impartialobserver Posted September 11 Report Share Posted September 11 Its always interesting how someone decides who wins a debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted September 11 Report Share Posted September 11 12 hours ago, West said: It helps when the moderators ask irrelevant nonsense about a policy he doesn't even endorse lol The question was what would do if republicans in congress brought the policy to him would he sign or not sign and he refused to answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted September 11 Report Share Posted September 11 10 hours ago, robosmith said: Too bad you have NO EVIDENCE of Harris nor Biden participating in those riots. LMAO The riots happened. Harris and Biden exist. Are we supposed to believe that’s a coincidence? That’s the most overwhelming evidence that’s ever existed in history. LMAO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted September 11 Report Share Posted September 11 7 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: The question was what would do if republicans in congress brought the policy to him would he sign or not sign and he refused to answer It's kind of a hypothetical question as the chances of it happening are slim. They'd need 60 senators to sign on which isn't going to happen any time soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted September 11 Report Share Posted September 11 (edited) 4 hours ago, Deluge said: Trump exaggerates; Harris flat-out lies, and the b*tch does it a lot. Sorry you have that backwards. Trump not only flat out lies he’s the most notorious liar in political history. It was one crazy batshit whopper after another from him last night including lies that doctors deliver live babies and then “execute” them, that immigrants are eating people’s dogs and cats, stole election lies and so on. Edited September 11 by BeaverFever 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted September 11 Report Share Posted September 11 4 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: Actually, it was people speaking at a city council meeting. No a MAGA idi0t posted it on facebook saying he heard from his friend who heard it from his neighbour who heard it from his daughter that the immigrants were eating people’s cats. And then Trump embellished it further by adding in dogs too. Soon MAGAs will be telling us they’re eating horses and babies. It’s the old unreliable “broken telephone” grapevine gossip that only low IQ people would give any attention or credibility to…what black people jokingly call the “nigganet”. But MAGAs eat that stuff up, they have their own white nigganet to spread their lies and dubious claims. Some do it because they’re simpletons who lack basic credulity and critical thinking skills, others are simply attracted to sensationalism, the more sensational a claim is they more they want to believe it’s true. Others are just cynics who want others people to believe their lies and support their agenda. Most MAGAs are probably a combination of the above 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted September 11 Report Share Posted September 11 5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: Ok, so based on our sample space of one, Haitians eat dog. But do they eat YOUR dog? The local police came out and said there was nothing to the story, probably to try and curb any redneck on Haitian violence. (You think a redneck can tell a Haitian immigrant apart from a 5th generation American of colour?) ”There’s one! String ‘im up, boys!” 27 minutes ago, West said: It's kind of a hypothetical question 😂 ummm…. Yeah? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted September 11 Report Share Posted September 11 40 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: But do they eat YOUR dog? No dogs at my place any more. Likely that we never had any but my memory is poor. What's that weird taste in my mouth? Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted September 11 Report Share Posted September 11 Presidential debate “Now with 50% Less Old Man”. LMAO 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodad Posted September 11 Report Share Posted September 11 (edited) 2 hours ago, Perspektiv said: It seemed like they were more activist, than moderators. They came prepared for his lies, yet didn't correct Harris on hers. This plays to Trump's base. It wasn't an impartial debate. He came unprepared for the debate. She was heavily prepared. Moderator or not, she would have defeated him. What they did, is provide him with cover, based on how biased they were acting. They should have let the candidates talk, and let her beat him fair and square allowing for nothing to interfere with her hollowing out his lifeless carcass that showed up at the debate. The moderators were more part of the debate than they should have been. I disagree. News channels (and debate moderators as an extension) have a social responsibility for their platforms. They give the people who appear on the networks a massive megaphone and the power to reach and influence millions of people. These organizations SHOULD be obligated to call out blatant misinformation. The moderators did a good and fair job. 1. The moderators didn't "fact check" proposals or opinions or characterizations or spin. 2. They didn't do it very much at all--maybe 4 or 5 times over the course of 90 minutes. 