Canadian Gov Brainwashed You

[gatomontes99]

Those aren't my words, that is what they admit they did:

Canadian military leaders saw the pandemic as a unique opportunity to test out propaganda techniques on an unsuspecting public, a newly released Canadian Forces report concludes.

The federal government never asked for the so-called information operations campaign, nor did cabinet authorize the initiative developed during the COVID-19 pandemic by the Canadian Joint Operations Command, then headed by Lt.-Gen. Mike Rouleau.

Edited September 4 by gatomontes99

[Guest]

59 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Those aren't my words, that is what they admit they did

That's precisely why so many people stopped caring.

When you push people to far  you tend to get apathetic people at a certain point.

My wife got covid recently enough, and was worried for me, and I just didn't care. 

She was willing to mask up at home, to where I mentioned how awkward kissing through a mask is. To me the thought of a significant other masking up in your own home, is ridiculous. I get sick, I get sick.

I just don't care if I catch it, my mental health took a nosedive.  

Most Canadians caught on quickly, and didn't need a report to poke holes in the hypocritical government.

[Michael Hardner]

It says right in the post that the government did not ask for this, disproving the subject line. 

 

Then the usual subject posts in response, falling for it, and giving yet another story about his wife. 

 

Sigh.

[ExFlyer]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

It says right in the post that the government did not ask for this, disproving the subject line. 

 

Then the usual subject posts in response, falling for it, and giving yet another story about his wife. 

 

Sigh.

The Military makes plans every day for any number of events real and imagined. There are a variety of plans for every event.

They do this to be in some state of preparedness. It is what they have to do.

Normal every day operations. The next day, a new set of plans LOL

Edited September 4 by ExFlyer

[eyeball]

4 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

My wife got covid recently enough, and was worried for me, and I just didn't care. 

I'd say she's wiser than you are about this.

As COVID Surges, the High Price of Viral Denial

Yesterday the Tyee

Canada’s health system reels as by one estimate 1,000 die weekly. Each infection carries serious risks. Where’s the prevention?

“For the longest time we’ve told people that if you get an illness and you recover, it just makes you stronger. What we’re seeing over and over again is that’s not the case with COVID. Every time you get a COVID infection, your immune system seems to suffer.

“It’s kind of like a boxer, every fight takes a little bit more out of them. And they’re not getting stronger with every fight, they’re not getting stronger with every hit that they take. Every single time there’s an increased chance that something bad is going to happen to the immune system and I think that this influx of illness that we’re seeing is related to that.”

https://thetyee.ca/Analysis/2024/09/03/COVID-Surge-High-Price-Viral-Denial/

 

[Goddess]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

I'd say she's wiser than you are about this.

As COVID Surges, the High Price of Viral Denial

Yesterday the Tyee

Canada’s health system reels as by one estimate 1,000 die weekly. Each infection carries serious risks. Where’s the prevention?

“For the longest time we’ve told people that if you get an illness and you recover, it just makes you stronger. What we’re seeing over and over again is that’s not the case with COVID. Every time you get a COVID infection, your immune system seems to suffer.

“It’s kind of like a boxer, every fight takes a little bit more out of them. And they’re not getting stronger with every fight, they’re not getting stronger with every hit that they take. Every single time there’s an increased chance that something bad is going to happen to the immune system and I think that this influx of illness that we’re seeing is related to that.”

https://thetyee.ca/Analysis/2024/09/03/COVID-Surge-High-Price-Viral-Denial/

 

I just read that study.  At least they're finally admitting the blood clots, haha 🙄

This part has been known for quite awhile.  In fact when I posted the actual studies about it, you mocked them.

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the spike protein of the virus can bind with a blood protein, fibrin, setting off a chain of blood clots resulting in chronic inflammation and brain damage. Fibrin can actually form a mesh impeding blood flow in arteries to multiple organs in the body.

The spike produced by having the infection is short-lived.

In numerous studies, the spike produced by the shots is still producing spike up to a year later.

If the spike does this - causes blood clots, etc - and the shots produce spike for longer periods of time than having the infection and people are injecting new spike into their bodies several times a year......you see where this is going?

Right where thousands of doctors and scientists warned it would go. 😬

[Dougie93]

7 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

It says right in the post that the government did not ask for this, disproving the subject line. 

