CdnFox Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 43 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: CdnFox is towing the Kremlin line like a pro. If he is not directly compensated financially for his efforts, then he is a fool. And where did i do that exactly? LOL As always lefties have to a) lie and b) drink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five of swords Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 19 hours ago, TreeBeard said: Russia buying right-wing “independent” media to influence Canadian politics. It explains a lot of right-wing talking points parroted on forums like this one. A lot of useful nincompoops soak this information up like sponges and regurgitate it on social media. https://www.cbc.ca/news/investigates/russian-influence-election-tenet-media-chen-southern-1.7314976 "Any Canadians who illegally assist in Russia's persistent attempts to use disinformation, criminal and covert activities, and corruption to undermine our sovereignty and democratic processes will face the full force of Canadian law," https://vancouversun.com/news/us-media-company-accused-of-being-financed-by-russian-operatives-has-a-bc-connection It is alleged that the Russians funnelled $10 million to covertly finance a Tennessee-based online content creation company as part of a “scheme to create and distribute content to U.S. audiences with hidden Russian government messaging.” Those influencers include Surrey native Lauren Southern. In the nine months leading up to July 31 of this year, Southern created 94 videos for the network’s social media channels. In one of her videos, the 29-year-old describes the 2021 discovery of suspected unmarked graves at a former Kamloops residential school as a “hoax”. So what you are saying is that all you need is to control media to control people's opinions. So...you support democracy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 (edited) 9 hours ago, CdnFox said: Almost every major news station pays more in legal fees than these guys are providing. Huh? 9 hours ago, CdnFox said: to be blunt EVERY news organizaiton has special interests giving it large amounts of money one way or another. “Some news outlets are beholden to their marketing departments and major advertisers, some are beholden to the Kremlin. Same-same!”🙄 9 hours ago, CdnFox said: In short, the news is bias. And cnn and nbc are no better. Absolutely they are, they are not under the control of a foreign enemy’s government 9 hours ago, CdnFox said: it makes less impact than you think but sure, cnn, fox, nbc, etc etc are all bias. And it's good to know where money is coming from but you should already know that you need to check out more than one news source to get a clear picture. Tell me .. can you find ANYONE here who says fox has no bias? I rather doubt it. At least Fox only indirectly shills for Putin by shilling for Donald Trump. One would think that one degree of separation wouldn’t make much of a difference but it does. And there is still a substantial minority of anti-Putin Republicans in the Fox News ecosystem so Fox has kept the pro-Kremlin narratives (relatively) contained since Tucker’s departure Edited September 12 by BeaverFever 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 Ezra Levant furious to discover he could have been getting money from Russia this whole time https://www.thebeaverton.com/2024/09/ezra-levant-furious-to-discover-he-could-have-been-getting-money-from-russia-this-whole-time/ 2 1 1 Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 lol I forgot about that clown. 1 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 (edited) 21 hours ago, TreeBeard said: Russia buying right-wing “independent” media to influence Canadian politics. It explains a lot of right-wing talking points parroted on forums like this one. A lot of useful nincompoops soak this information up like sponges and regurgitate it on social media. https://www.cbc.ca/news/investigates/russian-influence-election-tenet-media-chen-southern-1.7314976 "Any Canadians who illegally assist in Russia's persistent attempts to use disinformation, criminal and covert activities, and corruption to undermine our sovereignty and democratic processes will face the full force of Canadian law," https://vancouversun.com/news/us-media-company-accused-of-being-financed-by-russian-operatives-has-a-bc-connection It is alleged that the Russians funnelled $10 million to covertly finance a Tennessee-based online content creation company as part of a “scheme to create and distribute content to U.S. audiences with hidden Russian government messaging.” Those influencers include Surrey native Lauren Southern. In the nine months leading up to July 31 of this year, Southern created 94 videos for the network’s social media channels. In one of her videos, the 29-year-old describes the 2021 discovery of suspected unmarked graves at a former Kamloops residential school as a “hoax”. That was pure drivel Treebeard. What were you thinking? $10M worth of disinformation is only about 10 minutes worth of a normal CNN broadcast or 1 hr of CBC. Do you think that Lauren Southern was wrong to call the tree root scam a hoax? Was she supposed to pretend that the tree roots just had to be the bodies of mass-murdered children for a year, just like CBC and Trudeau did? How is regular Trudeau/CBC disinformation somehow 'better' than Russian messaging? Do you think that we don't fund disinformation in other countries, or support