ClearWest Posted March 28, 2006 Report Posted March 28, 2006 Let's say you were running for a Canadian Federal Election right now. What are your personal priorities in government? What policies would you support? You're standing before your public right now, they want to know what you will do should you get in--What is your answer? For example, you may wish to include: -Your tax policy -Your environmental policy -Your foreign policy -Your policy on social issues (ie. Marriage, Drugs, etc) -Changes you would make in the direction of public spending (ie. More/less military spending, etc) I'm looking forward to seeing your platform! ((Feel free to include provincial issues if you can't think of enough federal ones)) (I'll post mine a wee bit later.) Have fun outlining your platform Quote A system that robs Peter to pay Paul will always have Paul's support.
Biblio Bibuli Posted March 28, 2006 Report Posted March 28, 2006 Let's say you were running for a Canadian Federal Election right now. What are your personal priorities in government? What policies would you support? You're standing before your public right now, they want to know what you will do should you get in--What is your answer? Have fun outlining your platform Seriously?? ... My platform would be to put money in the Canadian people's pockets until we were back on even par (or nearly even) with the Americans again. The way we used to be. Then I would change the anthem from "O Canada ..." to " HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN ..." From what I hear that is precisely what Michael Ignatieff wants to do. GO IGNATIEFF GO !!! Quote When a true Genius appears in the World, you may know him by this Sign, that the Dunces are all in confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift GO IGGY GO!
cybercoma Posted March 28, 2006 Report Posted March 28, 2006 Let's say you were running for a Canadian Federal Election right now. What are your personal priorities in government? What policies would you support? You're standing before your public right now, they want to know what you will do should you get in--What is your answer? For example, you may wish to include: -Your tax policy -Your environmental policy -Your foreign policy -Your policy on social issues (ie. Marriage, Drugs, etc) -Changes you would make in the direction of public spending (ie. More/less military spending, etc) I'm looking forward to seeing your platform! ((Feel free to include provincial issues if you can't think of enough federal ones)) (I'll post mine a wee bit later.) Have fun outlining your platform Tax: Keep the GST, raise the base tax exemption to put money directly into everyone's pockets. Environement: Tax incentives for corporations who meet emissions standards. Withdraw from Kyoto to keep much needed tax dollars at home, instead of paying other countries for credits. Allow people to reverse their meters if they setup solar/wind or other methods of hydro. Create other incentives for people and companies to reduce their impact on the environmenet. Foreign Policy: Look for real results to be accomplished in other nations. Instead of handing over checks, build infrastructure, assist governments in organizing to help their people, assist with healthcare, education, etc... Social Issues: To each his/her own as long as they're not forcing others to do something they don't want to do. Support benefits for same sex spouses, support meaningful research into the effects of marijuana (to determine once and for all whether it should be decriminalized), pro-choice for abortion. Public Spending: Spend more money on military so we can become an active peacekeeper for the UN and NATO. Spend more money on municipal/provincial safety services such as police, fire and ambulance. Stop spending money on healthcare that could be provided privately; however, increase spending on public healthcare insurance that would cover more so no one goes without care. I don't feel like spending a ton of time on this, but those are a few basic ideas on the categories you listed. Quote "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions." --Thomas Jefferson
Guest Warwick Green Posted March 28, 2006 Report Posted March 28, 2006 I'm a biz-con: Make the "Smart Regulation" inititiative into something meaningful Income tax cuts rather than cuts to the GST Vigorous program to improve productivity Dump Harper's Handout Others: Clean up government More public input into appointments If we are going to have a military finance it properly Kyoto is a joke Not keen on any kind of publicly financed daycare. Social issues: I can't say I support same-sex marriage but the issue isn't important enough to waste the time of the HofC over I support a woman's right to an abortion but can live with late term restrictions I agreed with the SCOC's kirpan decision No de-crimming of pot Quote
Michael Hardner Posted March 28, 2006 Report Posted March 28, 2006 All of these issues are subordinate to the poor methods we have to dispense and discuss issues. Until we fix that, we'll be unable to have any meaningful debate on the issues that are before us. I would retool the whole democratic process to either: 1) Simplify the operations of electable government so that more people can understand it and take part in the process. or 2) Accept the fact that only 20% of people know what's going on anyway, and work to get as much good information to that 20%. Our central nervous system is damaged. We have to fix that before we embark on major reform. Quote  Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