 

Then the usual subject posts in response, falling for it, and giving yet another story about his wife. 

 

Sigh.

it all harkens back to Marshall McLuhan

when he predicted that the Third World War would not a be nuclear war, but rather an information war

in 1970

 

[Michael Hardner]

6 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

it all harkens back to Marshall McLuhan

when he predicted that the Third World War would not a be nuclear war, but rather an information war

in 1970

 

I'm a big fan of his work.

[eyeball]

42 minutes ago, Goddess said:

  In fact when I posted the actual studies about it, you mocked them.

I'm quite certain if I did it was to mock you using them as an excuse for doing nothing, especially eschewing vaccine and letting COVID rip.

How often did you also advise that being infected conferred better protection than vaccination? That's probably the most tragic advice of all.

This is a ringing endorsement for ongoing vaccination as well as accelerating research and development of more even more effective vaccines

42 minutes ago, Goddess said:

The spike produced by having the infection is short-lived.

The article says the opposite.

“There is no such thing as a SARS-CoV-2 infection that does NOT have prolonged consequences.”

42 minutes ago, Goddess said:

In numerous studies, the spike produced by the shots is still producing spike up to a year later.

If the spike does this - causes blood clots, etc - and the shots produce spike for longer periods of time than having the infection and people are injecting new spike into their bodies several times a year......you see where this is going?

The big If ... your favourite qualifier...in any case vaccine side effects go nowhere near as far as infection are taking far greater numbers of people. Some 400 million around the world now suffering long COVID as a result of repeated infections.

42 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Right where thousands of doctors and scientists warned it would go. 

A drop in the bucket compared to the millions who clearly think otherwise.

Edited September 4 by eyeball

[Dougie93]

8 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I'm a big fan of his work.

it's uncanny how accurate the prediction was, considering that the internet had not yet been invented

"a guerrilla information war with no distinction between military & civilian"

that is the war that we are in the throes of, worldwide

the conventional wars in Ukraine or Gaza, those are actually the sideshows

[Michael Hardner]

10 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

it's uncanny how accurate the prediction was, considering that the internet had not yet been invented

"a guerrilla information war with no distinction between military & civilian"

that is the war that we are in the throes of, worldwide

the conventional wars in Ukraine or Gaza, those are actually the sideshows

He knew what computers would do.

[Dougie93]

4 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

He knew what computers would do.

but even more prescient, he knew what governments would do when they lost control of information

[Goddess]

26 minutes ago, eyeball said:

as an excuse for doing nothing, especially eschewing vaccine and letting COVID rip.

This is a lie.  From the start, I advocated for the Great Barrington Declaration. The thousands of doctors and scientists who authored it were accused by Fauci (in his famous words, a "devastating takedown" of the Declaration) of wanting to let it rip.  You bought into the lies, like usual. And you keep repeating them despite being shown that they are lies.

Since then, the majority of scientists now see that following the advice in the Declaration would have been far better.

26 minutes ago, eyeball said:

1 hour ago, Goddess said:

The spike produced by having the infection is short-lived.

The study and article says the opposite.

“There is no such thing as a SARS-CoV-2 infection that does NOT have prolonged consequences.”

That's not what it is saying at all.  We're talking about the SPIKE here.  Numerous studies have shown that the body does NOT continuously produce spike after having the infection.  Numerous studies have shown that spike production from the injections DOES go on indefinitely.

You have to take this information and add it to other studies because this study does not incorporate information from other studies.  Use your brain.  

26 minutes ago, eyeball said:

The big If ... your favourite qualifier

I assume since you posted the study, that you accept its' findings that the spike binding with fibrin is causing clots and thrombo issues, yes?  The "IF" in this case is mostly surprise that you accept this now.  I've posted many studies that show this and you've consistently rejected ALL of them. 

26 minutes ago, eyeball said:

in any case vaccine side effects go nowhere near as far as infection are taking far greater numbers of people.

You have no proof of that.  In fact, if you accept this study that the infection-induced spike binding with fibrin causes these issues, then you have to accept that the vax-induced spike does that exact same thing.  Are you rejecting that idea?

Than you will have to produce evidence that the infection induced spike and the vax-induced spike are completely different and have different mechanisms.

26 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Some 400 million around the world now suffering long COVID as a result of repeated infections.  injections.

