Gaétan Posted September 11 Report Share Posted September 11 Even if I were a Democrat I wouldn't believe that Kamala Harris won the debate, you really have to be paid to say that. What can we learn from what she said? Nothing. The only time Trump knowingly lied was when he said she was a Marxist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Posted September 11 Author Report Share Posted September 11 57 minutes ago, Perspektiv said: Eating dog and cat meat in Haiti, isn't foreign, There are a lot of places that have some tradition of eating dogs and cats. The absurd lie in question here is that Haitian immigrants are stealing peoples cats and dogs, based purely on a rumor someone posted on Facebook. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatomontes99 Posted September 11 Report Share Posted September 11 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Matthew said: There are a lot of places that have some tradition of eating dogs and cats. The absurd lie in question here is that Haitian immigrants are stealing peoples cats and dogs, based purely on a rumor someone posted on Facebook. Actually, it was people speaking at a city council meeting. Edited September 11 by gatomontes99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissy1979 Posted September 11 Report Share Posted September 11 6 hours ago, West said: 😆. Ask about January 6 but cut Trump off when he talks about getting shot in the head. Don't follow up on kamala lies about fracking Don't ask her about some of her more radical and absurd policies like price controls. Was a hit job on Trump yet again. It's almost like, once again, you guys are helpless victims. 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Posted September 11 Author Report Share Posted September 11 9 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Actually, it was people speaking at a city council meeting. Looks like we're both a bit off: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodad Posted September 11 Report Share Posted September 11 6 hours ago, Matthew said: Boo hoo...Trump was allowed to have an extra response beyond his allotted time and the last word on almost every question. And significantly more speaking time. Which, of course, he squandered. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted September 11 Report Share Posted September 11 1 hour ago, Gaétan said: Even if I were a Democrat I wouldn't believe that Kamala Harris won the debate, you really have to be paid to say that. What can we learn from what she said? Nothing. The only time Trump knowingly lied was when he said she was a Marxist He said that her father was a Marxist. And Trump’s father was a Klansman. Their fathers aren’t running for President. You’d think someone running for President wouldn’t stoop so low as to insult his opponent’s father, but the felon Trump’s mind has been in the gutter forever. 4 Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 11 Report Share Posted September 11 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: Ok, so based on our sample space of one, Haitians eat dog. No. It is something that does occur in Haiti, but isn't the norm. But eating cat, is also something that does occur. A dish called "tasso", is well known as made with goat or beef. But some, will make it with cat meat. Same as the Philippines, in that you're of the lowest denomination and education in eating this. Its not socially accepted. Its not like you're going to see McDognald's on every block, selling sausage dog burgers at a drive through. Where you look at your cat Fluffy, nervously when they inch towards the front door, knowing they are supper for whoever gets their hands on them, if they sneak out. It's nothing like that. You're dealing with the poorest, least educated, that are willing to eat such foods. Heck, they will even eat clay cookies. However, there is nothing to prove migrants were doing it. No point in mentioning it. Trump made a massive mistake in sinking to her probing. She showed him a debate master class. 1 hour ago, Rebound said: Who are the dolts who believe that doctors murder babies after they’re born? How many times did they cut off and fact check Kamala? He made incorrect statements, and so did she. They would have been wiser to hold the same standard, or risk looking biased. She was schooling him, and didn't even need the help, so that just plays into Trump's hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 11 Report Share Posted September 11 55 minutes ago, Matthew said: There are a lot of places that have some tradition of eating dogs and cats. The absurd lie in question here is that Haitian immigrants are stealing peoples cats and dogs, based purely on a rumor someone posted on Facebook. He passed a rumor as fact. Major mistake. She schooled him on it. Like I said before, if he is smart, he quickly dusts himself off and puts all his energy at cooking her on policy alone. If she is smart, she puts all her energy in building on that momentum, vs admiring her performance. This means tough hostile interviews, and hitting the campaign trail hard. Failure to do so, I guarantee you, has her suffer the same fate as Clinton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaétan Posted September 11 Report Share Posted September 11 Now that she has lost the debate, she wants another one right away 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUI_Offender Posted September 11 Report Share Posted September 11 1 hour ago, Gaétan said: Even if I were a Democrat I wouldn't believe that Kamala Harris won the debate, you really have to be paid to say that. What can we learn from what she said? Nothing. The only time Trump knowingly lied was when he said she was a Marxist Blocked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissy1979 Posted September 11 Report Share Posted September 11 31 minutes ago, Gaétan said: Now that she has lost the debate, she wants another one right away I wish I could construct an alternative reality to live in when this one is going poorly for me. How do you do it? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted September 11 Report Share Posted September 11 1 hour ago, Perspektiv said: No. It is something that does occur in Haiti, but isn't the norm. But eating cat, is also something that does occur. A dish called "tasso", is well known as made with goat or beef. But some, will make it with cat meat. Same as the Philippines, in that you're of the lowest denomination and education in eating this. Its not socially accepted. Its not like you're going to see McDognald's on every block, selling sausage dog burgers at a drive through. Where you look at your cat Fluffy, nervously when they inch towards the front door, knowing they are supper for whoever gets their hands on them, if they sneak out. It's nothing like that. You're dealing with the poorest, least educated, that are willing to eat such foods. Heck, they will even eat clay cookies. However, there is nothing to prove migrants were doing it. No point in mentioning it. Trump made a massive mistake in sinking to her probing. She showed him a debate master class. How many times did they cut off and fact check Kamala? He made incorrect statements, and so did she. They would have been wiser to hold the same standard, or risk looking biased. She was schooling him, and didn't even need the help, so that just plays into Trump's hands. Trump made MANY false statements. ABC fact-checked him three whole times, on statements which had nothing to do with the questions asked and which were extremely incorrect: * Trump’s ridiculous lie that doctors legally kill babies after they’re born. * Trump’s ridiculous lie that immigrants are eating pets. * Trump’s ridiculous lie that he won the 2020 election. ABC first asked him if his three recent comments stating that he lost the 2020 election are at last an admission that he lost. Trump first said he never said that, and ABC quoted him saying that he’d lost by a whisker. Trump said that he made that comment as a joke. Trump made plenty more lies than that. ABC just pointed out those which were objectively false without debate. It’s their network and they have an obligation to their viewers to present the truth, and the truth is that doctors do not deliver babies and then kill them, immigrants aren’t eating pets, and Trump lost the 2020 election. Let’s cut to the chase here: Donald Trump is a lying sick f*ck. If he had the right ideas and the best ideas for America, he wouldn’t need to lie about practically everything. 