SamStranger Posted March 28, 2006 Report Posted March 28, 2006 Privatize everything, so Income taxes would not be needed. GST gone. Id rather pay $200 to a see a doctor then see 40% of my paycheck go to taxes, that help f'in bums and teenage mothers. Quote "They say that lifes a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well. The world is full of Kings and Queens who blind your eyes then steal your dreams- it's heaven and hell. And they will tell you black is really white, the moon is just the sun at night, and when you walk in golden halls you get to keep the gold that falls- its heaven and hell" -Ronnie James Dio
Michael Hardner Posted March 28, 2006 Report Posted March 28, 2006 Privatize everything, so Income taxes would not be needed. GST gone.Id rather pay $200 to a see a doctor then see 40% of my paycheck go to taxes, that help f'in bums and teenage mothers. You should form your opinions based on facts rather than prejudices. 40% of your income doesn't go to bums, it goes towards the commonwealth that decides the best way to spend it. You should do your part within that framework and inform yourself if you're unhappy with how it works. Bums are lazy when it comes to working, ignoramuses are lazy when it comes to thinking. Quote  Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
SamStranger Posted March 28, 2006 Report Posted March 28, 2006 Privatize everything, so Income taxes would not be needed. GST gone.Id rather pay $200 to a see a doctor then see 40% of my paycheck go to taxes, that help f'in bums and teenage mothers. You should form your opinions based on facts rather than prejudices. 40% of your income doesn't go to bums, it goes towards the commonwealth that decides the best way to spend it. You should do your part within that framework and inform yourself if you're unhappy with how it works. Bums are lazy when it comes to working, ignoramuses are lazy when it comes to thinking. Don't you dare preach to me Commie, I know how you left leaning assholes think. You want the governement to take your money and decide what to do with it!!! thats bullshit. Thats communism in a nutshell, and I for one say "screw that" I quote the voice of metal, Ronnie James Dio: "The stronger the government gets, the weaker the people get. You let them take one penny, the wolves return for more. If you let a man set fire to your home, would u lead him to your neighbour? Stop telling me how it should be, I already see what it is" Now thats poetry!! Quote "They say that lifes a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well. The world is full of Kings and Queens who blind your eyes then steal your dreams- it's heaven and hell. And they will tell you black is really white, the moon is just the sun at night, and when you walk in golden halls you get to keep the gold that falls- its heaven and hell" -Ronnie James Dio
Michael Hardner Posted March 28, 2006 Report Posted March 28, 2006 Don't you dare preach to me Commie, I know how you left leaning assholes think. You want the governement to take your money and decide what to do with it!!! thats bullshit. Thats communism in a nutshell, and I for one say "screw that" Sorry, but you seem to have mistaken me for some stereotype or other. The system I described is used in every Western democracy we have, so I don't think you should be calling me extreme. I quote the voice of metal, Ronnie James Dio: "The stronger the government gets, the weaker the people get. You let them take one penny, the wolves return for more. If you let a man set fire to your home, would u lead him to your neighbour? Stop telling me how it should be, I already see what it is"Now thats poetry!! smile.gif Well, it's hard to match wits with Ronnie James Dio. I believe in personal accountability and responsibility, which includes informing yourself of the facts before shooting off your mouth like an expert. My hope is that my post will cause you to hold up a lit Bic lighter in support, but somehow I doubt that will happen. Quote  Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
SamStranger Posted March 28, 2006 Report Posted March 28, 2006 I understand ur point. But, that left-wing style thinking is border-line communism. once we go down that road, theirs no comming back. I think we need to move in the direction of privatization and quick. The public health system is good, but it's too flawed. It is not fair that I pay into a pension that pays for my health care, yet I have to pay taxes to a system I don't need?? How is that right?? I understand that their is poor people out their, that would not get treatment for health care if it was private. So we should change the system. People that can afford health care should pay for it. people that can't should get it free. That way, instead of paying taxes to support 30 million people, we would only pay taxes to support 5 million people. Taxes would gooo wayyyyy down, and everyone would be happy. Quote "They say that lifes a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well. The world is full of Kings and Queens who blind your eyes then steal your dreams- it's heaven and hell. And they will tell you black is really white, the moon is just the sun at night, and when you walk in golden halls you get to keep the gold that falls- its heaven and hell" -Ronnie James Dio
Forum Admin Greg Posted March 28, 2006 Forum Admin Report Posted March 28, 2006 Don't you dare preach to me Commie, I know how you left leaning assholes think. You want the governement to take your money and decide what to do with it!!! thats bullshit. Thats communism in a nutshell, and I for one say "screw that" Perhaps you missed the warning I recently made about insults and disruptive behaviour? As usual some posters get a little to comfortable around here and end up behaving like children. So, for the next couple of weeks, if I catch anyone using insults or any other type of ignorant behaviour you will be suspended for one month. We will see you in a month SamStranger. Quote Have any issues, problems using the forum? Post a message in the Support and Questions section of the forums.