America doing it? (Iraq just called, they really want you to answer that one) Do you think that we aren't being bombarded with Iranian disinformation on a daily basis? Do you think that everything that Russians are saying over here is false, and all the things we say about Russia are true? You live in a dreamworld, TB. You're drowning in disinformation every day, and when you're exposed to the truth you act like a vampire being doused with holy water. Tell me how safe and effective the jabs were again TB, and how badly young people needed them. Tell me how perfect Afghanistan withdrawal was, or how minuscule inflation was in the US in 2022, or how it was 'Putin's fault'. Tell me about the 'pandemic of the unvaccinated', and how insignificant Trudeau's non-scandals were. Tell me where Duffygate ranks on the all-time list of Canadian political scandals. Tell me how legit the Russian collusion coverage was for 3 years. Tell me about the "mostly peaceful protests, with just a little bit of city-burning and cop-killing". Tell me how sharp Biden is mentally. Explain to me how E J Caroll giggling while getting her **** grabbed means that she was raped, or how Trump was allegedly supposed to know not to go any further at that point? Your brain is a cesspool of disinformation which you not only believe, but which you protect and cherish like it's God's own toddler. There's no better way to prove that you're a credulous, gender-confused dipshit in this day and age than to cry "Russian disinformation!" You'll never learn. Edited September 12 by WestCanMan Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 13 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Took millions in Kremlin cash, directed to promote Kremlin propaganda including Tucker Carlson’s ridiculous Moscow supermarket visit, spread lies about Ukraine. But we’ve known all this. We’ve known Moscow has had its talons and operatives in the western world’s right wing media and conservative groups and political campaigns for well over a decade. We’ve got Kremlin stooges like Nationalist and Taxme haunting this very site. Every time the right wing says “so what doesn’t prove anything”. This is just more evidence they’ll ignore. RUSSIA!RUSSIA!RUSSIA! I shoulda known the original collusion clown would pop in 🤣 1 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 (edited) 2 hours ago, BeaverFever said: “Some news outlets are beholden to their marketing departments and major advertisers, So how much of our own Canadian and American disinformation can you admit to? Do you think that stations like CBC and CNN are "fair and balanced, offering their best attempts at accurate newscasts"? Quote At least Fox only indirectly shills for Putin by shilling for Donald Trump. Are you still gonna go with "Fox News is the worst"? Were they the ones saying things like "mostly peaceful protests" and "Russian collusion" when they knew they were lying? Did they say "pandemic of the unvaccinated"? How honest is the legacy MSM here, in your esteemed opinion, Beavey? Can you justify giving them a lofty 4 out of 10? I'd love to see you try. Edited September 12 by WestCanMan Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 Where are the stupid gimps? Can't one of you man up here? 🤣 Sorry for using the word 'man', I hope I didn't scare you too badly. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 19 hours ago, eyeball said: Is Russia getting rid of their publicly funded broadcaster? I'm not aware of political parties anywhere else in the world promising to rid their countries of public broadcasters. Why is it only in Canada that you find this moral panic? Because Russia is paying people to tell us our media is corrupt. And because people hate the libs, they parrot the message... 1 1 1 Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 48 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: And because people hate the libs, they parrot the message... This just doesn't scan...I can't stand the Liberals either but that doesn't make me right wing stooge for a dictator. WTF is the matter with people these days? 1 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goddess Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 19 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: I am willing to bet that some prolific posters have been bought and paid for by the Kremlin, or are just to gullible to realise it. CdnFox, Nationalist, West, and WestCanMan just to name a few... 🙄 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 10 minutes ago, eyeball said: WTF is the matter with people these days? They weren't raised properly. 1 Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 3 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Huh? Ya def? fox Cnn nbc and many others have paid out more in compensation for bad stories than the entire amount we're talking here. You don't "buy' the media for a few million, if you could then every group out there would own them. Quote “Some news outlets are beholden to their marketing departments and major advertisers, some are beholden to the Kremlin. Same-same!”