1 Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Posted September 11 Author Report Share Posted September 11 1 hour ago, Perspektiv said: He passed a rumor as fact. Major mistake. She schooled him on it. Like I said before, if he is smart, he quickly dusts himself off and puts all his energy at cooking her on policy alone. If she is smart, she puts all her energy in building on that momentum, vs admiring her performance. This means tough hostile interviews, and hitting the campaign trail hard. Failure to do so, I guarantee you, has her suffer the same fate as Clinton. That's a fair assessment. I agree. Though I don't think he's capable of a serious conversation about any policy issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Posted September 11 Author Report Share Posted September 11 1 hour ago, Perspektiv said: How many times did they cut off and fact check Kamala? The one time she tried to do what trump did every question-- making another response beyond his alotted 2 minutes-- they cut her off. They let trump make an add-on extra comment final word to almost every question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluge Posted September 11 Report Share Posted September 11 (edited) 11 hours ago, Matthew said: Harris argued circles around Trump. Made a clearer and more appealing message to American voters. Trump was on defense the entire time, rambled off topic, constantly looked nervous on the side-by-side. Harris argued circles around magical creatures in the land of woke believe. The b*tch mostly evaded the topics and couldn't stfu when Trump was speaking. Trump beat the shit out of Kamelface and he's not even a very good debater. Edited September 11 by Deluge 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted September 11 Report Share Posted September 11 7 hours ago, Perspektiv said: She also was helped by the moderators which very aggressively fact checked Trump, and took it easy on Kamala. Anyone with a brain will see he didn't have a chance to win this debate, from the onset. I don't think this affects the election, if he continues to aggressively do interviews and hits the campaign trail relentlessly. Also, his VP, will eat Walz for breakfast. It was twice right? He can't keep saying that Dems are for abortion after birth. I think the other one was the Haitians eating Dogs thing. I guess the moderators didn't need to point out what he was saying was crazy. So fair point. If you're blaming the moderators, you know you lost. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted September 11 Report Share Posted September 11 7 hours ago, Perspektiv said: She also was helped by the moderators which very aggressively fact checked Trump, and took it easy on Kamala. You mean they fact checked the guy who lied constantly and fact checked the person who didn't as much? wow. Huge if true. 2 Quote America...."the worlds largest, best-armed shopping mall."-Ivor Tossell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluge Posted September 11 Report Share Posted September 11 1 minute ago, Black Dog said: You mean they fact checked the guy who lied constantly and fact checked the person who didn't as much? wow. Huge if true. Trump exaggerates; Harris flat-out lies, and the b*tch does it a lot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted September 11 Report Share Posted September 11 12 minutes ago, Deluge said: Trump exaggerates; Harris flat-out lies, and the b*tch does it a lot. LOL you have a terminal case of shit-for-brains, just like that demented old fatass Trump. Quote America...."the worlds largest, best-armed shopping mall."-Ivor Tossell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CouchPotato Posted September 11 Report Share Posted September 11 I thought Kamala did really well during the first half of the debate, but towards the end I think Trump was pummeling her on things that really matter. Trump lacked discipline and looked really bad at times, but he also scored some big shots on the economy, the fact that she hasn't implemented any of her solutions in the past 3 1/2 years and on their weakness on the world stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 11 Report Share Posted September 11 16 minutes ago, Boges said: I guess the moderators didn't need to point out what he was saying was crazy. It seemed like they were more activist, than moderators. They came prepared for his lies, yet didn't correct Harris on hers. This plays to Trump's base. It wasn't an impartial debate. 18 minutes ago, Boges said: If you're blaming the moderators, you know you lost He came unprepared for the debate. She was heavily prepared. Moderator or not, she would have defeated him. What they did, is provide him with cover, based on how biased they were acting. They should have let the candidates talk, and let her beat him fair and square allowing for nothing to interfere with her hollowing out his lifeless carcass that showed up at the debate. The moderators were more part of the debate than they should have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Posted September 11 Author Report Share Posted September 11 2 minutes ago, CouchPotato said: towards the end I think Trump was pummeling her on things that really matter The second half of the debate trump was emotionally triggered after being repeatedly baited and was shouting nonsense. 5 minutes ago, CouchPotato said: the fact that she hasn't implemented any of her solutions No Vice President implements policies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluge Posted September 11 Report Share Posted September 11 29 minutes ago, Black Dog said: LOL you have a terminal case of shit-for-brains, just like that demented old fatass Trump. Says the braindead dog that thinks there are more sexes than it can count on its fingers and toes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CouchPotato Posted September 11 Report Share Posted September 11 18 minutes ago, Matthew said: The second half of the debate trump was emotionally triggered after being repeatedly baited and was shouting nonsense. I guess we saw something totally different here. I do think he was triggered during the first half and took the bait she set for him several times. That said, none of these things she baited him on were very important. The second half he was more composed and was able to score big points on things that mattered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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