geoffrey Posted March 28, 2006 Report Posted March 28, 2006 Sam, I hope you've never used police or fire services, or ever will. I hope you don't mind have no military. I also hope you don't ever send your kids to public schools or worry when they pay $25,000 in tution fees. I'm a very small-government person, and I like privatisation of most things. But what your advocating is ridiculous, no taxes at all and just anarchy? I don't think so. Don't go calling people communists because they believe there is a place for government, that is a rather ignorant thing to do. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
politika Posted March 28, 2006 Report Posted March 28, 2006 Let's say you were running for a Canadian Federal Election right now. What are your personal priorities in government? What policies would you support? You're standing before your public right now, they want to know what you will do should you get in--What is your answer? For example, you may wish to include: -Your tax policy -Your environmental policy -Your foreign policy -Your policy on social issues (ie. Marriage, Drugs, etc) -Changes you would make in the direction of public spending (ie. More/less military spending, etc) I'm looking forward to seeing your platform! ((Feel free to include provincial issues if you can't think of enough federal ones)) (I'll post mine a wee bit later.) Have fun outlining your platform I would be a conservative economit supporting big business in Canada Tax policy: Fine where it is people pay taxes to get free health, education etc. Environment: Find my own inititives to lower gren house gasses screw kyoto. Foreign policy: Focus on military aid ex. Cut funding to Africa untill our military can stabilize it from their corrupt governments. Also expanding our national interests, more military to fighting terrorism and tough against those who support or fund it. Social issues: keep everything the way it is, keep pot illegal and ban ssm I would make sure Canada's economy grew strong with a huge business sector and large military. I would increase military spending alot and keep everything else where it is, although tax may have to be raised to support more money toward a new budget. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted March 28, 2006 Report Posted March 28, 2006 I think the fact that people like Sam don't know exactly what's being done with their tax money is another example of our terrible informational infrastructure. Although I criticized him, I can't blame him in a way for not knowing what is being prioritized as the workings of government are not presented in a clear and easy to understand way. Some people actually think that the money goes to pay the salaries of politicians ! I know Revenue Canada has some links with pie charts, etc., but I remember even those charts had murky information.... As part of my platform (!) I'll try to come up with links. Thanks for this thread.... Quote  Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
JerrySeinfeld Posted March 28, 2006 Report Posted March 28, 2006 Sam, I hope you've never used police or fire services, or ever will. I hope you don't mind have no military. I also hope you don't ever send your kids to public schools or worry when they pay $25,000 in tution fees.I'm a very small-government person, and I like privatisation of most things. But what your advocating is ridiculous, no taxes at all and just anarchy? I don't think so. Don't go calling people communists because they believe there is a place for government, that is a rather ignorant thing to do. Giving money and power to government is like giving alcohol andcar keys to teenage boys. Off with their heads! All we've seen our government do is consistently raise taxes and provide LESS services. Time to privatize I say! Quote
geoffrey Posted March 28, 2006 Report Posted March 28, 2006 The government hasn't raised taxes in quite some time. What else would you privatise other than health care and education? Police? Military? Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
Michael Hardner Posted March 28, 2006 Report Posted March 28, 2006 All we've seen our government do is consistently raise taxes and provide LESS services. Kind of like the banks, eh ? I've worked for both, and they're pretty indistinguishable from the other - especially when it comes to bad management and throwing money at problems. I think many of the problems attributed to government are better attributed to organizational challenges and bureaucracy in general. That being said, the left's response (roughly, "hands off our government - don't criticize them") is no better than the right's. Quote  Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
GostHacked Posted March 28, 2006 Report Posted March 28, 2006 I consider myself a socialist. Domestic Policy I would like to make Hydro, water and health care a government department again overseed by a public council. Taxes may go a bit higher, but your basic necessities are coverd by the government. Government Reform Sessions is ALWAYS in. Holidays would quickly go bye byes. No more 3 more weeks till parliment opens. It should always be open and always be working. The rest of the country does this, so the government should follow suit. I would be cutting ALOT of jobs in government, well the useless ones. I don't know what they are yet. If not cutting jobs, seriously reducing government workers pay. Other points : I would like to make closer ties to EU and more. Economicly and politicaly. Set up a system to prevent price gouging. More spending on bringing our Military up to date. Curb the high rising cost of post secondary education. Set standards for the whole country. An education in Ontario should be just as good as an education in Manitoba, PEI.. and yes even in Quebec. I would make a law stating that ceceeding from the Commonwealth is an act of treason and will be dealt with in a not so very nice way. I would like some reform in Quebec personaly. Get rid of 'affermative action' meaning minorities would no longer get special treatment. Hire the person with the better qualifications. Quote Google : Webster Griffin Tarpley, Gerald Celente, Max Keiser ohm on soundcloud.com