🙄 So i say special interests and you substitute that with 'their marketing department' 🙄 well i guess that's your way of admitting you were wrong Quote Absolutely they are, they are not under the control of a foreign enemy’s government Safe to say for a few million neither are the news outlets reported. They may be influenced but that's not the same as controlled. And again - others are in the same boat. China uses it's "spamoflage" teams to influence and trick the media and also online platforms. Others do similar things. It is the way of it. Quote At least Fox only indirectly shills for Putin by shilling for Donald Trump. Ahhh yes, the old leftist lie about "russian collusion". Trump is colluding with them you see. ANY DAY now the FBI will uncover that proof. Sigh. This is what costs you elections. Every hostlie country out there including iran, russia, china, korea, etc spends money trying to "influence" the elections. But just because china posts "I'm an american vet and i think harris is the best" doesnt' mean anyone's going to vote for harris, and just because russia manages to invest in a news org like fox dodesn't mean fox is going to give a rat's ass what their opinion is. And i believe Putin endorsed Harris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted September 12 Author Report Share Posted September 12 4 hours ago, Five of swords said: So what you are saying is that all you need is to control media to control people's opinions. No. 4 hours ago, Five of swords said: So...you support democracy? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five of swords Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 5 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: No. Yes. So...why would it matter if Russia controls our media? It isn't like they could sway public opinion on anything since everyone is so objective and logical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted September 12 Author Report Share Posted September 12 Just now, Five of swords said: So...why would it matter if Russia controls our media? It isn't like they could sway public opinion on anything since everyone is so objective and logical. Of course they can sway some of the public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 36 minutes ago, eyeball said: This just doesn't scan...I can't stand the Liberals either but that doesn't make me right wing stooge for a dictator. Why would you think that retarded propaganda targeting gullible right-wing fools was targeted at you? 8 minutes ago, CdnFox said: And i believe Putin endorsed Harris Yeah...and if you believe that was genuine, then you're one of the donkeys described above. I'll leave it to you to make your position clear on that. 😉 1 1 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five of swords Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 1 minute ago, TreeBeard said: Of course they can sway some of the public. I see. So either enough of a % that democracy is stupid, or an insufficient % for it to matter. And it certainly makes me wonder if you are okay with the people who control the media now. Is it just fine for people who hate Russia to control the media? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 4 minutes ago, Moonbox said: Why would you think that retarded propaganda targeting gullible right-wing fools was targeted at you? Because the right wing fools are the weapons being aimed at me. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted September 12 Author Report Share Posted September 12 8 minutes ago, Five of swords said: So either enough of a % that democracy is stupid, or an insufficient % for it to matter. I think enough of the electorate is susceptible to believing crazy conspiracy theories being spewed by rightwing commentators that it’s an issue. This forum is evidence of that. 9 minutes ago, Five of swords said: And it certainly makes me wonder if you are okay with the people who control the media now. Depends…. Some yes, some no. 10 minutes ago, Five of swords said: Is it just fine for people who hate Russia to control the media? You think all of the media (who aren’t paid for by Russia) hate Russia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 (edited) 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: Because Russia is paying people to tell us our media is corrupt. And because people hate the libs, they parrot the message... Our media is corrupt. When Trudeau pontificated to China "The Canadian Gov't doesn't interfere in the judicial process" it was Xinhua who pointed out the SNC-related hypocrisy of that statement, not CBC or CTV. Wion New pointed out Trudeau's hypocrisy about "The gov't meeting with peaceful protesters", not CBC or CTV. Our media is 3rd-rate garbage. @TreeBeard @eyeball @BeaverFever @Michael Hardner, etc 🤣 Gutless f'ing sheeple, weasels and cowards all. Edited September 12 by WestCanMan Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 45 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: I think enough of the electorate is susceptible to believing crazy conspiracy theories being spewed by rightwing commentators that it’s an issue. The electorate? THEY’RE EATING THE DOGS THEY’RE EATING THE CATS 1 1 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goddess Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 13 minutes ago, Moonbox said: The electorate? THEY’RE EATING THE DOGS THEY’RE EATING THE CATS "Fact-checkers" say that's not true. But X is full of videos of it today. From lots of different countries. "Don't believe your lying eyes". 2 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 3 minutes ago, Goddess said: But X is full of videos of it today. From lots of different countries. I saw it on the interwebs! 🤡🤡🤡 1 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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