The return of capital punishment is badly needed in Canada

[DUI_Offender]

lol @ using the bible as a reference.

 

Canada iis a secular country, and has always separated the church from the state.

[blackbird]

2 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

lol @ using the bible as a reference.

 

Canada iis a secular country, and has always separated the church from the state.

While Canada is a secular country in the sense the government does not have a state religion or support a particular religion, the government has through history adopted many of its laws based on Judeo-Christian civilization.

Individual members of Parliament and government hold personal beliefs which they use to guide them in their governing.   That is the way it always has been.

[blackbird]

8 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Canada iis a secular country,

The state is not governed by any particular religion, but every MP holds beliefs be it some religious belief system or some other ism or ideology such as liberalism or Socialism.

God is recognized as part of our system of government

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The preamble to the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms is the introductory sentence to the Constitution of Canada's Charter of Rights and Constitution Act, 1982. In full, it reads, "Whereas Canada is founded upon principles that recognize the supremacy of God and the rule of law"   unquote

This statement does not elaborate on what it means or which God it is referring to.

[blackbird]

Under liberal rule Canada has a soft-on-crime government that allows dangerous offenders and people who are mentally ill and a danger to society to go free.  This resulted in another man being stabbed to death and a second man had his hand cut off by a mentally ill person who had sixty encounters with police.  This happened in downtown Vancouver a couple days ago.  In spite of all the flowery words from the government ministers, they are doing nothing about it.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

Under liberal rule Canada has a soft-on-crime government that allows dangerous offenders and people who are mentally ill and a danger to society to go free.  This resulted in another man being stabbed to death and a second man had his hand cut off by a mentally ill person who had sixty encounters with police.  This happened in downtown Vancouver a couple days ago.  In spite of all the flowery words from the government ministers, they are doing nothing about it.

True. And if it was one story it could be dismissed but we've seen dozens and dozens like it in the last year. And not just civvies, we've seen cops killed by violent offenders "on parole". 

[herbie]

LOL at another pro-lifer calling for the return of capital punishment.

How unusual.

Goddam Grampa's generation was 'too progressive' for you, eh?

[blackbird]

Very sad that you cannot see the difference between killing innocent babies and cold-blooded first degree murderers who deserve capital punishment.  You have more sympathy for murderers than innocent people.  Twisted.

[CDN1]

On 9/3/2024 at 11:10 PM, DUI_Offender said:

The Canadian homicide rate is 3 times lower than the American rate, in spite of America having the death penalty.

Not really that impressive considering the larger Black population they have, who are responsible for the majority of those murders at obscene rates.

Give it time. We are on our way to Minnesota. 10% Black population who accounts for 70% of the state's annual murders and over 90% of urban gun crime.

Canadian suburbs are not prepared for what's coming. Expect a huge rise in armed carjackings and home invasions, as we've seen in Ontario already.

 

Edited September 8 by CDN1

[herbie]

12 hours ago, blackbird said:

Very sad that you cannot see the difference between killing innocent babies and cold-blooded first degree murderers who deserve capital punishment.  You have more sympathy for murderers than innocent people.  Twisted

Not seeing the difference between killing people and terminating a pregnancy is what's twisted. Especially when the former is specifically outlawed in the Holy Book you claim to live by.
Claim to live the way of Jesus, act like Hammurabi

[DUI_Offender]

7 hours ago, CDN1 said:

Not really that impressive considering the larger Black population they have, who are responsible for the majority of those murders at obscene rates.

Give it time. We are on our way to Minnesota. 10% Black population who accounts for 70% of the state's annual murders and over 90% of urban gun crime.

Canadian suburbs are not prepared for what's coming. Expect a huge rise in armed carjackings and home invasions, as we've seen in Ontario already.

 

That's very strange.

The majority of the Black population of Canada lives in the GTA, and it has less violent crime than any Western Canadian city. How do you explain this?

[CdnFox]

10 minutes ago, herbie said:

Not seeing the difference between killing people and terminating a pregnancy is what's twisted. 

No, in this case he's right and you're wrong entirely. I was going to stay out of it but this is just rediculous. 

There is an obvious and demonstrable difference between killing a person because they have committed a crime so aggregious that they cannot be tolerated to be part of society any further and also to discourage others from committing crimes like that AFTER a fair trial and legal remedy to ensure their guilt,  and killing an innocent person who has committed no crime other than to exist. 

It's dumb. Even  YOU aren't that dumb. Stop it. 

