or unitary explanation. Many experts believe that biological factors such as genetic influences and prenatal hormone levels, early experiences, and experiences later in adolescence or adulthood may all contribute to the development of transgender identities.

**

Source:

https://www.apa.org/topics/lgbtq/transgender-people-gender-identity-gender-expression

It's clear that some kids feel like they're transgender early on. I for one think they should be given the resources to deal with this as best they can.

 

The "appropriate standards of their biological sex"? Can you elaborate on what you mean by this?

Men who dress up like women need to respect boundaries. In other words, they are not welcome in women's bathrooms, nor are they to be in drag around children. 

[User]

46 minutes ago, phoenyx75 said:

Most if not all word definitions make sense, that's not the issue. The issue is how people are defining terms like male and female. Some, like yourself, are sticking to how it was defined in the past. An increasing number of people are defining it in a way that includes trans people to be in the gender they identify with.

The issue is that your attempt to change the definitions make no sense. Which is why you keep running away from addressing that point. 

I reject your attempt to change terms to something that is meaningless and then expect the rest of us to go along with it. 

I will stick to truth, logic, science, and reason.