Sinwar Dead!

[cannuck]

Looks like the IDF got Sinwar.  Good for them.

https://www.axios.com/2024/10/17/sinwar-hamas-israel-killed-gaza

I am amazed about the constant protests in support of Hamas that don't seem to realize that the IDF has been militarily opposed by Hamas for more than a year now.   Right under the noses of several UN entities everyone watched Hamas (and Hezbollah) build massive armies and arsenals with thousands of rockets aimed at Israel - and even with a full year of all out war there is STILL a Hamas (and very much Hezbollah) infrastructure threatening Israel.

I am not the IDF (or Mossad)'s best supporters, but the Gaza thing and now Lebanon (plus the obvious attacks directly from their puppet masters in Iran) is demonstrable proof that not only the citizenry but the massive UN element that has funded and delivered huge levels of support that turned a blind - and in many cases all seeing eye towards the obvious threat to Israel.

[cannuck]

Israel has now (17:00 GMT) confirmed him dead.

[Army Guy]

2 hours ago, cannuck said:

Israel has now (17:00 GMT) confirmed him dead.

Israel is doing the world a great favor by destroying these terrorist networks....while the rest of the free world sits on their asses and watches....

[carepov]

I am normally a very nice and pro-peace person.  I try my best to be empathetic to all people and even animals.  I hate suffering and loathe to celebrate the death of anyone.  This is an exception!

Sinwar and his co-terrorists have caused so much suffering - especially to the Palestinian people - the world is better of without him!

[eyeball]

For every solution there's a new set of problems. Who will Israel negotiate with if the leaders in a position to negotiate are all dead?

 

[ironstone]

Sinwar up close and personal in his last minutes.

 

[User]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

For every solution there's a new set of problems. Who will Israel negotiate with if the leaders in a position to negotiate are all dead?

 

LOL, because negotiations have gone so well for the last year now. 

Here is the negotiation: Surrender or keep getting killed. 

[eyeball]

23 minutes ago, User said:

LOL, because negotiations have gone so well for the last year now. 

Here is the negotiation: Surrender or keep getting killed. 

I bet the LOL would go over well with hostages and their families wondering what's next.

[User]

3 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I bet the LOL would go over well with hostages and their families wondering what's next.

Yes, thats right, the terrorist thugs you support here took hostages. 

Hamas should surrender and hand them over, or keep getting killed. 

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, User said:

the terrorist thugs you support here took hostages. 

No that would be you who supports terrorist thugs - to the point of caving to them. I support resisting subjugation.

[cannuck]

4 hours ago, eyeball said:

For every solution there's a new set of problems. Who will Israel negotiate with if the leaders in a position to negotiate are all dead?

The top leadership of Hamas has enjoyed a charmed life in Qatar - not getting their hands dirty in Gaza.  Between the three of them:  Ismail Haniyeh, Moussa Abu Marzuk and Khaled Masha they have skimmed over $10 Bn from money supposedly going to Gaza

[eyeball]

58 minutes ago, cannuck said:

The top leadership of Hamas has enjoyed a charmed life in Qatar

By rights Israel should be dropping bombs there.

[cannuck]

8 hours ago, eyeball said:

By rights Israel should be dropping bombs there.

Legal bombs are what is needed.   What the BBC and Al Jazeera conveniently forget is the real leadership of Hamas (and I expect a mirror image at Hezbollah) are those who are there to skim cash into their personal bank accounts - and for the 3 at the top of Hamas that is over ten billion USD.  People think these things are all about religious and political ideology, but in fact they are simply about money.  Do you have any idea how many UN officials you can bribe with 10b in your account?   Imagine that all of the tens of thousands of rockets that Hamas amassed within Gaza got there?  The ...uh... COMMISSIONs paid to the gate keepers (i.e. those in their office in Qatar) on each one of those tens to hundreds of thousands items flows straight into their bank accounts.  Every time a crooked Swiss oil trading company (i.e. ANY of them) does a phony deal to sell Iranian oil (usually given a Certificate of Origin on the other side of the Straits of Hormuz = UAE or...wait for it....Qatar) blended with some other crude in a thinly veiled effort to disguise it) another 100 million goes into the works.  Start grabbing bank accounts, seizing cargos and arresting their UN accomplices, oil and arms dealers and THEN you could put a tiny dent in the real problem.