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, DUI_Offender said:

That's very strange.

The majority of the Black population of Canada lives in the GTA, and it has less violent crime than any Western Canadian city. How do you explain this?

There just aren't that many blacks overall as a percentage of the total population. 

But - among blacks the violence is VASTLY higher. Crime rates and violence are both up. 

For example, Black Torontonians are four times more likely to be charged with a crime than their white counterparts, while one in 15 young Black men in Ontario have been incarcerated, compared to one in 70 young white men.

More homicides, fewer supports in Toronto's predominantly Black neighbourhoods: U of T research | University of Toronto (utoronto.ca)

Black communities plagued by high number of homicides, low support for loved ones, data shows

Black communities plagued by high number of homicides, low support for loved ones, data shows | CBC News

According to one estimate, young Black men in Toronto are five times more likely to be victims of homicidal violence than the majority population

Three Decades of Epidemic Black Gun Homicide Victimization in Toronto: Analyzing Causes and Consequences of a Criminological Approach | Semantic Scholar

 

So if you only look at the black communities in population, the violence and crime levels are astronomically higher.

[DUI_Offender]

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

There just aren't that many blacks overall as a percentage of the total population. 

Blacks represent just under 5% of the Canadian population.

Of interest, Indigenous Canadians are eight times more likely to be incarcerated than the overall population. Natives make up about 5% of Canada's population. Combine them, and compared to the Black population of the United States (12%), there is not that much difference.

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

But - among blacks the violence is VASTLY higher. Crime rates and violence are both up. 

Still lower than Calgary, Vancouver, Edmonton, Winnipeg, Hamilton, Kitchener, etc. Toronto is actually one of the safest cities in North America. 

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

So if you only look at the black communities in population, the violence and crime levels are astronomically higher.

The Indigenous population are twice as likely to be charged with violent crime than Black Canadians. It's well known in Western Canada that there is a strong correlation between violent crime rate, and the size of a city's Indigenous population.

Just look at Winnipeg, Saskatoon, Regina, Thunder Bay, and Edmonton. They all have very large Native communities, and they all are considered among the most violent cities in Canada.  

Edited September 9 by DUI_Offender

[CdnFox]

8 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

Blacks represent just under 5% of the Canadian population.

Exactly.'  A very small precent. 

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Of interest, Indigenous Canadians are eight times more likely to be incarcerated than the overall population. Natives make up about 5% of Canada's population. Combine them, and compared to the Black population of the United States (12%), there is not that much difference.

Well you just jumped from "violence" to 'Commit crime".   And sorry but you can't just "Combine" populations and then compare them to other populations elsewhere   LOLOL  Lets try to keep this at least semi reasonable  

 

 

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Still lower than Calgary, Vancouver, Edmonton, Winnipeg, Hamilton, Kitchener, etc. Toronto is actually one of the safest cities in North America. 

It's number 9 i believe on the list.  Not sure what the point is. 

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The Indigenous population are twice as likely to be charged with violent crime than Black Canadians.

Then they're committing more violent crimes. Again - so  what?

Are you trying to claim there's no difference between black canadians and first nations? because there is. 

You made a specific comment about the black community.  I addressed that very specifically and provided proof.  

This isn't going to be yet another case where you don't like the facts so you just run around like a chicken with your head cut off trying to find away around the very simple facts that have already been proved is it? 

[DUI_Offender]

6 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Exactly.'  A very small precent. 

Well you just jumped from "violence" to 'Commit crime".   And sorry but you can't just "Combine" populations and then compare them to other populations elsewhere   LOLOL  Lets try to keep this at least semi reasonable  

 

 

It's number 9 i believe on the list.  Not sure what the point is. 

Then they're committing more violent crimes. Again - so  what?

Are you trying to claim there's no difference between black canadians and first nations? because there is. 

You made a specific comment about the black community.  I addressed that very specifically and provided proof.  

This isn't going to be yet another case where you don't like the facts so you just run around like a chicken with your head cut off trying to find away around the very simple facts that have already been proved is it? 

God, you are insufferable.  Your Russian handlers need to do better.

Edited September 9 by DUI_Offender

[Chrissy1979]

People who believe in limited government want to give the state power to kill its citizens?

Maybe they don't really believe in limited government at all. 

