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Spoiled rich boy from Apartheid South Africa.  Uses Canada as a stepping stone to obtain US citizenship.  Professional grifter, that has been granted over a billion dollars for the Government. 

Spreads misinformation about COVID, vaccines, election fraud, and gender idealogy.  Now agrees that Winston Churchill was the "real enemy" in WW2 that provoked comparatively "innocent" people like Adolf Hitler to srart war.

Is it time we banned twitter just like Brazil. Its lost neatly half its daily audience since 2022, but it is still a  effective propaganda platform for his far right agenda.

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1 hour ago, DUI_Offender said:

 

Is it time we banned twitter just like Brazil. Its lost neatly half its daily audience since 2022, but it is still a  effective propaganda platform for his far right agenda.

We used to grant LICENSES to media channels and held them to high standards of behaviour.

What happened ?

If you started your own TV network and just started sending disinfo and pictures of politicians dressed up like Stalin you wouldn't get on the air...

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33 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

What happened ?

What do you think of this take to explain what happened?

 

"There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe."

~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~

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33 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

We used to grant LICENSES to media channels and held them to high standards of behaviour.

What happened ?

If you started your own TV network and just started sending disinfo and pictures of politicians dressed up like Stalin you wouldn't get on the air...

From my understanding,  Reagan deregulated the industry in the mid 80s. Its not a coincidence that Rupert Murdock launched FOX TV around the same time

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5 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

I wouldn't be opposed to banning Twitter

since it's dominated by Woke Progressives

LOL.

Not sure if you have been on Twitter in the past year, but its increasingly resembles a far right echo chamber.

I mean if you are on Truth Social religiously, i suppose one can describe it as woke

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Ah yes... here we find the self-proclaimed "conservative" Michael favoring and advocating for more government regulations to shut down a free speech platform. 

 

On 9/5/2024 at 12:37 PM, DUI_Offender said:

Is it time we banned twitter just like Brazil. Its lost neatly half its daily audience since 2022, but it is still a  effective propaganda platform for his far right agenda.

You should actually practice what you preach and abandon this forum as it allows for far worse than Twitter does. 

I look forward to your leaving us with a parting message somewhere in the News and Announcements thread condemning this platform on your way out.  

LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... 

From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."

 

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On 9/5/2024 at 2:35 PM, DUI_Offender said:

LOL.

Not sure if you have been on Twitter in the past year, but its increasingly resembles a far right echo chamber.

I mean if you are on Truth Social religiously, i suppose one can describe it as woke

I have been using Twitter for many years now, before and after Musk purchased. 

It is about the same. 

The only big difference is a couple of things:

1. A bunch of cry baby liberals left in protest because Musk no longer censors all the big bad meanies on the right they don't like

2. Musk actually promotes and advocates for free speech principles and no longer censors all the big bad meanies on the right liberals don't like

 

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LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... 

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On 9/5/2024 at 12:37 PM, DUI_Offender said:

Its lost neatly half its daily audience since 2022

No, it is only down about 15% globally and 23% in America. 

 

LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... 

From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."

 

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2 hours ago, User said:

 

2. Musk actually promotes and advocates for free speech principles and no longer censors all the big bad meanies on the right liberals don't like

 

Except when autocratic leaders from India and Turkey ask him to censor speech in the leadup to their respective elections. 

I guess "free speech" does not apply to Elons friends. Lets not forget Elons critics, who found their accounts suspended for speaking out against Musk, only to be reinstated after a public outcry.

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2 hours ago, User said:

 

You should actually practice what you preach and abandon this forum as it allows for far worse than Twitter does. 

I look forward to your leaving us with a parting message somewhere in the News and Announcements thread condemning this platform on your way out.  

Exposing you for who you really are is too satisfying. 

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13 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Quite the contrast from the claims of Elon "Free Speech" Musk, 2ho spent 18 months telling anyone who would listen,  that Twitter usage had increased.

Usage is a very general term and can be measured in different ways. 

9 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Exposing you for who you really are is too satisfying. 

You are only exposing yourself as a hypocrite. 

LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... 

From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."

 

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12 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Except when autocratic leaders from India and Turkey ask him to censor speech in the leadup to their respective elections. 

I guess "free speech" does not apply to Elons friends. Lets not forget Elons critics, who found their accounts suspended for speaking out against Musk, only to be reinstated after a public outcry.

So, which is it? You complain there is not enough censorship and then claim there is censorship...