3. They stuck to VERY basic facts--a basic shared reality. ETA: They could have done a dozen more. Best economy ever? Nope. Highest inflation ever? Nope. Etc. Etc. -- They showed remarkable restraint, actually. Ex. Trump starts talking about post-birth "abortions" which is pure nonsense. Moderator gently steers back to reality: "There is no state in this country where it is legal to kill a baby after it’s born." ^^Does reminding the debaters--and the public--of this basic fact serve the public? Yes, it does. There really is no reason to let him lie to their audience. Edited September 11 by Hodad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted September 11 Report Share Posted September 11 2 hours ago, Deluge said: Trump exaggerates; Harris flat-out lies, and the b*tch does it a lot. “Windmills cause cancer” is not an exaggeration, it is a lie. “Immigrants eat pet dogs” is not an exaggeration, it is a lie. “Doctors legally murder babies after they’re born” is not an exaggeration, it is a lie. 1 3 Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted September 11 Report Share Posted September 11 1 hour ago, West said: It's kind of a hypothetical question as the chances of it happening are slim. They'd need 60 senators to sign on which isn't going to happen any time soon. So what? Its still shows where his thoughts and loyalties lie. We all know every president makes political compromises and supports or kills legislation that they would have personally preferred not to. He dodged the question. Besides, Republicans LOVE remote hypotheticals that statistically don’t even happen like genital reassignment surgery for minors or 9th month abortions of viable fetuses. Suddenly “BUT WHAT IF….” is all that matters. In the 2016 republican idi0t-off the primary contenders even discussed the hypothetical of whether they would go back in time and murder baby Hitler to prevent WW2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluge Posted September 11 Report Share Posted September 11 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Rebound said: “Windmills cause cancer” is not an exaggeration, it is a lie. “Immigrants eat pet dogs” is not an exaggeration, it is a lie. “Doctors legally murder babies after they’re born” is not an exaggeration, it is a lie. Windmills kick up dirt and debris and all kinds of shit on the ground - It's possible. Haitians are beyond poor they'll probably eat anything. In the deepest of blue shitholes, it's possible Dr's are not only doing it, but digging it. Edited September 11 by Deluge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodad Posted September 11 Report Share Posted September 11 2 hours ago, impartialobserver said: Its always interesting how someone decides who wins a debate. Remarkably similar to how some decide decide who wins an election. "Did Trump say he won? Okay, he won!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 11 Report Share Posted September 11 50 minutes ago, Hodad said: There really is no reason to let him lie to their audience Why not fact check Kamala? It looks bad on the moderators. She outright lied a couple times. Mislead at least a dozen, and fair play on them for not calling out the latter. But it makes the moderators look like they have an agenda. This is how the debate was going (for Kamala): I don't think she needed the help, and from my vantage point, that's what that looked like. I want to make myself clear. Am not saying they helped her, but the optics look like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaétan Posted September 11 Report Share Posted September 11 We have all seen that the moderator of the parent company of the CBC trolls was corrupt and that he attacked Trump when he was telling the pure truth. The Democrats are letting immigrants starve to death and Trump has said it's a disgrace to the country and he has again returned to the election rigging that the moderator sought to challenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodad Posted September 11 Report Share Posted September 11 3 hours ago, Perspektiv said: Why not fact check Kamala? It looks bad on the moderators. She outright lied a couple times. Mislead at least a dozen, and fair play on them for not calling out the latter. But it makes the moderators look like they have an agenda. This is how the debate was going (for Kamala): I don't think she needed the help, and from my vantage point, that's what that looked like. I want to make myself clear. Am not saying they helped her, but the optics look like that. I didn't catch her outright lying. I did see her mislead or decontextualize things on occasion (very fine people). But they really let all of that slide for both. They even let crazy numbers slide. I mean, obviously Trump didn't build the best economy ever and obviously the inflation under the Biden administration wasn't the worst in history. Etc. Etc. They let all of that slide or let the opponent worry about it. Frankly, I was disappointed that Harris didn't have some of those replies ready. I think she missed on a lot of stuff. But even considering that I share your view of the result. She worked circles around him. Really the only things they called out were the absurd statements of fiction made, immigrants eating pets, etc. I just don't think it's unreasonable for moderators to tell call out the occasional whopper. And I don't think Harris was making those kinds of crazy statements. Though you may recall something I don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted September 11 Report Share Posted September 11 4 hours ago, Rebound said: “Windmills cause cancer” is not an