Fixed it for ya.

Again - your claim is that the infection-induced spike causes issues, but that the vax-induced spike does not.

1.  That is not what this study's methodolgy focus was for determining or comparing. Not even a hint of that.

2. You need to provide evidence of the above claim.

 

Edited September 4 by Goddess

[Moonlight Graham]

6 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

The Military makes plans every day for any number of events real and imagined. There are a variety of plans for every event.

They do this to be in some state of preparedness. It is what they have to do.

Normal every day operations. The next day, a new set of plans LOL

It wasn't just about "making plans".  The military said it was an opportunity to test the techniques on the public.  

[eyeball]

25 minutes ago, Goddess said:

You have no proof of that.  In fact, if you accept this study that the infection-induced spike binding with fibrin causes these issues, then you have to accept that the vax-induced spike does that exact same thing.  Are you rejecting that idea?

No, just that it's a drop in the bucket compared to the reason for maintaining a robust vaccination program and other measures aimed at better preventing the spread of disease.

25 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Again - your claim is that the infection-induced spike causes issues, but that the vax-induced spike does not.

No, I'm interpreting the article as saying the results of being infected are far far worse than the rare occasional side effects of vaccine.

You OTOH persist in blaming the vaccine for the infection and everything, including now the 400 million cases of long COVID reported world wide.

As always you have the far greater burden of proof.

Edited September 4 by eyeball

[ExFlyer]

4 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

It wasn't just about "making plans".  The military said it was an opportunity to test the techniques on the public.  

These plans are always being developed, for all sorts of potential incidents.

It even talks about potential BLM  events.

" Gen. Jon Vance shut down the CJOC propaganda initiative after a number of his advisers questioned the legality and ethics behind the plan." so was shut down before it even began.

[Goddess]

5 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No, I'm interpreting the article as saying the results of being infected are far far worse than the rare occasional side effects of vaccine.

Well, if that's your interpretation, then you are incorrect.  That's not what this study is saying at all.  It is not comparing the two.

6 minutes ago, eyeball said:

As always you have the far greater burden of proof.

Haha, NOPE.  That's not the way this works.

You want everybody - babies included - jabbed endlessly with an experimental genetic injection that doesn't stop infection or transmission and (according to the study you just posted) the spike in it causes clots and thrombo issues.

The onus is on YOU to prove.

[Moonlight Graham]

12 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

These plans are always being developed, for all sorts of potential incidents.

Oh?  Plans to indoctrinate Canadians with propaganda in order to influence their thinking and behavior without their knowledge are always being made?  Do tell!  LOL

[ExFlyer]

19 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Oh?  Plans to indoctrinate Canadians with propaganda in order to influence their thinking and beha without their knowledge are always being made?  Do tell!  LOL

Look, be realistic.

The Military having "propaganda" plans is no different that political leaders or parties or governments having propaganda plans.

Call it propaganda or misinformation or disinformation or hype or even advertisements to influence people and it goes on all the time.

Being outraged is being naive.

[Guest]

9 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

yet another story about his wife.

Am sorry you life has made you miserable. If there is anything I can do to help, please advise.

[CdnFox]

9 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

It says right in the post that the government did not ask for this, disproving the subject line. 

 

Then the usual subject posts in response, falling for it, and giving yet another story about his wife. 

 

Sigh.

They didn't stop it either, and they are responsible for the actions of the military. So the headline is still accurate. 

Double Sigh, 

[Guest]

22 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

They didn't stop it either, and they are responsible for the actions of the military.

Why stop something if its working?

Once it no longer was, there no longer was a need to use such tactics and fear mongering.

[CdnFox]

24 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

Why stop something if its working?

Indeed but that does lend a little bit of complicity to it  

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Once it no longer was, there no longer was a need to use such tactics and fear mongering.

Other than for the election  

 

[WestCanMan]

On 9/4/2024 at 5:24 AM, Michael Hardner said:

It says right in the post that the government did not ask for this, disproving the subject line. 

 

Then the usual subject posts in response, falling for it, and giving yet another story about his wife. 

 

Sigh.

How much control does our military have over the CBC's false narratives? FB? Twitter (back when it was in TNI)? Global? CTV? 🤣

Gimme a break. Justin is in total control of everything that comes from the CBC, aside from what TNI tells them.