Also, he was not "asked" to do anything, he was legally compelled to. 

Elon has lots of critics, a handful of accounts get suspended and unsuspended... this crap happens all the time, no big conspiracy going on. 

LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... 

From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."

 

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1 hour ago, User said:

 

Also, he was not "asked" to do anything, he was legally compelled to.

Musk lives and resides in the United States. Turkey and India do not have legal jurisdiction to force Musk to do anything. 

1 hour ago, User said:

 

Elon has lots of critics, a handful of accounts get suspended and unsuspended... this crap happens all the time, no big conspiracy going on. 

Unless one claims to be a "free speech absolutionist," which makes him a hypocrite. 

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22 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Musk lives and resides in the United States. Turkey and India do not have legal jurisdiction to force Musk to do anything. 

Do you enjoy playing dumb like this or does it just come naturally to you?

 

LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... 

From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."

 

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1 hour ago, User said:

Do you enjoy playing dumb like this or does it just come naturally to you?

 

If the Turkish or Indian  incumbant asks Musk to block all dissenting accounts, of their respective regeime, Elon could have told them to go to hell, and been true to his "free speech abolitionist" claims, but just likr Trump, Musk is a professional grifter, who games the system.

 

Sometimes when i debate with you, i feel like i am scolding a teenager.

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Just now, DUI_Offender said:

If the Turkish or Indian  incumbant asks Musk to block all dissenting accounts, of their respective regeime, Elon could have told them to go to hell, and been true to his "free speech abolitionist" claims, but just likr Trump, Musk is a professional grifter, who games the system.

 

Sometimes when i debate with you, i feel like i am scolding a teenager.

OMG, you really are this dumb. 

These things are not requests, they are lawful obligations. These countries control the dissemination of information within their borders, X requires infrastructure to operate in these places that can be shut off and confiscated. 

 

LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... 

From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."

 

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3 minutes ago, User said:

OMG, you really are this dumb. 

These things are not requests, they are lawful obligations. These countries control the dissemination of information within their borders, X requires infrastructure to operate in these places that can be shut off and confiscated. 

 

They are requests.

I actually cannot believe i have to explain his to you, but here is a link that may be above your reading comprehension:

  https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/05/twitter-musk-censors-turkey-election-erdogan

These were requests, not legal obligations.  However, you lack the intelligence to differentiate one from another, so i may be wasting my time.

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13 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

They are requests.

I recommend you actually read the links you share next time:

“In response to legal process and to ensure Twitter remains available to the people of Turkey, we have taken action to restrict access to some content in Turkey today,”

LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... 

From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."

 

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42 minutes ago, User said:

I recommend you actually read the links you share next time:

“In response to legal process and to ensure Twitter remains available to the people of Turkey, we have taken action to restrict access to some content in Turkey today,”

As most people with a brain in their head have come to realise, that Elon Musk lies all the time to fit his agenda. If he really was a free speech "abolitionist,"  he would have told Turkey and India to f**k themselves.  It's too bad you believe everything a entitled billionaire tells you. If Elon Musk asked you to rim his arse, would you?

 

Answer me this: why did Musk only do this for one political party? If Trudeau asked Musk to censor everything the Conservative Party of Canada, and their supporters tweeted, would you be OK with that too?

 

 

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31 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

As most people with a brain in their head have come to realise, that Elon Musk lies all the time to fit his agenda.

Yet again, this is not something Musk said... these are documented acts of the Government of Turkey. They forced twitter to censor through the law, it was not a request. 

You have to be one of the most obtuse posters on here for having no care at all about facts or honest discussion. 

32 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

If he really was a free speech "abolitionist,"  he would have told Turkey and India to f**k themselves.  It's too bad you believe everything a entitled billionaire tells you. If Elon Musk asked you to rim his arse, would you?

Has nothing to do with believing him, unlike you, I can read and do based searches of the news and current events. 

33 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Answer me this: why did Musk only do this for one political party? If Trudeau asked Musk to censor everything the Conservative Party of Canada, and their supporters tweeted, would you be OK with that too?

He did what the law compelled him to do in those places. It was not a choice. 

You are still too stupid or too dishonest to stop framing this as merely being asked to do something. 

 

LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... 

From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."

 

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35 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Oh look!

Elon did the same thin in India too. Some "free speech abolitionist" he is!

Oh look! You are still too dumb or too dishonest to understand that India passed laws compelling them to do these things... 

LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... 

From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."

 

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