August1991 Posted March 29, 2006 Report Posted March 29, 2006 All we've seen our government do is consistently raise taxes and provide LESS services. Kind of like the banks, eh ? I've worked for both, and they're pretty indistinguishable from the other - especially when it comes to bad management and throwing money at problems. I think many of the problems attributed to government are better attributed to organizational challenges and bureaucracy in general. That being said, the left's response (roughly, "hands off our government - don't criticize them") is no better than the right's. My Canadian bank frequently takes money out of my account for reasons I never quite fathom, but there are limits to how much. If it became extreme, I'd go to another bank.The Canadian government can take money out of my account at any time it wants, and the only choice I have is to leave the country. IOW, bureaucracy is bureaucracy but government bureaucrats never have to face a "customer"; bank bureaucrats eventually do. In any case, Canadian banks are a poor example of free market relations. The banks behave like government bureaucracies because they are a creature of federal government law. Quote
JerrySeinfeld Posted March 29, 2006 Report Posted March 29, 2006 The government hasn't raised taxes in quite some time.What else would you privatise other than health care and education? Police? Military? Ever heard of bracket creep? Since when is $60K per year in today's world a "top income bracket"? Quote
geoffrey Posted March 29, 2006 Report Posted March 29, 2006 The government hasn't raised taxes in quite some time. What else would you privatise other than health care and education? Police? Military? Ever heard of bracket creep? Since when is $60K per year in today's world a "top income bracket"? Canadian tax brackets are adjusted with inflation so 'bracket creep' is very minimal, it does exist though I agree. In Canada it is far more about the workers getting paid considerably more than inflation... this year wages in my province are up 8% and inflation is only 2.2%. So people should be paying more tax, they have a higher standard of living. That's if you believe in progressive taxation. $35,595 or less - 15% $35,595 to $71,190 - 22% $71,190 to $115,739 - 26% More than $115,739 - 29% Those are the rates in Canada. $60,000 a year is only the second bracket, pretty reasonable to me. You have to make $116k+ to be in the top bracket. So please, if your going to make a statement, at least do a google on the facts. There are also many more deductions and loopholes if you have a good accountant or tax lawyer. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
Michael Hardner Posted March 29, 2006 Report Posted March 29, 2006 I checked and I think geoff is correct. Wikipedia - Tax Brackets Quote  Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Michael Hardner Posted March 29, 2006 Report Posted March 29, 2006 My Canadian bank frequently takes money out of my account for reasons I never quite fathom, but there are limits to how much. If it became extreme, I'd go to another bank. Well, you'd find pretty much the same situation between the big banks. And, again, the point is that lumbering old institutions seem to deteriorate over time. The Canadian government can take money out of my account at any time it wants, and the only choice I have is to leave the country. Sort of, but ok... IOW, bureaucracy is bureaucracy but government bureaucrats never have to face a "customer"; bank bureaucrats eventually do. Not really. The bank across the street, or on any of the other corners are run the exact same way. If there were more banks then maybe we'd see better services. In any case, Canadian banks are a poor example of free market relations. The banks behave like government bureaucracies because they are a creature of federal government law. Other monopolies have a lot of the same characteristics, including (I imagine) natural monopolies that arise out of high startup costs, etc., rather than regulations. Quote  Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Michael Hardner Posted March 29, 2006 Report Posted March 29, 2006 With regards to my platform (see post above) for better information... Here's what a Google search for 'canada government expenditures' turns up: 2nd link -> Statscan Page This breaks down government expenditures into categories such as health, environment and so on. What's good about this graph is that it's easy to read, and easy to understand. What's bad is... that's all you get. You can't drill down to find out, for example, what the 500 million or so spent on 'planning' went to. Does this graph give me enough information to decide if the government is doing a good job ? No it doesn't. Quote  Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
geoffrey Posted March 29, 2006 Report Posted March 29, 2006 $76b on social services? I quit. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
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