[SkyHigh]

On 9/3/2024 at 11:12 PM, blackbird said:

Almost every day we hear of horrendous murders being committed in Canada.  If the offenders are caught, they know they will be sentenced to a certain number of years.  They also know they may only serve half of their sentence and then get out on parole.  This is not protecting Canadians.  This also makes victims of the relatives who must constantly live with what was done to their loved one as they see the offender get off relatively lightly and then walk free.  They often are required to re-live the horror because they must go to parole board hearings, sometimes, repeatedly and hear the whole thing over and over.

We need the return of capital punishment for first degree murder.  The situation is out of control and there is no fear of the consequences.

Canada needs to put the safety of the public ahead of everything else and stop trying to invent some kind of rights for criminals and forget the victims.

Also the justice system should be greatly speeded up to get the trials done expeditiously.

Oh , I thought you were pro-life.

 

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

God, you are insufferable.  Your Russian handlers need to do better.

LOL   and once again you're wrong and once again it's my fault    Go look at your responses and mine, at this point you should be COMPLETELY embarrassed that  you're freaking out and throwing a tantrum jus because i CORRECTLY pointed out some simple facts!

Oh and 'russian'?   LOL  why russian?  is it your argument that the violence in the black communities is a result of russian interference now or did you get confused and think we were talking about black trump? LOLOLOL!!!  

[blackbird]

4 hours ago, SkyHigh said:

Oh , I thought you were pro-life.

 

I am pro life for pre-born babies.  But first degree murderers are not the same thing.  It appears you don't understand the difference between capital punishment for first degree murder and killing innocent babies.

[DUI_Offender]

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

LOL   and once again you're wrong and once again it's my fault    Go look at your responses and mine, at this point you should be COMPLETELY embarrassed that  you're freaking out and throwing a tantrum jus because i CORRECTLY pointed out some simple facts!

Oh and 'russian'?   LOL  why russian?  is it your argument that the violence in the black communities is a result of russian interference now or did you get confused and think we were talking about black trump? LOLOLOL!!!  

You are in the Kremlin's back pocket, just like your wing-man WestKremlinMan.

Your name should be "ComradeFox."

[CdnFox]

39 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

You are in the Kremlin's back pocket, just like your wing-man WestKremlinMan.

 

Me and westcan fight about russia/ukraine.  We're on opposite sides of that one.  I've been pretty direct with regards to that more than once, i think putin is 100 percent in the wrong, i think the war benefits us for various reasons, i think the invasion was unjustified. 

LOLOL - you didn't bother to look did you    You just assumed for some reason i'm  "In the Kremlin's pocket".  ROFLMAO!!!

Wow kid you sure don't miss very many chances to look like an uneducated conspiracy loon with delusions of competence do you   Good lord, even the village !diot where you live  must look down on you  

Edited September 9 by CdnFox

[DUI_Offender]

26 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Me and westcan fight about russia/ukraine.  We're on opposite sides of that one.  I've been pretty direct with regards to that more than once, i think putin is 100 percent in the wrong, i think the war benefits us for various reasons, i think the invasion was unjustified. 

LOLOL - you didn't bother to look did you    You just assumed for some reason i'm  "In the Kremlin's pocket".  ROFLMAO!!!

Wow kid you sure don't miss very many chances to look like an uneducated conspiracy loon with delusions of competence do you   Good lord, even the village !diot where you live  must look down on you  

You two lovebirds should just elope, and ride out into the sunset. 

[CdnFox]

44 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

You two lovebirds should just elope, and ride out into the sunset. 

LOL - ohhhh rriiiiiggghhhtt, i forgot about your weird sexual fantasies about that.  

I love that you're tying putin into your fantasies now - seems like something you'd be into.  

[herbie]

They enjoy taunting the prisoner with 'we're gonna kill you any day now' for like, 34 f*cking years and claiming that's not cruel and unusual punishment. Holding mentally challenged 13 year olds until they're old enough to kill and insisting mental illness is 'just an excuse'. Inventing new methods claiming they're forms of more "humane" murder.

Few other groups can be pigeonholed and generalized than those who think reverting to barbarism is better than social progress.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

They enjoy taunting the prisoner with 'we're gonna kill you any day now' for like, 34 f*cking years and claiming that's not cruel and unusual punishment. Holding mentally challenged 13 year olds until they're old enough to kill and insisting mental illness is 'just an excuse'. Inventing new methods claiming they're forms of more "humane" murder.

Few other groups can be pigeonholed and generalized than those who think reverting to barbarism is better than social progress.

?????????? Blacks?!?! 

What the hell are you talking about?