exaggeration, it is a lie. “Immigrants eat pet dogs” is not an exaggeration, it is a lie. “Doctors legally murder babies after they’re born” is not an exaggeration, it is a lie. No, sorry, the last two turned out to be true. Well... in fact it was only one immigrant that was actually accused of it, so the term immigrantS would presumably be a lie. Sort of. But otherwise true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted September 11 Report Share Posted September 11 10 minutes ago, CdnFox said: No, sorry, the last two turned out to be true. Well... in fact it was only one immigrant that was actually accused of it, so the term immigrantS would presumably be a lie. Sort of. But otherwise true. Except the pet-eating story was based on a mentally ill American woman eating a cat, so if you ignore the part where it was completely made up then year it was totally true. LOL, you dipshit. As for the abortion thing, that's also a lie as much as we all wish it was true in your case. Quote America...."the worlds largest, best-armed shopping mall."-Ivor Tossell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 17 hours ago, Perspektiv said: She also was helped by the moderators which very aggressively fact checked Trump, and took it easy on Kamala. Anyone with a brain will see he didn't have a chance to win this debate, from the onset. I don't think this affects the election, if he continues to aggressively do interviews and hits the campaign trail relentlessly. Also, his VP, will eat Walz for breakfast. Aha! So Vance is the Hannibal Lecter that Trump keeps ranting about. LMAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 14 hours ago, Perspektiv said: The danger of making a blanketed statement like he did, is its hard to prove. Unless you test feces of migrants who did so, you literally have no proof. You then give your opponent an easy way of picking you apart. Eating dog and cat meat in Haiti, isn't foreign, however. I was in the Philippines. Its not legal to do so, yet you can find hidden restaurants that openly do so. I was taken to one by a previous Filipina woman that I dated, as she convinced me dog meat tasted like beef. Not sure what I was thinking. The wet dog flavor that hit me as I bit into the meat (piercing through the sauce), and feeling the raised follicles of the shaved fur kicked my gag reflex hard. I spat it out in a napkin. Every single patron was wide eyed, as was likely the only foreigner to enter such a place. Trump isn't too bright. They will deny this until their last breath, even though all Haitians know this is a thing in Haiti. Watching the debate was brutal, she was fantastic at goading him and her smiling as he imploded was just hard to watch. How do "hidden" restaurants do ANYTHING "openly" ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 2 hours ago, Black Dog said: Except the pet-eating story was based on a mentally ill American woman eating a cat, so if you ignore the part where it was completely made up then year it was totally true. LOL, you dipshit. A mentally ill immigrant woman. So when he says that immigrants are coming up and eating pets that's not wrong. In at least one case that did happen. You must be the 'special stupid' to admit that it did happen and claim that's proof it didn't happen Quote As for the abortion thing, that's also a lie as much as we all wish it was true in your case. That one's been proven true 1000 times over now. It's simple fact. It's weird to watch the left hold on to crap like this when they know it's wrong. Like the 'blood in the streets if i lose' comment which they cling to like a drowning man holding on to driftwood when they know he said it about the auto industry. I guess if you don't have any LEGIT critisizims of trump you have to make crap up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 13 hours ago, Rebound said: “Aggressively”? Uh, go back and listen again. “I’d like to point out, sir, that it is not legal in any state to kill a baby after it’s delivered.” Who are the dolts who believe that doctors murder babies after they’re born? The dolts that don't understand the difference between withdrawing treatment for a fatally abnormal baby and actively killing it. That is the PARENT'S DECISION and RIGHT Quote Who makes the decision to withdraw treatment? Generally a health professional must follow a decision to withhold or withdraw treatment made: by a person who has capacity, in a valid Advance Care Directive (made when the person had capacity), or. by a person's substitute decision-maker. Withholding and withdrawing life-sustaining treatment Factsheet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 13 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: Actually, it was people speaking at a city council meeting. Was the video posted on FB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 1 minute ago, robosmith said: The dolts that don't understand the difference between withdrawing treatment for a fatally abnormal baby and actively killing it. That is the PARENT'S DECISION and RIGHT are you referring to the courts when you say 'dolts'? Because they have long held that a parent has a DUTY to provide the necessaries of life to infants and that neglecting a child and allowing it to die is murder. its murder in most civilized countries. So while you might THINK the court is wrong it IS in fact murder to allow a baby to die by deliberate inaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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