Of course, if Mossad was really on their game, they could grab the cash and eliminate the leadership in a quiet way.   THAT would send a message to Khamenei that might make the POS think twice.

Edited October 18, 2024 by cannuck

[User]

11 hours ago, eyeball said:

No that would be you who supports terrorist thugs - to the point of caving to them. I support resisting subjugation.

Nope, it was Hamas who brutally launched their terror attack on October 7th and that is the terrorism you support. 

[ironstone]

16 hours ago, eyeball said:

For every solution there's a new set of problems. Who will Israel negotiate with if the leaders in a position to negotiate are all dead?

 

Everyone that Israel has negotiated with in the past always negotiated in bad faith. 

[eyeball]

3 hours ago, User said:

Nope, it was Hamas who brutally launched their terror attack on October 7th and that is the terrorism you support.

You support the terrorism that created Israel and the inevitable resistance to it.

I don't support war crimes, do you?

[User]

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

You support the terrorism that created Israel and the inevitable resistance to it.

I don't support war crimes, do you?

The resistance to what... Israel existing?

You have a very sick and depraved view of things here as you support these Hamas thugs raping, torturing, and killing. 

Well, too bad, now a lot more people are dying for what you support, not that you care. 

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, ironstone said:

Everyone that Israel has negotiated with in the past always negotiated in bad faith. 

Everyone that defends the manner by which Israel was created and who also had a hand in its creation is a dishonest broker negotiating in worse than bad faith.

[ironstone]

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

Everyone that defends the manner by which Israel was created and who also had a hand in its creation is a dishonest broker negotiating in worse than bad faith.

The UN did play a major role in the creation of Israel. It's rare that any large initiative gets unanimous consent and that was no different in 1947. Are you on that long list of people that want to see Israel wiped off the map?

[eyeball]

10 minutes ago, User said:

The resistance to what... Israel existing?

The terrifying subjugating manner by which it came into existence.

11 minutes ago, User said:

You have a very sick and depraved view of things here as you support these Hamas thugs raping, torturing, and killing. 

No I really don't. I've made it patently clear I support charging war criminals with their war crimes.

Why you haven't, can't or won't acknowledge that there are war criminals on both speaks volumes about your disgraceful state of mind.

[eyeball]

4 minutes ago, ironstone said:

The UN did play a major role in the creation of Israel. It's rare that any large initiative gets unanimous consent and that was no different in 1947. Are you on that long list of people that want to see Israel wiped off the map?

No, I'm one of those people who want to see Palestine on the map alongside Israel.

[User]

3 minutes ago, eyeball said:

The terrifying subjugating manner by which it came into existence.

Yeah, we played this dumb game before. You could never explain what that subjugation was. 

3 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No I really don't. I've made it patently clear I support charging war criminals with their war crimes.

Why you haven't, can't or won't acknowledge that there are war criminals on both speaks volumes about your disgraceful state of mind.

Yeah, we played this dumb game before too. What court will Hamas be tried in and who brings them to that court?

You offer these ignorant comments as a ruse. In the end, Hamas stays in power and keeps killing Israeli people. Which is what you support. 

4 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No, I'm one of those people who want to see Palestine on the map alongside Israel.

They had that on day 1. Ever since they have chosen war instead. 

[ironstone]

4 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No, I'm one of those people who want to see Palestine on the map alongside Israel.

Interesting. More territory than Gaza currently occupies?

If so, how much more territory?

[ironstone]

So how well informed is the typical anti-Israel progressive?

I guess not very well informed.

[Legato]

20 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No, I'm one of those people who want to see Palestine on the map alongside Israel.

You want a state of Palestine existing next to an Israeli state where the former wants everyone exterminated in the latter.

What a twisted state of mind you encompass.